Post by mattRGM in That's not my Neighbor comments

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I can't believe i came to this page to find a bunch of people suddenly bashing Nacho Sama and requesting refunds because... there's a steam version available now? The game cost like $3 and you still have a fully playable game that will remain the game you got into and love.

The steam version is a separate version with changes from the original. Available as a separate purchase so you can play the new version or the one you already enjoy.

For $3. This isn't a AAA big studio $70 title, it's barely a coffee. Relax. Buy the steam version and try a slightly different version, or load up your itch copy and play the game you love. You have what you paid for what is y'alls problem?

polocatfan17 days ago(-1)

For context, Nacho offered refunds, then went back on it.

mattRGM17 days ago(+1)(-3)

they did not go back on it intentionally if you paid any attention to what they've been doing. Itch will not approve his refund requests if they are over 90 days old.

I don't know about you, but I *never* saw an offer to refund just because it went to steam until people started complaining they didn't have the steam version here. I can't imagine how much this guy has stressed himself out over people by the hundreds hounding him over $3 when they have the option to play two fully developed games for a grand total of $6. Seriously, anyone complaining they need a refund or bashing on the creator for this need to touch some grass and live in reality again.

TheGamingMan73417 days ago(+2)(-2)

Why not just release the steam version on itch.io for itch.io users to download. People keep saying "but its only $3". That applies both ways. If its only $3 why is the developer simply not updating the itch version. Itch people were promised free updates if they buy the game yet are no longer receiving these free upates? It doesnt make much sense to me. This whole situation wouldnt be an issue if the update to the game was given to itch users aswell as released on steam.

mattRGM17 days ago (1 edit) (+1)

Please, tell me more about you feel paying someone pennies for their time spent developing something you can enjoy for hours is wrong

Again. This isn't some corporation with a team. It's one guy doing what he can with what he understands about the policies of each of the store and made some hiccups. Treating his game like it isn't worth the price you paid is garbage behavior. You have a fully playable game on itch. And another version on steam. This isn't even the first game to release varying versions across stores?

TheGamingMan73416 days ago (2 edits) (+1)(-1)

you still are avoiding the important point of. Why didn't he simply release the steam version on itch.io. nacho comes off as disingenuous simply because he claims he wanted to give the steam release to all itch.io players for free but couldn't due to limited keys. If that's true and he does want to give the game from. Why not just upload it to itch for itch players. He's contradicting himself. If he wants that extra $3 just say "I think the steam release has enough to warrant another $3". Like...be honest with the fans. Even more so the itch.io fans.

Literally buckshot roulette gave itch.io a free update on steam release. This scenario is no different.

There's no "understanding policies" when a very clear and easy solution is to either tell everyone outright "Ok I lied. I don't want to give the game out for free and was cockblocked by steam. I just think it has enough to warrant a re-purchase". Again him being blocked by steam simply makes no sense when the alternative solution is to simply update the itch.io version to what we see on steam.

Nacho Sama16 days ago (1 edit) (+2)

I have been honest with everybody, the game on steam is other game, it is not an update, it is a remake of the game. So because it is a new game I can not put it here as an update since that will violate the policies and conditions of steam.

Buckshot roulette publish the same game, that is the difference. But people still think that the game on steam was an update even when I said a bunch of times that it is a remake/reboot.

TheGamingMan73414 days ago

it's still the same guy my guy. I know you likely made it again byc scratch which is a lot of work. You can't claim it's completely new though when it's not. You've reused literally all the same art assets. The game is still 95% the same minus the additions. The additions would have been an update. You can convince yourself it's a remake/reboot as much as you want. It's an update that you remade.

I'm a 3d artist. If someone wanted to pay me £100 for a 3D model but I redid it 3 times. I'm not going to charge them £300. I'm going to charge them for the final product. You can fool who you want but as a developer the steam release is an update.

Staby/Mike14 days ago

I think people are having issues because before you have talked about a steam version and how you would give it to people "free of cost," because of that whether the steam game is a remake or not doesn't matter to the majority. Which sucks but sometimes things end like that people are gonna complain about one thing or another