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You're way off. Otome games just need a female-identifying protagonist (she/her or she/they), including customizable ones—end of story. Check out the Otome Jam 2024 page if you need a reality check.

But let’s be real, based on your previous comments, your 1-star reviews aren’t about game quality. They’re just you throwing a fit over LGBT+ inclusivity. You’ve called pansexuality "imaginary," dismissed biromantic asexuality as just "low sex drive," and acted like queer people have no place in VNs. Not to mention whining about diversity like it’s some evil "American politics" thing.

If a game isn’t your thing, cool, move on. But review-bombing games just because it dares to acknowledge queer people? That’s not a critique, that’s just straight-up bigotry.

xeb211 days ago(-12)

Review bombing? Quite an assumption, there; I have better things to do with my time. Also, well done completely ignoring anything I actually posted and screeching "bigotry" because you can't handle anyone not agreeing with nonsense. You do realise many gay, bi and trans folk don't agree with any of it and call it out, (don't like the "queer" label, either) as I've said? I even mentioned some of them in the post you're referencing, but ideologues such as yourself don't tend to enjoy being confronted with reality, since it doesn't fit your narrative. Oops?

And no, sweetie, the otome (a Japanese word) genre of VNs always refereed to a female protagonist with male love interests, until some Westerners 7+ years ago decided it meant something entirely different. But sure, go tell a Japanese person it means something else... I'll wait. The whole "Westerners know better than people from the country of origin" is working out real well for Ubisoft, isn't it? Granted, that's not an American company, but they sure have been pushing those politics heavily.

What next; gonna tell me that Bara is something other than M/M relationships, aimed at men? You'd be wrong on that front, too.

Sudachys211 days ago(+6)

Heyy Xeb, Su here (a.k.a the half of Sudachys that didn’t make this game and didn’t reply to your first comment). Not really liking the condescending tone you’ve got going in these comments. You’re definitely free to have your own opinions, and you’re welcome to express them in our comment sections too, as long as you do it in a way that isn’t downright rude. If you can’t do that, then I’ll have to block you because this is not the energy we want in any of our comments.

xeb211 days ago(-10)

I have zero patience for ideologues and responded in the tone that was directed at me. Wasn't planning to stick around regardless, so don't worry; you won't hear from me again. It's rather interesting that you don't have that same energy for the other commenter, though. Speaks volumes.

Sudachys211 days ago(+8)(-1)

Your first comment wasn’t very kind either, Xeb. You started off with the bad tone, so you get the warning.

Bye bye!

malayka_3210 days ago (1 edit) (+3)

bro ignore them alright whatever you're doing is amazing and i loved this game sm it was very fun and interesting to play. i am very much looking forward to the full release! <33 no cuz if they don't like something than just leave or don't play to begin with why feel the need to give hate?? and the hate is so stupid here like hello sorry not everyone is a straight female (coming from a straight female lol), everyone should be allowed to enjoy this. just because it's not a female mc doesn't take away the amazing work put into this and the enjoyment you can get from playing it. so their hate is just dumb. i hope you don't take it to heart and i hope you have an amazing day <33

Alisonray211 days ago (1 edit) (+9)

Oh, you really set yourself up for this one. Let’s dismantle this nonsense piece by piece.

"Review bombing? Quite an assumption, there; I have better things to do with my time."

Oh, so you’re totally not review bombing, but somehow you keep leaving 1-star reviews specifically on games that include LGBT+ content? Yeah, that’s review bombing, my dude. If it walks like a bad-faith troll and talks like a bad-faith troll… well, you get the idea.

"Well done completely ignoring anything I actually posted and screeching 'bigotry' because you can't handle anyone not agreeing with nonsense.

Ah yes, the classic "I'm being oppressed because people are calling me out." Nobody’s “screeching.” Your words speak for themselves. You’ve said pansexuality is “imaginary,” that biromantic asexuality is just a “low sex drive,” and that queer people have no place in VNs. That’s bigotry, not a “difference of opinion.”

"You do realize many gay, bi, and trans folk don't agree with any of it and call it out, (don't like the 'queer' label, either) as I've said?"

Sure, some LGBT+ people don’t like the word "queer," but many do. You don’t get to cherry-pick a few conservative LGBT+ voices and pretend they speak for everyone. That’s like finding a single woman who hates feminism and saying she speaks for all women. That’s not how this works.

"The otome (a Japanese word) genre of VNs always referred to a female protagonist with male love interests, until some Westerners 7+ years ago decided it meant something entirely different."

Except… nope. Japanese devs have been making customizable otome games for years—games that allow gender choice, nonbinary MCs, and even female love interests. Are you gonna tell Idea Factory, Koei Tecmo, and Voltage that they’re wrong about their own genre? Go ahead, I’ll wait.

"The whole 'Westerners know better than people from the country of origin' is working out real well for Ubisoft, isn't it?"

First off, Ubisoft? A company that’s French and known for its AAA corporate greed? What does that have to do with indie otome games? Oh right, nothing.

"What next; gonna tell me that Bara is something other than M/M relationships, aimed at men? You'd be wrong on that front, too."

Literally nobody brought up Bara. You dragged that into the conversation for no reason. Are you just throwing around VN terms to sound smart? Because it’s not working.

Bonus Round: Stop Saying "Sweetie," "Honey," or Any Other Condescending Pet Name.

If your argument relies on belittling people’s ages to make yourself seem smarter, you don’t have a real argument. It doesn’t make you sound wise, it makes you sound insecure and desperate to act superior.

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