Hi,

Fantastic job. Plural : Jobs. I love MFCG, but also the other generators.

I am creating a scenario generator for GameMasters, and I am looking for mapping tools to include in the GM scenarios.

I think that my questions have already been asked, ... but :

- i am interested by getting the 2D map of cities, or caves, or ... but mainly, I am looking for JSON exports, to recreate a 3D view, with my 3D objects (houses, castles, ...). Is it possible to get JSON files on other generators than MFCG ?

- i am interested to "inject" parameters to generators, for instance, houses density, or numbers, or forest density, ... ?

Thanks in advance for your replies.

I say it again : very very great jobs.

PS : I add a third question : I thought I can re-use the URL generated, and change some parameters (walls=0/1, ...), and add export=svg ou export=json to the URL (keeping the seed value). This did'nt work (Error 500). So, I think I have not very well understood the URL syntax/call ? How is it callable directly ?

Mallatius

Hi!

• Four of my generators support JSON export: MFCG, VG, NG and 1PDG. MFCG, VG and NG use the same type of JSON (with buildings, roads, tree etc.), but only MFCG accepts the export url parameter. 1PDG uses a different type of JSON and it also recognizes the export  parameter.
• All of the Arcana generators can be parameterized via url variables, usually by requesting specific tags. For example this should give you an isolated densely built village of the default size.
• Could you send me a link that gives you that error? Adding export=... should work.

Hi,

Thanks a lot for your replies. I'll test your suggestions for both CG and VG !

Hi,

I have continued on CG and VG tests. I publish my questions here, but it concerns VG, (and CG too), but my tests are currently on VG.

My goal is to add some items on a village map, and to transform the 2D map into a 3D map, like your "City Viewer", but with 3D assets from Unity.

So, I exported PNG and JSON files from one VG seed. And I check the position of roads, buildings, trees. But I have some differences.

I have made "suppositions"/"interpretations" with the JSON file. I know that your JSON file is intended to be used only in CV, but I am interested by it.

So, I write a program which superposes PNG with polygons from JSON. I generated a 500x500 "dead end" village. The JSON gives me a 417x417 "earth" size (-208.6 to +208.6).

When I superpose a 417x417 resized PNG , with JSON, I got that :

(blue=road, red=buildings,green=trees).

After several trials, I got the ideal size, which is 350 (70% of declared size ??) :

I have no idea if I made some geometric errors or miscalulations, or if there is something I forgot to include.

Do you have any idea ?

Mallatius

On CG, I have no idea to find the right sizes. VG is square, CG is rectangular.

I have a question: why do you need a PNG? How are you going to use it? Why do you need to superpose PNG and JSON?

In VG, when a user requests a map of a specific size, the generator builds a map a bit larger. In JSON the whole generated map is exported, in PNG - only its visible (requested) part. The point with coordinates (0, 0) in the JSON file will be at the centre of the PNG image.

In MFCG, it's more complicated because the generator exports a map (in PNG and SVG) in such a way that the content (buildings) fills the whole image more or less.

Thanks for your reply.

To answer your question :

My project is a RPG 3D project, build with Unity. I have a library of 3D buildings, houses, fences, towers, ... I want to use the PNG to present a 2D village or a 2D city to the Dungeon Master. He selects one, and I build a 3D village or city with my Unity assets. And I build that with the JSON file, quite like your City Viewer. And RPG players can play in my 3D village or city after 3D generation.

The first check for me was/is to superpose PNG and JSON, to assure a minimal consistency for the DM. If the DM adds some assets to his village (a tavern, a casern, ...) or remove one, I need superposition between PNG and JSON.

Well, as I said, there is no easy way to superpose PNG and JSON, especially in the case of cities. Maybe it would be more straightforward with SVG, but I can't guarantee it without checking the code - this is implemented differently in my different generators. I have no idea how trivial it is to load/manipulate/render SVG in Unity though.

Feel free to ignore the following if you think I'm too slow: To be honest, I still don't understand why it's needed, I might be missing something. This is how I see it: the DM selects a map by browsing PNGs and after that a corresponding JSON is loaded. The JSON data (and only JSON data!) is used to build a 3D scene and that scene is used both for presenting it to players in all its 3D glory AND for as a workspace for DM for adding/editing/removing stuff. In this scenario PNGs are only used as previews and no superposing is needed. Isn't it?

Hi,

My goal was to "permanently synchronize" 2D (PNG) and 3D (JSON) for the DM, during his map design. But, I agree with you : I can still use PNG for thumbnail , during map selection, and work only with JSON when DM adds assets.