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Dordle wordlist (vs Wordle)?

A topic by daverusin created Oct 21, 2022 Views: 2,407 Replies: 6
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Is it possible to get the list of answer-words for Dordle? It's not the same as Wordle's but I only know that from having observed a few Dordle answers that are not in Wordle's answer-list.

I ask because I have done some analyses of Wordle and would like to see the extent to which they hold on Dordle, too (e.g. an algorithm that wins 100% of the time). See   math.utexas.edu/~rusin/wordle/

Thanks!

dave

If you understand Javascript and view the source code you should be able to decode the two word lists.

Well, for me (not a programmer) it took some effort to find the word list embedded in  https://v6p9d9t4.ssl.hwcdn.net/html/6506440/index.html  and then to unpack it, but I'm still wondering if I'm missing something. On the one hand, I *know* I have seen HAPAX as a Dordle solution, and it's not in the list I unpacked. (It's not a Wordle solution, either, which is why I remember it!). And on the other hand, there is a list of hundreds of Wordle solution words that are not in the Dordle solution list, which would be fine except I am wondering why Dordle would avoid such ordinary words as "began" and "women" from the list of answers!

Anyway, on the hope that I've done it right, I've put the list of differences between Dordle and Wordle solution words at  math.utexas.edu/~rusin/wordle/dordlediffs .

"Hapax" was part of the April 1st joke - I assumed it to be a one-off condition coded for that date (all of which was probably removed in a later version of the game so it may not be visible in the code, although I haven't looked), especially considering the definition of "hapax legomenon".

"Women" is plural. If anything, it shouldn't be in the Wordle list.

I have no idea regarding "began", unless it's because it's past tense.

Thank you for the clarifications! So, (assuming I now have the correct Dordle word list) I can adapt a winning strategy that I have developed for Wordle. For Wordle, there are 261 three-word starting sets that allow the player (if s/he is diligent) to guarantee a win by move 5. One of those is BLAST + MIDGE + PORCH .  I can now check that this starting set also works for Dordle, but only by modifying the specifics. So here it is for Dordle:

A player can guarantee a win for Dordle (by the 7th entered word) as follows. Start with BLAST + MIDGE + PORCH. Then, based on the resulting set of colored tiles, in each half of the display, the player should simply enter a Dordle word that is consistent with the clues, with the following exceptions:

1. If, based on the colored tiles in the top 3 rows, the hidden word could be one of the following 35 words, play it next:

allow, assay, awake, awash, awful, crown, dowdy, drone, eater, enjoy, enter, fatty, fever, finer, folly, funky, goner, jawed, kneed, lefty, newly, otter, relax, sally, seize, sever, skate, skier, skulk, snipe, testy, tower, value, viper, wafer

2. If instead the hidden word could be the first element of one of these 20 pairs, play the second word:

[anger, wagon], [catch, clown], [cinch, awful], [crane, anvil], [dizzy, dozen], [fatal, awful], [field, awful], [fifty, flank], [fight, flown], [focal, fever], [forth, awful], [foyer, gawky], [fudge, fauna], [jaunt, jetty], [liner, anvil], [lower, anvil], [major, agony], [snoop, flown], [staff, bonus], [stoke, ankle]

Then, if the word entered does not solve that half of Dordle, then there is a unique Dordle word that will match the clues; enter it and win that half.

Following this recipe in each half of Dordle will take at most 3 + 2 + 2 moves, so the player is guaranteed a win.

(I have phrased these two rules using only words that are common to both Dordle and Wordle, except the unavoidable use of "jawed".)

I don't claim this particular algorithm is optimal in any way; this starting triple "works better" than any of the 260 others for Wordle, but I didn't look to see what other starting triples even exist for Dordle, to say nothing of which is best.

dave

Interesting. This is very much a mathematician's way of winning, however, whereas for a linguistically inclined person the method - and joy - of winning is very much about challenging one's vocabulary and being able to access the right word in one's brain at the right moment by being triggered by letter patterns and one's knowledge of letter frequencies.

Each is a valid method - whatever brings a player the biggest sense of satisfaction!

wow. What a way to take the fun out of finding the right 5 letter word. I just put one in. If I get a green tile, lucky me. I do hate getting redboxxed, but that's what happens in life. I don't have to win, I just enjoy the challenge.