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Demonheart: The Ice Demon

Otome visual novel in the Demonheart universe · By Rolling Crown

A New Demonheart!

A topic by Tathalia created Jun 04, 2022 Views: 770 Replies: 5
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I haven't played yet, but just seeing another Demonheart game in the making is exciting! I'm still, slowly, working my way through all of the routs of  Demonheart: Hunters. and still trying to figure out how I always end up with Brash in the end of Demonheart.... apparently I just like his crude humor, and terrible personality too much??

Previous games aside, I'm really looking forward to this new view of the world!

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I have played the first two games and I like the world and the lore. Personally, I dislike being forced to play as a woman, but that aside I am happy they are still making demonheart games. It is a little bit of a disappointment that this is not a continuation of the previous games because I have been waiting for either another game or something like a DLC. I can't remember exactly how the game ended but I felt it lacked something.

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Lol games aren't required to have customizable gender to cater to your whining and whims, would you go to a book store then complain to an author that the main character is a woman? No, you wouldn't. That's the type of character they chose for their story. Customizable gender usually allows for a sort of "blank page"/self-insert into the role of a main character and not every game is going to be made for self-insertion but to tell a story through a specific character's point of view. (I myself prefer the opposite as I don't care to self insert and prefer a character that has more depth.)

You can always request that a dev considers making a story that involves character customization, but what you said is not in any way a valid form of constructive criticism. You sound ridiculous quite frankly, which is why you're getting downvoted. No one is forcing you to do anything, you see that the MC is a woman so if you don't like that, don't play. There are other games with other gender options you can play. "Wahh, game devs didn't change their story to fit MY wants" is not constructive criticism. But based on some of your other replies, you don't seem to be a very nice person at all and just say rude/demanding things to game devs so it's not surprising. Still, the world doesn't revolve around you. Grow up.

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I didn't insult anyone this is an opinion, and I didn't ask anyone, nor would I ever ask anyone to change a already made game they made to suit my views. I wrote what I hoped to see from this developer. If anything, you are the trying to antagonize me through your non- constructive criticism and insults.  Even if I'm not a "nice" person doesn't justify a rude response from a third party. I respect that people have different tastes and I ever want from any random person is the bare minimum of respect for that opinion even if you don't agree with it.  

If my comments come across as demanding or rude that has never been my intention, but I won't change my opinions for anyone. I might say I expected more of a game, or I would have liked to see something in the game isn't unreasonable and I give reasons for opinions, but I haven't ever just ever shit on a game for no reason. 

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"Personally, I dislike being forced to play as a woman..." What you said isn't an opinion, because again, no one is forcing you to do anything. You saw the protagonist is a woman and chose to play, no one held you at gunpoint to play. "I didn't ask anyone, nor would I ever ask anyone to change a already made game they made to suit my views." You say this and yet, again, are complaining about having to play as a woman. How is that constructive criticism in any way for the game? How could they change that? As for you saying "what you hope to see from them", why should they have to cater their future projects to your preferences either? No one should have to change their vision of what a character will be just to suit your tastes. You say my response was a rude "third party" response and yet fail to see that your response is an extra party response as well; just as you decided to comment where no one asked you, I have as well. You have the right to say what you want but that doesn't mean it makes any sense and that you won't be criticized. You didn't receive so many downvotes for nothing, I wasn't the only "third party" that thought your response was rude and non-constructive. You can say that I'm not being constructive and my response clearly was, but even if I wasn't, I don't have to be because this isn't someone's work I am critiquing but a rude comment. 

And you say that your words are an opinion that should be respected but what you said wasn't an opinion. It was a complaint. "I don't like playing as women" is not an opinion. "You should make games to suit my gender preferences" is not an opinion. Those are all demands even if you deny that they are. If I go to email the game devs of a strategy game and tell them "I like visual novel games, I hate being forced to play strategy games, so you guys should make visual novel games instead" I would look just as silly and receive an acceptance letter to Circus Clown University in the mail.

I'm not going back and forth with you since you clearly don't see anything wrong with what you said. Lack of self-reflection isn't shocking given you felt comfortable leaving the original comment in the first place. Telling people to shape their art to suit your specific tastes is just madness.

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I'm not looking to argue either we aren't going to change each other's minds and that is fine. To be concise, the downvotes don't really matter to me, telling someone to grow up and the world doesn't revolve around them is not constructive criticism, replying to my rude comment with your own rude comment is hypocrisy even if people support it or you justify it, I never once said my comment was constructive but I didn't mean anything harsh and I don't see it as such, self-reflection doesn't mean I change my opinion I read yours and I thought about it I could see your point it doesn't I agree with it, you equated me saying I hope that they make a  choice of your sex/gender in a future game with demanding them change a genre of game that isn't the same thing and a unreasonable comparison.  Most companies or groups cater to their audience it is just a fact, concessions tend to be made for the majority which is not saying I am a part of it. I actually enjoy talking to people like you.  Both of your comments have argumentative and/or dismissive of my opinion, it is what I think and feel therefor it is an opinion. I have been respectful of your comments within reason, I will ask you this question did you consider my perspective at any point? I have read it and thought about yours, and I have briefly covered most points.  I can only concede on my opinion be put bluntly, which may agitate some.