As it works fine on your Widows 10 machine I presume you have the Q X7 set up with a model according to the Taranis Windows setup guide.
On Android it usually works plugged in using a default model. That is, don't use your windows model setup on your Taranis, try with a default model setting and see if that makes a difference.
Hi there and thank you! Hmm does it not see the joystick input at all?
That is, are you not able to move any of the little circles on the calibration screen up and down?
What kind of radio are you using?
Sometimes there's a conflict if you have other joysticks/controllers/input devices connected at the same time (even Wacom tablets can sometimes cause a conflict)
Best Regards
Thanks for the reply! Yes, i was not able to move the circles.
Except now, after i uninstalled drivers for a 3D Connexxion Space Navigator. After this uninstall everything works as usual.
Unfortunately i need this space navigator for work, so either i uninstall/install that 3dconnexxion drivers at every freerider session, or there might be a fix in the future.
Best Regards
Here are some general suggestions that often help when a few of the channels are not recognized:
- Make sure you don't have any other joysticks/controllers connected, that might cause a conflict.
- Make sure you uninstall vJoy and Smartpropoplus if you have them. Their driver messes with things when connecting via USB.
- Make sure you have "Heli" selected as model type on your radio. ("Plane" generally doesn't work very well).
- Check if there's a switch on the dongle where you can select different modes.
- Perhaps you can remap the output channels (in the menu of the transmitter) so that it sends to another channel.
yeeehaaa I have got it to work. It seems the problem was that I didn't have the tx selected to heli as heli is not available on the futaba t6exa so I swapped to a futaba ff8 and it works perfectly. I will be upgrading to the full version soon. Can the fpv camera angle be changed in the full version? Thanks again fpv freerider :)
Thanks! Glad to hear it's working on your setup.
It does in fact save the config automatically, and once you have calibrated you should never have to do it again. But, I have got several reports from Linux users that the calibration does not save (or that it suddenly 'disappears'). I haven't been able to find out why though. Perhaps it's has something to do with permissions - Unity (that is used for development) stores the data under /home/your user/.config/unity3d
You could try checking that location to see if the data seems to save or not.
Or, perhaps Unitys input manager is not working very well with all Linux distributions.
There is always an option for USB controller, just click the button on the right side of the main menu repeatedly to toggle input mode.
(USB Controller/Keyboard/Touchscreen)
For it to be recognized correctly on Windows you need to set up the endpoints according to this document:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwSDHIR7yDwSOGhPMTFyWEpDVWM/view?usp=sharing
(There is also some general tips in the manual).
I'm not a linux user myself so I'm not going to be able to be of much help here. If you have any other joysticks/controllers/drawing tablets connected at the same time you can try to disconnect those, having more than one can cause a conflict.
You might know of the jscal joystick calibration program, you could try playing around with the setting there.
Are you seeing any movement on any of the little circles as you go through the "calibrate controller" procedure in Freerider?
Your best bet to find specific instructions for your particular setup would be to search around for youtube videos and/or forum posts from people who have similar equipment.
Since you have the Devo 7 that does not have a USB port it becomes a bit more tricky. You will need to connect it via the trainer port instead.
On Windows that would be pretty easy using a software called Smartpropolus. I haven't been able to find a similar software for Linux.
(Devo 7E in combination with Deviationtx would be easier since that can act as a USB joystick)
You might also be able to use a universal 22-in-1 USB dongle such as this.
https://www.banggood.com/22-in-1-RC-Flight-Simulator-Cable-for-Realflight-G7-G6-...
Not sure if it works on Linux.
(You might also be able to connect it via a wireless USB dongle in combination with a receiver for the Devo 7, I wouldn't really recommend going down that path unless you are willing to do a lot of research though).
It might just be easier to get a USB dummy controller such as this:
https://www.banggood.com/Wholesale-Httpwww_banggood_comWholesale-6CH-G4-XTR5_0-R...
Not sure if that works on Linux either though. So in summary, I cannot give a definite answer for such specific and hmm shall we say tricky equipment. There are so many Linux distributions and variations, you need to try it on your own setup to know what will work for sure.
Are there a few channels that are giving input during the calibrate controller procedure, and some that does not? (You should see the movement of each stick represented by one of the little circles above the OK button)
In that case you can check:
- Make sure you don't have any other joysticks/controllers connected, that might cause a conflict.
- Make sure you uninstall vJoy and Smartpropoplus if you have them. Their driver messes with things when connecting via USB.
- Make sure you have "Heli" selected as model type on your radio.("Plane" often doesn't work very well).
- Perhaps you can remap the output channels (in the menu of the transmitter) so that it sends to another channel.
Thank you for the video. Have you tried setting up your transmitter according to the Taranis setup document?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwSDHIR7yDwSOGhPMTFyWEpDVWM/view?usp=sharing
I think it might work if you do.
Thank you for replying and finding a solution to the problem. I too had the same exact issue that jaseduar10 was having. Freerider works perfectly without any modification to model settings when connected to either directly to USB, or using HobbyKing Orange FrSky USB Dongle wirelessly. But i feel the problem should be addressed. XSR-SIM works with other Sims without any model settings. Why is FreeRider interpreting inputs incorrectly when connected with XSR-Sim USB dongle only? I have many sims, but Freerider is the one I come back to when I need to refresh my thumbs when I haven't flown in awhile. But if we make model settings on the X9D, makes me feel differently about using FreeRider as a "Sim".
Thanks for all your support
FPV Freerider is developed in Unity and uses Unity's input managed. I can only read what is coming through the input manager.
With the benefit of hindsight perhaps I should have used another input manager, but currently I am hesitant to make any major changes to the input method since that might cause unexpected issues for people who have it set up working fine as it is now.
You should still be able to use the same equipment. The input system of FPV Freerider is the same.
Note that if you are using a FrSky 9X/Frsky Q X7 or similar you should be able to connect it directly via USB cable (no need for a dongle). There are lots of youtube videos that shows how that is done, a collection of links is at the very first post of this forum thread.
Thank you, I'm glad you like it! I'm not exactly sure what you mean since I'm not a Linux user myself. However, in short, I don't have direct control over the input - I can only see what comes through Unity's input manager (I use Unity for development). Therefore any device needs to be correctly recognized by the Unity input manager to work.
Thank you for answer. I found how to add device to Unity project, but not sure, if it help someone except me. May be simpler to fix joystick.
Yes, you can have a look at some tutorial videos on how to connect it. For example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgV_YlA9pxo
There are many more videos that show how to do it, you can try searching for "flysky i6 freerider" on youtube for example.
Also there are some general advice in the user manual.
When you go through the calibrate controller procedure, are you able to move four of the little circles with the sticks?
Sometimes the automatic stick detection gets it wrong. Keep an eye on the little circles as you go through the calibration. You can manually click on the circle that you see is the correct one for each stick (instead of clicking "ok")
If there are less than four circles moving as you go through the calibrate controller procedure you can try these things:
- Make sure you don't have any other joysticks/controllers connected, that might cause a conflict.
- If connecting via USB, make sure you uninstall vJoy and Smartpropoplus if you have them. Their driver messes with things when connecting via USB.
- Perhaps you can remap the output channels (in the menu of the transmitter) so that it sends to another channel.
First of all, if you happen to have an Xbox/Playstation controller (or similar gamepad with two analog nubs) laying around you can try that first of all. That will not give very accurate control though. It is way better to use an actual RC transmitter.
If you are thinking of getting into the hobby more seriously my best advice would be to get a good RC transmitter right away which you can use to fly your real quads as well as practice on the simulator. For example the Taranis Q X7 is a popular radio which is good value for money I would say. It is highly likely that it will work as a joystick on your Linux machine, connected directly via USB, but you will have to try to know for sure if it works on your setup.
Since it works on your desktop computer it should work on your laptop too. Here are some general suggestions that often help when one channel is not recognized:
- Make sure you don't have any other joysticks/controllers connected, that might cause a conflict.
- If connecting via USB, make sure you uninstall vJoy and Smartpropoplus if you have them installed. Their driver messes with things when connecting via USB.
- Make sure you have "Heli" selected as model type on your radio. ("Plane" often doesn't work very well).
- Perhaps you can remap the output channels (in the menu of the transmitter) so that it sends to another channel.
You could also simply try plugging it into another USB port and see if that makes a difference.
Can't speak for what controllers will work best on your setup (especially since I don't even own a Mac myself), generally I would recommend using an actual RC radio most of all. There are models with USB connection possibility that can be found about for the same price as a Playstation/Xbox controller. And actual RC radio will give a lot more fine control. Also, since gamepads have self-centering throttle they will never be really ideal for simulator practice.
Thanks for sharing the information. Hmm it's strange that you have to re-do the calibration, you really shouldn't have to do that if you got it right once. In case it looses the calibration or there is some strange behavior like not all axis are working, it's usually some conflict with another USB device. If you have more than one input device connected at the same time (another joystick, drawing tablet etc..) that can cause a conflict.
(It might also be a problem with the USB driver. For example if you have installed vJoy/Smartpropoplus or similar software, that might cause a conflict with the USB driver).
Well, since it was working before my guess is something has changed in your operating system (There has been no changes to the input method in Freerider). I know a lot of Windows 10 users started having problems with their USB drivers some weeks back due to an automatic Windows 10 update. You might need to revert to the old drivers, you can find more information and a possible solution here:
Did you select "Joystick" as you connect it (not mass storage)? Do you see it as a joystick/HID-device in your Windows Control Panel>Devices and Printers ? You need to make sure that the radio is recognized as a joystick by your operating system first of all. If you are not able to get help here or by youtube videos my best bet would be do try to get help in a dedicated Taranis X9 Lite thread on the RC Groups forum for example.
Yes, there was an automatic Windows 10 update that rolled out some weeks ago that broke the USB drivers. If anyone else is having a similar problem you can find more information here:
Windows 10 USB driver fix
youtube.com/watch?v=rk6bjS4PEWI
youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=SDnRSL3rDwM
https://batcavegames.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/16000099501-window...
Here are some general suggestions that often help when one or more channels are not recognized:
- Make sure you don't have any other joysticks/controllers connected, that might cause a conflict.
- If connecting via USB, make sure you uninstall vJoy and Smartpropoplus if you have them installed. Their driver messes with things when connecting via USB.
- Make sure you have "Heli" selected as model type on your radio. ("Plane" often doesn't work very well).
- Perhaps you can remap the output channels (in the menu of the transmitter) so that it sends to another channel.
Please note that during the calibrate controller procedure in Freerider, sometimes the automatic stick detection gets it wrong. If needed, it is possible to manually override the automatic stick detection
Keep an eye on the little circles above the OK button. Instead of clicking OK you can click on the circle that you see is the correct one for each channel. (You will still need to keep the stick all the way in the direction shown while clicking in order for the calibration to work correctly).
There is more information in the user manual and Taranis setup document.
I see, you get the same result with all three controllers?
Often when only one axis is not working, it can be fixed by trying one of these things:
- Make sure you don't have any other joysticks/controllers connected at the same time, that might cause a conflict.
- Make sure you uninstall vJoy and Smartpropoplus if you have them. Their driver messes with things when connecting via USB.
Keep and eye on the little circles above the OK button as you go through the Calibrate Controller procedure in Freerider. You should be able to move some of the circles smoothly up and down using the analog sticks. Sometimes the automatic stick detecting gets it wrong, in that case you can manually click on the circle that you see is the correct one (instead of clicking 'ok"). (You will still need to hold the stick fully in the direction shown for the calibration to work correctly).
Hi, from what you describe it sounds like you need to set up the endpoints on your radio.
I am not familiar with the Betafpv Literadio 2, but the issue sounds similar to what some Taranis users are experiencing (depending on what firmware version the Taranis is running).
In the case of the Taranis, the endpoints sometimes needs to be set up so that the range is from 0 to +100 (instead of -100 to +100)
It is described in this document: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwSDHIR7yDwSOGhPMTFyWEpDVWM/view?usp=sharing
There is also some youtube videos that shows how to do it on the Taranis, for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlR5eqm1aKE
Also, if the automatic stick detection gets it wrong during calibration in Freerider you can manually click the circle that you see is the correct one (instead of clicking 'OK')
Hope you can use a similar method on your radio to get the calibration to work correctly!
Thanks for the fast reply. I think you are right. The range is currently - 100 to +100 (instead of 0 to 100). I have installed open tx 2.3.6 and can see those ranges in action when the sticks are moved but I can't figure out where to change the range to 0-100. Anyone have any info on this? Is that doc you sent me pictures of screen areas in open tx, or are they pics of adjustments made directly on the controller (as the Radiolite 2 does not have a screen...). Thanks again.
I found this manual for the BetaFPV Literadio 2:
However it doesn't mention anything about whether any setup adjustments is possible regarding the endpoints. My suggestion would be to contact BetaFPV directly and ask them if/how you can change the settings.
(FPV Freerider can only read what is coming in through the input manager. The input is shown as the little circles above the OK button as you go through calibration in Freerider. Ideally you should be able to move the little circles smoothly up and down between the lines on the left which marks the max/min value.)
(And yes, the pictures in the document I sent in the earlier reply is from what is seen directly on the screen of the transmitter itself, in this case a Taranis X9D).
It's a known issue with the Unity input manager and some versions of OpenTX.
Yes you are right, you need to setup the endpoints on your radio to go from 0 to +100 (instead of - 100 to +100)
You can find information on how to get your controller set up in the Taranis setup guide.
(There are also a lot of youtube videos that shows how to do it).
You can also find some general tips in the user manual.
Hi,
have a problem with a simple USB RC "Transmitter". In WIN 10 Properties i can see action when i push the sticks. But in Freerider no action when i try to calibrate. About one year ago i had no problem with this transmitter. I already tried the WIN 10 USB Driver fix. Same result. Can somebody help me further?
The input system in Freerider is the same as before, so I suspect there must be something that has changed on your system.
The automatic Windows 10 update broke the USB drivers for a lot of people, so that would be the first things that I would investigate further. I understand that you have already tried it, but I believe on some systems it might be more persistent and you might need to use a different method. Here is the method that usually works for most people (the one I guess that you have already tried).
You might want to try to search for some other methods if that didn't solve the issue on your computer. Try searching for "windows 10 usb joystick driver" on Youtube for example, here are some links: 1 2 3 4 5
Also check, just in case - that you don't have any other joysticks/controllers connected, that might cause a conflict. And, make sure you uninstall vJoy and Smartpropoplus if you have them installed. Their driver messes with things when connecting via USB.
Not sure what the mystery controller might be. I use Unity's built in input manager for the controls, I don't think it can show the name of the controller it's actually reading. Also I'm not a Mac user myself so I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to Mac specific questions. At least on Windows joysticks/controllers that are being detected usually shoes up as a generic HID device in the operating systems device manager. Perhaps you could try to temporarily disable the last thing that you suspect might show up as a controller (although I wouldn't really recommended it if it is indeed some kind of security chip...).
My guess is it's the xbox 360 controller driver that doesn't get picked up as a joystick in Unity's input manager. Did you try to connect the controller without any extra drivers first? (A lot of the time generic gamepads automatically connects as joysticks, at least on Windows).
Hmmm that is very strange. Installing the full version shouldn't affect the demo, or vice versa.
If you have already tried all other reasonable approaches, this is what I would do:
- Delete both the demo and the full version from your computer.
- Restart your computer.
- Download the zip file for the full version again (just in case there was some error in the download)
- Unzip the full version, possible to another folder on your hard drive
- Re-connect your transmitter. Make sure you don't have any other joysticks/controllers connected at the same time as that might cause a conflict.
- Try to re-calibrate in Freerider
(As you may know there was an automatic Windows 10 update that rolled out some time ago that broke the USB drivers. I don't think that is the problem on your system though since you were using it without any problems basically just minutes before. I just thought I'd mention it anyway. You can find more information here).
I see, well I'm not a Mac user myself so I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to MacOS specific stuff.
I would still suggest trying to start from scratch as much as possible, deleting the earlier versions and re-installing the full version.
The first thing I would do, unless you have already done so, is to simply restart the computer and see if that makes a difference.
(One more thing, you could try to go into the save game data of Freerider and see if perhaps something went wrong there. If the data somehow got messed up you might be able to get it working by deleting the old save data. The data is stored at: ~/Library/Preferences/Freerider (or something similar to that) )
Make sure you select "Joystick" as connection method when you plug in in (not "Mass storage").
What operating system are you running it on?
Do you get any movement of the little circles as you go through the Calibrate Controller procedure in Freerider?
There was an automatic Windows 10 update that rolled out some time ago that broke the USB drivers. Not sure if that affects you, but you can find more information here.
Also, there is some general tips in the user manual that you can check out.
Ok glad that you are at least able to fly using the Xbox controller. Of course it's a lot nicer to use an actual radio, so I hope you will be able to get it working. Perhaps you need to check out the Windows 10 update document (link in the above post), there are also a lot of videos on youtube videos that speaks of how some Windows 10 update broke the USB drivers (not just for Freerider) and that shows how to fix it.
Thanks for the video, judging from that it will be easy to get it working -
First of all, in the beginning it says "center all sticks", you don't need to move them - if they are already in the center just leave them be.
Second, if the automatic stick detection gets it wrong you can manually select the channel that you see is the correct one. Keep an eye on the little circles above the OK button. They show the input that is being read from the stick movement. You can manually click the little circle that you see is the correct one (instead of clicking 'OK'). (You will still need to hold the stick in the direction shown for the calibration to work correctly).
Hope that helps, let me know if you need any more info!
Generally speaking, if a controller can be recognized as a joystick by the operating system there's a good chance that it can be used with FPV Freerider.
However, I have heard reports from many people that the betafpv literadio2 does not support joystick emulation on Android. (I do believe it works in Windows though).
Since it is not recognized correctly by the operating system there is nothing I can do about it unfortunately.
