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When a young girl has the ultimate power over your emotions… do you want to resist? · By Burst Out Games

Why I give up on this...

A topic by Maxime Martyr created Oct 09, 2021 Views: 2,049 Replies: 18
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Heeeelp! I am drowning in quotes, references and memes! I don’t know how to swim in a story who is so uninspired that they have to reference other stories at every sentence!

Well, okay, if you want to show off how awesome you are because you know multiple languages then at least make sure you ACTUALLY know them because “omelette du fromage” doesn’t mean anything, its english translation would be “omelet of the cheese”, if you want to say “omelet with cheese” then say “omelette au fromage”, I’m not blaming you for getting the words wrong, I’m annoyed because you are so proud to show off your ignorance.

Okay, now I have to speak my mind and it has been getting on my nerves from the start.

I get the impression that the author of this visual novel is a man who was cheated on because he paid too much attention to his job and not enough to his wife and he wrote this visual novel in order to deny his responsibility because even though we have a choice to blame Stacey for cheating on us or acknowledging we are at fault for making her feel lonely, we STILL blame her for cheating.

And everyone around us blame her too, no one says to our face that we had it coming because we cared more about our job than our family so I really get the impression that this happened to the author and he doesn’t want to admit he is at fault so he writes a story to justify he is not, making all characters antagonize the despicable cheating wife and sympathize with the unfortunate hard working man.

Also, the premise of the niece who has powers to control our emotions is an excuse for not taking responsibility to feel attracted to her because it is her fault, she influences our mind, it all comes from her.
Actually, everything in this story feels like an excuse to never take responsibility for anything and blaming anything and anyone other than ourselves, the author must really be an unassuming individual to come with such a design…

Here we go! Just when I was starting to think that the author finally took responsibility because Stacey FINALLY said to his face that he had it coming, she ends by saying that she made terrible terrible mistakes, she wishes she could reverse time and take it all back, she was wrong, she is to blame, she is despicable, yada yada.
So still as unassuming as ever.
Because if he finally grew a spine to take responsibility, Stacey would NOT apologize because she SHOULDN’T apologize!

She should say: “I won’t apologize because what I did what the consequences of your own choices. You lived for yourself, for your job, you wanted to make your way to the top for your own ego, and you didn’t care about anyone else, so how could you ever blame me for seeking company from where I could when you were not here? This would have never happened if you hadn’t left me alone. You are the one who left our family down, not me.”

How I wish she would say that to his face once and for all!
How that pisses me off that she takes the blame for everything for him to keep pretending he is a saint!

Aaaargh! Are you fucking kidding me?!?
Even when we DO have the choice to keep blaming her or taking responsibility, we STILL refuse to fully take responsibility because we keep blaming her instead of acknowledging it was our fault.
I swear the author is definitely a fucking hypocrite…

When a relationship falls apart because one of them stops paying attention to the other, no matter how the other reacts, it is 100% the fault of the one who stops paying attention because whatever the other does, they do it BECAUSE the other stopped paying attention.
If your wife cheats on you because she feels lonely, then ask yourself why she felt lonely instead of asking her why she cheated on you, you asshole!

Uuuuuuurgh, the dialogues with Stacey are so disgustingly cheesy that I’m genuinely feeling sick, legit.
Please, I beg you, Bryan, shut up, I don’t want to have diabetes!
Seriously, the author is so all over Stacey that it feels as if he tells his true story with his ex-wife.
But you know what? I don’t give a shit about how much you are smitten with a woman that you forgot she existed when you decided to give your everything to your new job then blame her for seeking elsewhere what she no more got from you.

Developer(+7)

Hi Maxime, thanks for your comments. With regards to the french phrase used, it's actually a reference to Dexter's Laboratory. For the player's actions, it's mentioned many times by both Bryan and the other characters that he does feel a lot of remorse for his part in the divorce. It may be that you selected other choices in the game that led you to different outcomes. Thank you again for your comments and as always we'll take them onboard. Cheers!

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See? You prove my point. You are exactly like your protagonist, never taking responsibility, always rejecting fault on others.

I made it clear that I WANTED to take responsibility so I obviously made every choice in that sense but no matter if I chose to acknowledge my responsibilities, Bryan still blamed others no matter the choices made.

It is never "I was at fault.", it is always "I was at fault, but so were you.", he always tries to share the blame instead of taking it fully.

And seeing your reaction, "It is your fault, you made wrong choices.", I was right, you are just as unassuming as your protagonist.

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Hi Maxime, thanks again for your comment. Here are just 2 examples out of the many throughout the game which you may have missed where the protagonist admits and takes responsibility for his part in the divorce. Hope this helps, and we're sorry if the game is not to your liking. But thanks again for playing it and having such passionate responses! Cheers!

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Thank you, your examples are perfect to prove my point.

See? "You were wrong, and so was I.", "It's as much my fault as it is yours."

He never takes full responsibility for his mistakes, he always tries to guilt others and put half the blame on them.

Developer(+7)

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you're a moron. who gives a flying fuck. if you like the game, play it. if you don.t, then don't but shut the fuck up you idiot. if you want reality then watch a documentary, or soap operas, geeze.

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Funny that you bother to reply to state that you don't give a flying fuck and that soap operas are for people who seek realism, do you always feel the urge to reply such absurdities? 😏

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Holy fucking thread necro batman LMFAO.

this is the second time someone has raised this tread from the dead well after a year of inactivity in two years. LMFAO.

for reference we ALL stopped replying to this loser because he's clearly a headcase with delusions of grandeur, thinking he's so clever in his replies.  You're better off beating your head against a brick wall than engaging with this rampant fuck knuckle,

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All I can say is. Wow..  Just wow...

I haven't even played this game yet, but based on what I have read of this feed so far, I feel the need to point some things out.

You (Maxime Martyr, not the Dev) make points that literally contradict the biggest complaint you have so far.  (Ignoring the small detail about The Language goof)

The (despicable [As you put it]) cheating wife vs. the (Pass the buck husband):  I don't really know how to even say this without coming across as a dick, but I will do my best.  You make the point that the  cheating wife is not at fault for cheating because the husband neglected his home life in favor of work, and quoting you verbatim, 

      "it is 100% the fault of the one who stops paying attention because whatever the other does, they do it BECAUSE the other stopped paying attention";  

This statement is not only stupid, it's also completely contradictory to the point you are trying to make.  In reality, it is BOTH of their faults.  The husband's for not paying attention to his S.O. and the wife's for being unfaithful.  It's a 50/50 spread.  I don't know what fantasy world you live in that it's acceptable to cheat on your S.O. because you feel they aren't paying enough attention to you.  In a healthy relationship, communication is the most important factor, and if that communication cannot be achieved in a healthy manner, then it is best to just end the relationship BEFORE becoming unfaithful.  

So yes, the wife is "Despicable" for being unfaithful, as it is NEVER okay to cheat on an S.O.  She is also at fault for not communicating her unhappiness to the husband (I am assuming here, because again I have not played this game, and am only grasping at straws based on what has been posted so far)  She is also at fault for not ending the marriage before seeking comfort in another's arms.  Likewise, the Husband is at fault for not being attentive to his wife's needs, for not communicating with her and being apathetic to the signs of her unhappiness.  

The way you stated that it is 100% his fault for not paying attention is not only ignorant, but also wildly naïve and immature.  If this is truly how you feel, might I suggest therapy .  Seriously, because of the aggressiveness in your OP, it really shows you also have some issues with being able understand basic concepts of a healthy adult relationship.  As well as contradicting the point you are trying to make.

Briefly touching on the niece with emotional manipulation abilities. (Again, only grasping at straws here from information you provided)

If she truly does have some means of emotional manipulation, and is ACTIVELY using it, then yes.  She is at fault for forcing emotions and desires on a person without consent.  however, it is also the uncle's fault for acting on those desires, because based on evidence provided, her ability does not affect free will. so again, I would say the blame is a 50/50 spread and not the 100% one way or another as you have asserted it is.  Which I feel the need to point out again, also contradicts your initial argument about accepting blame where blame is due, and based upon those two assertations, suggests you have problems understanding the nuances of healthy relationships and live in a black and white world.  To which I again suggest you seek out some therapy. (In the most respectful way possible) 


You are clearly trying to psychoanalyze this WAY too much while not having the emotional faculties to do so in an unbiased and non-generalizing manner.  Which points to poor communication skills, immature logic and reasoning, radical generalization, and blatantly poor emotional comprehension.

Final note, this is a piece of fiction meant to broach subject matter that many consider to be taboo in an environment that is healthier than the real world, and as such certain material should be taken with a grain of salt.  You are not the author, and therefore have no say in the subject matter, the means of storytelling or plot devices used to tell the story.  If it's not your cup of tea, then just delete the game and move on, instead of making an inflammatory and aggressive post the drastically highlights your own insecurities and immaturity.  

Dr. Phil rant officially concluded lol


@Dev:

I apologize for my longwinded monologue, and the fact you have to deal with people like this, please don't let someone like this get to you, and keep telling your story however you choose to.


Have a great day

**Addendum**

I just realized the OP is over 190 days old.  Apologize for the thread necro

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Okay so according to you, a wife should stay exclusive to her husband even if said husband pays no attention to her? And you call ME unrealistic, naive and ignorant?

By the way, you talk big game and you don't even understand the words you use.

For example: "unfaithful". You used this word. Wrongly. Do you even understand this word? Let's deconstruct it then.

un - faith - full

The core word is "faith". "faith" means "belief", that's why this word is mostly used by religions as religions are all about believing blindly without actual proof.

"full" designs an adjective, like "beautiful" means "full of beauty", "faithful" means "full of faith".

And "un" means "not".

So "unfaithfull" actually means "not full of faith".

So are you sure that's what you actually meant when you used this word, you wanted to express that cheating wives are not full of faith? Of course not, that's why I used the correct word that you meant instead: exclusive.

Now, you claim that I speak out of my own fantasy world and call me ignorant, which I find funny because you couldn't be more wrong since I speak from actual real life experience.

Let me explain, I am a man who pays attention to women.

And because I am caring, unsatisfied engaged women are attracted to me, because I give them what their so-called "significant other" is meant to give them and don't: attention.

To be clear, what I call "engaged women" is women in couple, being officially engaged, fiancee, married, or not. Without or with children.

It always starts the same, they start complaining about their poor love(less)life, then they notice that I don't hear them out out of courtesy, I actually care and try my best to advise them to improve their life, as I always do since I think it is pointless to complain if we don't do our best to change what we dislike.

And this is exactly what they crave because their so-called S.O, actually scratch that, I don't like this choice of words, I will say "lover" instead, so this is exactly what they crave because their so-called lover deny it to them: attention, care, sympathy, affection, a sense of self-esteem, a belief that they actually are worth paying attention to, among other needs.

So they eventually fall in love with me because I make them feel appreciated, and not because I manipulate them but because I can see their qualities that their so-called lover misses and actually appreciate them and let them know that they are worth more that what they were made to believe.

I don't feel any guilt to say that I am a man with who engaged women cheat on their oblivious unworthy so-called lover, they wouldn't need me if their so-called lover would already give them what they look for from me so why would I feel guilty that women cheat on their so-called lovers with me and why would I blame these abandoned women if these unsatisfying so-called lovers basically push them into my welcoming arms?

They would not NEED me if they were not starved by their uncaring so-called lovers now would they?

So you think engaged women whose their so-called lover don't appreciate them SHOULD remain loyal unconditionally and you call ME unrealistic, acting all mighty as if I spoke from a fantasy world?

You make me laugh.

Really, thinking that loyalty should be unconditional is WAY MORE a concept out of a fantasy world than my realistic approach of things.

Actually, I didn't want to bother replying to you since you posted almost 200 days ago and I ignored you...until the dumb-ass author who writes a visual novel to seek approval that he is not to blame to have abandoned his wife, for some reasons, praised your bullshit not even using his own words but using a Rick & Morty meme, not surprising all things considered since his visual novel is mostly nothing but an uninspired compilation of memes, quotes and references from other works, so of course he would use a meme to express himself.

The thing is, I forgot you until his today post got me a notification and drew me back here 200 days after I was done here.

So I read again to remind me what here is about, then I decided to answer to you after all, you can thank the author for digging up this topic for that.

Now I acknowledge that you still made valid points that I approve of, for instance, communication and ending unsatisfying relationships instead of cheating, I approve of.

And this is why you clearly are the one among us who lacks grasping of reality, because you don't seem to realize that people, even unsatisfied, hate to be alone, they rather cheat than end their relationship without being sure that they won't be left alone.

So they FIRST look for a new relationship, develop it, test it, make sure it is solid, BEFORE they end their current unsatisfying relationship and claim back their freedom.

That is, if there is no complication such as legal engagement and/or children.

You would be surprised how many women with children loved me but stubbornly chose to stay with the father of their children, not out of love for him, but because they feared their children's trauma if their parents separated, and so, even if I explained to them that living with parents who don't want to be together is way more traumatizing than living each on their own peacefully, you wouldn't believe how mothers are subjected to a real phobia of traumatizing their children if they separate from the father, that fear literally paralyze them, stops them from claiming their freedom and chance of happiness back!

But they still have needs to take care of, and they rather sneak and cheat, hoping they are not caught to save the illusion of a happy family for their children than separate, I hate that but that's how it is.

I have much experience with married women with children to know exactly how they work.

That's why I don't put the blame on them, because I understand they wouldn't cheat if they didn't need to to begin with.

And they wouldn't need to cheat and risk their family if their husband satisfied them.

So yeah, I told it and I tell it again: If someone cheats, put yourself in their shoes and ask yourself WHY they cheated. Nobody risks to lose something precious for no reason. That is, IF there is something precious to care for. Then ask yourself not why they cheated but why they NEEDED to cheat. THEN you will understand what you are missing in your perception of reality.

And about communication, this is an activity who requires talking and listening. And usually, people who cheat are people whose so-called "significant other" doesn't listen to them.

In this visual novel, do you think the wife who cheated never tried to tell her husband that she needs hims, that his family needs him.

How many times do you think he bluntly answered "Not now, I am busy." before she cheated on him?

You talk about what is right, what is wrong, what is good, what is bad, and this is why you are way more immature than I am.

I especially love how you claimed that I live in a black and white world while you are the one claiming what is "right" and what is "wrong". 😏

The wise question is not "What is right? What is wrong? What is good? What is bad?", a wiser question is "Why do people do what they do? What are their motivations? What do they want? What do they need?".

As long as you keep talking with subjective concepts such as "right", "wrong", "good", "evil" and don't try to think objectively, not with subjective moral concepts but with objective logical reasoning, then you are still a naive kid and really are in no position to tell anyone what is "wrong" and what is "right".

You have a right to express your personal perception such as "I don't like it, it makes me feel wrong." but why do you think you have a right to claim what should feel wrong for everyone? See? Unwise you are.

You suggested me therapy, which is a completely irrelevant suggestion, then allow me to suggest you an actual relevant advice: Experience real life before preaching your ideals as if they were the way of real world.

And please, spare me your fake "respect" because your condescension, when you talk with no actual grasp of reality, makes you to appear a fool, so you don't need to pretend that you are respectful while throwing pathetic insult after pathetic insult at me, which don't phase me since they are irrelevant anyway.

Now, you claim that if the niece uses her powers of emotions manipulation then she is to blame, right? But you don't ask WHY the author designed her with these powers of emotions manipulation, which was my subject, so once more, you missed the point.

I suggested that the author designed her with powers of emotions manipulations to serve the purpose of blame her if her uncle feels attracted to her, since everything in this visual novel is designed to not stain the immaculate innocent irreproachable saint protagonist who is a victim of everyone's deeds and never take full responsibility for anything.

Which brings me back to you, author, instead of designing uninspired fictions full of cheesy dialogues destined to your (ex-)wife all the while keeping blaming her to seek approval from readers that you are a victim, you would better use your time to write a mail to her to beg her for forgiveness for having abandoned her and your family when they needed you and you didn't care.

And if you felt so much attracted to your niece that you designed her fictional alter-ego with supernatural powers to justify she attracted you, then fuck her (if she really wants) and assume your desires (IF they are reciprocal, don't even think about putting the blame on me if you abuse someone!).

In any case, stop wasting our time with your uninspired fiction designed to make you feel better with our approval and act in your real life to make things "right" as your immature advocate would say, and if you still want to design fiction, then actually think about what you would like to communicate WITH YOUR OWN WORDS instead of blandly assembling memes, quotes and references to other works so much that once they are removed, nothing much is left in your work.

In order to inspire people, you HAVE TO be inspired yourself first.

And instead of applauding people who defend you, learn to use critics to improve yourself.

If people merely say they don't like your work because, no reason, they don't explain why they dislike, then sure, they are useless critics.

BUT! When people bother to EXPLAIN WHY they dislike your work and they point out valid points, then use these critics to learn to improve yourself instead of dumbly applauding other people who merely shit on justified critics with no actual valid counter-argument because you won't evolve this way and will stagnate.

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Yeah, Imma be honest with you pal.  I'm not reading all of that.  What little I did read, further shows me your mentality.  I refuse to fall down this rabbit hole.  The fact you had to debate the semantics of grammar, instead of understanding the that term "unfaithful" is used extensively by millions of people to describe a cheating partner.    I will say this though, yes, she should have been faithful, for no other reason than there is ABSOLUTELY no excuse to cheat on your partner.  None, zip, zilch, nada.   If she was unhappy, then she needs to communicate that with her partner, not bottle it up until she explodes and goes out and fucks another man.  Or divorce her husband.  Either one would have been a better solution than cheating.  If you truly cannot comprehend that one simple fact, than I weep for anyone unfortunate enough to enter into a relationship with you, because you have the emotional maturity of a toddler.  

That is all I will say.  I'm done with this pointless exchange, since it's clear to me that either you're truly ignorant of how healthy adult relationships work, you're a troll, or you're just an idiot.  Not really sure which at this point, although I have a small idea.  

Toodles

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And once more, you are so full of yourself that you comment on things that you don't know, first you commented on a visual novel that you didn't even read, then you answered to a comment that you didn't even read either, so you remain blissfully oblivious of how much of a pathetic arrogant fool you actually are, you ride on your big horse preaching your ignorance to people who are way wiser than you and even when they bother to share their wisdom with you, you react like a whimsical brat, "I don't wanna read, what's the point? I know better than you anyway." then you push the irony calling actual adults "toddlers", so I have only one last suggestion left for you because I am also done trying to talk sense into a petulant brat: Take a good look at yourself before you make fun of people because you might find out that you are the actual fool in the room.

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Nah I agree with Bluhdwulf.  Maxime, the fact you're on here bragging about how you let women cheat on their significant others with you is disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourself.  Marriage is supposed to be a sacred bond between two  people for life.  It is NOT something that someone should VIOLATE because they feel lonely.  You are clearly a disturbed individual and I second Bluhdwulf's suggestion that you seek therapy.  Because you are clearly making these aggressive criticisms in order to justify your shameful behavior of sleeping with committed women.  Oh wait a minute, it kinda sounds like you're trying to avoid taking responsibility for your actions.  Hmm I guess that saying is true.

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Sigh, why does everyone who answers has actually nothing clever to say? 😓

I always thought concepts such as soul-mate, other half, exclusive relationships, monogamy, marriage, unconditional love for life, to be dumb unrealistic concepts.

I'm not here to brag about anything, I'm here to criticize the hypocrisy of this author, and as expected, all hypocrites who pass around fell compelled to defend this hypocrisy in order to comfort their own.

I don't believe there is such things as people born specifically for other people and a concept such as monogamy only makes sense when you find your soul-mate and focus on them, monogamy makes no sense when there is more than one suitable partner in the world and people marry not because they love each other, the purpose of marriage is nothing as romantic as this, it is actually a lot more pragmatic and selfish, it is to claim property on each other, this is not love, this is possessiveness., therefore you are right, I don't have any sensible reason to feel any guilt in disregarding such an hypocrite concept but I expect you to disagree because you ARE hypocrite enough to defend such hypocrisy, I can tell because, like all hypocrites, you do not defend your convictions with your own arguments because these convictions are not yours to begin with, they are merely "the norm", "the standard", "the law", "the rules of society", that you were not even involved in the decision of these rules, you only blindly follow and defend them as if they were your own because you are too lazy to think on your own, question the sense of the rules that you so adamantly apply and defend, and like many other hypocrites who faced me before, you think you stand a chance to prove me wrong with your reasoning which is not even yours to begin with, you don't stand a chance to exceed me with opinions that you merely borrow from other people when I fight with my own opinions that I forged myself.

You know what is a true bond? A bond that you trust enough that you don't need to turn it into a contract to feel secure about it, THAT's what a true meaningful bond is, not this hypocritical convention that you worship and bare your fangs at someone who questions it just because you were taught to believe in it before you even had a chance to decide of your own conventions that you actually want to believe in on your own initiative.

Moreover, to believe that you can know for sure what your feelings will be for years to come is plain naivety, how old are you that you still believe in fairy tales "and they married and lived happily ever after"? I find you utterly ridiculous to defend such fairy tales' ideals as if they were adult sensible reasoning, I don't have any reason to feel ashamed of myself because I actually know what I talk about, whereas you certainly don't lack reasons to feel ashamed of yourself, which is why you are so aggressive in the first place.

Your logic is the main cause of all divorces and unhappiness in couples, because you talk as if once you sign up the contract, you don't have to do anything anymore to actually deserve your love. You claim that feeling lonely is not a good enough reason to seek company where there is some, which implies that you believe that there is no obligation to take care of each other in a marriage since you don't condemn the lack of attention which leads to the feeling of loneliness to begin with. In other words, you think that love should be unconditional, doesn't have to be deserved. And you dare question MY morals, you SELFISH HYPOCRITE?! Why do you think married women are attracted to me in the first place? Because I actually CARE about them! Whereas their husband doesn't notice them anymore because they consider them their property and don't understand that relationships are just as alive as plants: you stop nurturing them, they wither and eventually die.

I am disturbed? When I am calm and you all are the ones being emotive when you defend fake hypocrite morals? Are you trying to make me laugh? Because you sure are amusing.

Why should I seek therapy? Because I am not "normal" and I need to be "normal"? Nah, not for me, I leave being "normal" to plain boring people like you.

I don't try to justify my actions because they are actually MY own initiatives, so I know why I do them and I feel good about them, only people who don't actually understand what they do because they didn't decided by themselves need to justify their actions, just like you do.

If I didn't take responsibility for my actions, then I would not talk about them when I don't have to in the first place, don't you think? You know what I do because I told it on my own initiative, so does it seem to you that I don't assume them? 😏

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dear Maxime martyr studies have shown that you are a incompetent imbecile that loves to be right about everything. You need to go to a asylum more than me .

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Holy thread necro batman.  I totally forgot about this whole shitshow..  After re-reading it all over again. I'm fully confident that this person is a total fucking moron with nothing better to do than start shit with people online over a fucking story.  Therapy wont help this loser, the only solution for this level of aggressive stupidity is 9mm in diameter and roughly 2 inches long.  

I refuse to lower myself to this fool's level any longer.  

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Wow... I am saddened that this post reminded me that are still too many fools in this world. Max this is impressive. Thank you for making me lol for the last two days. I hope you continue.  I have played VNs for years and you made something new, a new style.  To the fools, look at how much time you have wasted in your life to type all that. Look at how much time you made others lose part of their life (and mine!). That last one is hard, to sum up, how wrong it is.