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I don't think you actually read and paid attention to the game if you genuinely think that about Ivar.

Hey. Hey what the actual FUCK WAS THAT ENDING???? HELLO???

How am I supposed be normal until season 2???

WELCOME BACKKKKKKK and thank u for the picture of the gremlin yay 

I just realized something that makes me believe this even more. (Spoiler)

If you played as a male MC in the first game, Ivar was less comfortable with you and even harsher because he is wary of men due to his curse. Yet in this game if you play the male MC, the Ivar in your dreams doesn't really react. He doesn't even act a little bit wary that his soulmate is a man.

Cain was orphaned then adopted by abusive racists who killed his older brother, and Abel's family burned to death. I'm sorry you don't think they've been through enough. 

I guess I just don't understand why you're commenting as if the game doesn't make it clear who these characters are. No one here is a fully "good" person, and I am willing to bet Florian has his own share of skeletons in the closet. I just hope you're not upset when it turns out that he's just as fucked up as the other two. The story isn't even halfway over yet afaik from the youtube interview, so we'll see.

I mean, Cain and Abel aside, MC is not a bad person unless you play them as such (and even then their most evil choice is opting to kill a corrupt cop). Also Florian has his own red flags, they just aren't as obvious as "serial killer" and "vengeful serial killer w big tits"

I think the implication is that he's bisexual with a preference for men. He is attracted to women, but it happens less frequently. Same way Ivar is also bisexual but prefers women (partly because of his curse and also personal taste). Lyall in the first game also had a preference for women (specifically older women), and Quill had a preference for men. I think Thane and Arshem were the only truly neutral bisexuals in the cast, and with Arshem I think he was just Palmier-sexual lol.

I'll have to replay it again, but the dialogue that really jumped out at me is when you (SPOILER) comfort him after the death of all your servants and he tells you not to feel too bad for him. To paraphrase, " I may be beautiful on the outside, but trust me I'm much more rotten within."

He also talks a lot about not wanting to bother any of his past friends despite clearly caring about them, saying he doesn't want anyone else to get hurt because of him, and basically being determined to do everything on his own without involving anyone else. For all his behaviour, he didn't even want to ask Lowell for help.

Honestly you created a character that is the equivalent of straight crack to me. Going absolutely feral. Shoving him in my pocket. Your writing, world building, and character dynamics are so interesting!!!

ARE YOU ME BECAUSE THE FIRST LEGIT ATE MY BRAIN, I PLAYED IT SO MUCH I WAS SEEING THE CHARACTERS IN MY DREAMS. 

For sure, Palmier definitely has a Machiavellian streak a country mile wide. The reddest flag in this game and I am simply giggling and twirling my hair. Yes king, manipulate me more. Gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss your way into my heart. 

Honestly I think he lies more to the people he loves because he's self-aware. He knows how scummy his behaviour is, especially since this is after the first game and he got to meet his literal "better half". A version of him that basically swooped in and, in the span of a few weeks, essentially solved most of his world's issues, helped a ton of people, was super nice and friendly, and is now off gallivanting in a healthy loving relationship with the man Palmier basically manipulated into a relationship. Even his best intentions (e.g., bonding with Kor to try and end her suffering) ended up causing more problems. 

I read his backstory and I think his low self esteem is also worsened by his backstory being revealed to be Seth's kid, meaning he's a witch (the thing everyone hates) and a child of assault by deception (if Seth disguised himself to trick his mom). Palmier hates himself a lot, in my opinion anyway. He knows he sucks, and definitely blames himself for a lot (both things he was and was not responsible for), and I think that's also why he posed as Ivar. Because he genuinely believes we wouldn't have fallen for him as himself even if we were soulmates. 

Palmier: "Just be myself? The bitch who got me into this mess????"

But he still couldn't help himself lmao. Like boy you are not being subtle???? A bite on our ring finger???? You couldn't have calmed down for a hot second after breaking into our hospital room where we (technically) just met????? Then getting jealous of himself (probably meaning he's actually jealous of the suitors). "Wow Palmier, you're an intense kind of lover huh?" So possessive. I need him.

I do wonder if, since he's only technically a half-Witch, the whole bonding thing is different with him. After all he was human for a much longer time and no one was aware, and the siren said that Witches can't truly love. However, Ivar states multiple times that he's loved the women he partnered with in the past and ultimately does love his children. So I wonder what the truth is and how that affects Palmier.

I am deadass obsessed w Palmier at this point and I'm just theorizing here, but suspect he chose to do that because:

1. First, it would be easier to convince us to throw our life away if we were doing it to save the one we loved. Ivar was the one being held captive. Hhe probably thought it would be a greater emotional pull rather than us just being an accessory to help Palmier.
2. Second, Palmier has abysmal self esteem. Like he talks a big game about being a charming harlot who has so much sex and flirts with literally everyone ooooh, but then you read his dialogue and it's like. Sweetie have you considered therapy? He probably believed we'd never fall for him as himself, better to pose as the hot witch DILF.

If I recall, you can meet Winston after you get the guard (Werner?) to ditch his post, which gives you access to Alexei's area upstairs. That's where he is.

SPOILERS

I FUCKING CALLED IT. I watched Yinny's video of the demo and I was like "huh. Palmier's acting weird lol wouldn't it be crazy if he was like. already in love with us and that's why his conditions for romance are left blank?" AND THEN I CAME HERE.

At the time I thought it was just wishful thinking on my part because I have adored Palmier's design (and now his personality) since the first game and I wanted him to be dateable so badly. The deception is so delicious yes give me the drama!!!!!

Now I'm wondering about my other theory, which is that Alexei actually does care about us but in a super toxic way. Because a lot of characters make it clear that he's awful and murderous, but in that case why hasn't he just killed us? Instead his grand evil plan is to...have us get married to someone we choose (out of pre-chosen options but still) so we die at the ripe old age? And then our other cousins suggest that this is just Alexei's idea of a joke, he'll probably just murder our betrothed in a week and hand-feed us their heart? I'm sorry what the fuck? 

That said those cousins were allegedly incestuous so idk if we can trust their idea of normal healthy family relationships

Wait but now I'm wondering why the werewolf's flower is black when he acts so nice to us?! On god we cannot trust anyone in this house!!! Except Osgar and Till, sweethearts (stay away from my feet).

This was so fun, insanely good work and I cannot wait for more!

Your honour I am going to eat him. He's so fgwdvjhkscajlnxm I NEED HIM BIBLICALLY XERO HOW DID YOU DO THIS. This man is like actual crack to me. Full on jingling keys in front of me and I am transfixed. I need to bite him.

me escaping through a window with a suspiciously Palmier shaped lump in my jacket

Caym my beloved I am going to bite you in half (affectionate)

Not Emily and Jose, girl I can't stand you but please even you don't deserve this. I will find you a normal respectful man who doesn't howl loudly in public.

Also I created different accounts for each LI and when I got to Abel ahhhhhhhhh he was so sweet I may be wavering in my Florian bias. Honestly I love them all but Abel's lines in chapters 11 and 12 had me deadass biting my fist. This man is lucky he's not real. 

He's so dedicated too lmao the was talking about putting aside his whole revenge plot to date me I was like babe wtf no your bloody quest for murder is so sexy haha please do not seek mentally healthy solutions I need you to lock the fuck in.

"It would kill me if you saw me covered in blood again" BUT WHAT IF I WANT TO. WHAT IF I THINK IT'S HOT WHEN A PRETTY BUFF MAN IS DRENCHED IN BLOOD. WHAT THEN.

As much as I agree with some of what you said, such as the MC having more opportunities to speak their mind, your comments are like 90% complaints and how much you hate most of the characters. Considering that this is supposed to be a romantic visual novel, it does beg the question of why you bothered playing if you apparently can't stand the love interests. Obviously this is a public forum so you can say what you want, but like...I think you'd be happier if you played a different game or created your own.. 

This was such a good game? So short yet so impactful I really felt like I'd brushed w something divine while talking with This One. 

Especially at the end when he was like "teehee see u later darling, guess i won't eat you right now lol" and i was like i beg thine blessed pardon???? that was an option?????

That's so sweet omgggggg thank you so much!!!

I love this game so much every single character is endearing and/or entertaining in the best way possible. I love every choice we get to make, even the ones that are obviously wrong lmao

That's because those examples are not dating sims. Visual novel =/= dating sim, it's just the format. TouchStarved is explicitly labelled and marketed as a gothic romance with sexual content, that's the genre, ergo there is no ace route. Speaking as someone who is ace as well, not everything is for everyone and that's okay. You can choose not to play the game.

HELP glad i'm not the only one who got that vibe

Thank you for the clarification! Follow up, does the romance have to be reciprocated or even acknowledged by the love interest, or can I just have the MC pining?

Hi, would it be alright if the player character is the one that's non-human rather than the love interest?

I need him so badly u don't understand. Lord forgive me I am about to fold like bad origami for yet another hot blonde yandere with superpowers ♥️♥️♥️

Spoiler below

Listen MC, I know he kidnapped our mom and has been linked to multiple murders and violent crimes, but tbh our mom's fine and we didn't like the other guys soooooo 

i love him but ohhhhh my god he's so stupid help. I am going to firmly but lovingly push him off a cliff. mwah

Jack: Omg I can't believe u were about to leave me! Why does everyone always leave me??????

MC who woke up being lowkey assaulted and is currently being used like an ashtray: Bruh

This was so???? The emotions I felt while playing were so deep. Usually I'm able to separate myself from the MC in visual novels but I actually found myself genuinely empathizing with the MC more. How they felt losing their spouse, seeing the love they felt for Original!Seto. I expected him to be a Lost Lenore type, a faceless, vaguely perfect background backstory to add angst. But I actually felt so sad seeing their life before, how we loved him and he loved us so genuinely. To the point that when Android!Seto showed up and his textbox said "Moonlight" I was immediately like "MY HUSBAND CALLS ME STARLIGHT!"

Impeccable writing.

Also hats off to the VAs, chef's kiss to everyone. Especially Felix and ENVI. When Original!Seto talks you can practically see the fondness in every word which really contributed to making me fall for him (rip honey i'm sorry i banged your android but in my defense. it's 2025 I had to fulfil the prophecy)

I am so looking forward to whatever comes next!!!

I would commit actual felonies for Delal. My wife. The way I nearly started a riot when that scene happened?????? AND WHEN SHE SAID "I long for you" PLEASEEE 

That shit had me kicking the air, giggling like a dumbass, twirling my hair. It was embarrassing help

RIGHT??? Why does he get to lose one ear but I have to lose a whole-ass leg?????? AND WITH A CLEAVER TOO YA'LL COULDN'T SPLURGE ON A CHAINSAW AT LEAST? Smh Maverick I thought u loved me

This is so beautiful omfg CAMILLE!!!!!!

Ngl I know which ending is the unambiguously "Good" option but like. Is it wrong that I prefer Ending 2? Fix them? Nah. Make them worse. Make them so much worse. I am the wife now.

I also love the background characters too. The implied story with Adela ad Dorado, Pascal too. It's such a fantastic self-contained plot that leaves room for imagination.

This game reminds me of that Edgar Allan Poe story The Oval Portrait, where an artist becomes so obsessed with painting his wife to detail that she dies while sitting for a portrait and he doesn't notice for literal weeks.

I love every single character. Hand in marriage right now. Hand them over

Really though, I love the premise and the writing. I adore Katieeee my beloved, and the characters are all so engaging!!! Especially Griffin! Gonna smooch 'em.

Damn this game is so good. I want to gush about everything the art the music the UI the plot!!!! But rn in the most respectful and normal way possible, I want to make it clear that am about to become everyone's new stepmother. Idc if Pride is a little evil, as long as he pats me gently on the head and tells me I'm doing a good job

idk what the writers put in Elio but he is like actual crack to me. handcrafted in a lab to end me specifically. i love this entire demo, you guys did AMAZING

BITING BITING BITING I AM CLAWING AND SCREAMING I AM FIGHTING DEMONS FR

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ok i'm normal again. please ignore the blood and scratches. i can be trusted w cute goth eldritch men pls

oscar how are u. how. how do u. hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i'm not okay

theoooooooooo i would die for u honey

as i said in my the discord channel, this house may be haunted af and i may be experiencing horrifying visions that send me into manic writing episodes that last for days on end, but more importantly. aster are u free tonight???

with enough confidence and panache i believe we can one day smooch the horrors

Thank you so much for writing this. Hanahaki disease has always been a touchy subject for me as a grey aroace. The idea of someone falling in love and then blaming me for making them sick, the fact that it is a trope that pretty much explicitly states "PLATONIC LOVE IS WORTHLESS HERE. FAMILIAL LOVE IS WORTHLESS HERE. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KISS THIS PERSON YOU MIGHT AS WELL SIGN THEIR WILL AND TESTAMENT RIGHT NOW". The guilt that it inspires worse than the claims that already exist in the real world. That someone having a crush on you means you MUST give them a chance because if not you're a horrible human.

My favourite scene was the depiction of the cycle. Abuse, gifts, abuse, gifts, never speaking, never confronting, the sibling trying to help you see past the fear and repetition. It got to the point that my own memory irl began to blur. Haven't I read this already? How long has it been? Am I rewinding scenes? What is happening? Is this all there is?

And then Ending 4, gashkls god that took me out. I think I cried a bit. I need to sit with this for a while.

Me looking at the 7ft tall obsessive monster with an axe: I see no issues here, we shall have a summer wedding