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Ventiscogreen

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Easier said than done, but not the worst idea. It's.... complicated. 

Nothing good. 

Thank you for posting updated guidelines. 


They suck, but that's the situation we are in.

A helpful site with a bunch of information for making calls, contacting politicians, and otherwise endeavoring to reverse this atrocious policy by payment processors if not prevent it from happening again. 


https://stop-paypros.neocities.org/

Hey so yeah, this is just sexist nonsense.

I only engaged on the hope that people were just unaware of the lore and internal struggles of these movements, but you're just spouting bigoted crap in bad faith and ignoring literally the entire brief history lesson I tried to provide to sit in that hate.

And for the record, Collective Shout received support from Republican based religious extremists orgs as well as similar international conservative orgs during this recent campaign, particularly Morality in Media (renamed for propaganda reasons to National Center on Sexual Exploitation). Collective Shout is also aggressively anti-abortion.

Which, I already explained the history of why SWERFs are joined at the hip to conservative anti-porn groups. But I figure I'll add that clarification of the facts for anyone reading, because you have a clear and frankly hateful agenda that I'm not going to discourage you from. 

Join the people calling and emailing payment processors to complain. Politely mind, but still complaining.

Practically speaking, encouraging everyone still watching this thread to especially call and contact Stripe today. Be polite, but tell them you'll be avoiding their services if they continue making it difficult for customers to make legal purchases. 

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Legal advice says FUCKING NO and you should probably delete this. 

The ulterior motive is this sort of payment neutrality also means hate groups can't be blocked by payment processors unless the actively do illegal shit. 


You kinda have to make that judgement call if you think that's an acceptable cost for keeping porn from being censored. 

Of course, there's nothing stopping these payment processors from continuing to ban porn while allowing hate groups to exchange funds as tolerating hate has recently become more popular. It's entirely their whim we're up to. 


It's a shitty situation to make a choice on, but personally I don't like all of this being subject to the whims of private companies who can be swayed by a thousand weirdos. That's just madness making. 

This isn't the attitude of most feminists, that's just weird GGer rhetoric. 


No, these are weirdos. There was an event in political history called the feminist sex wars where most people took pretty normal attitudes about things and then a group of hardliners with dogshit opinions decided sex workers were "hurting the cause" and porn was "inherently degrading towards women". These people ended up teaming up with Christian extremists to push anti-porn laws, but have been an increasingly shrinking political fringe group most people don't take seriously in feminist spaces or are actively hostile towards in those spaces. 


It's why the group was only able to get about a thousand people internationally to commit to this call and email campaign; because they're fucking losers. 


BUT this group carries on the tradition of working with extremist Christian lobbying groups that are much larger. Also probably helps the group is weirdly anti-abortion, which is a hot take that will get you in DEEP shit with most feminists. 


In feminist circles, these people are called SWERFs. Sex Exclusionary Radical Feminists. The group also works with a publication that are called TERFs, Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists. These people are not welcome in most modern feminist circles. They are, however, really fucking loud and really willing to work with far right groups to signal boost their bullshit. 


Which is to say, this isn't a reason men are going down alt-right type pipelines. It never has been. And most people would love if SWERFs would shut the fuck up. We're in this hell together. 

Posting that update without telling people the guidelines these payment processors have is the fucking devil's work. Everyone is already rightfully pissed off about this situation, there is no reason to be opaque about what your new unofficial content policies are. 


Because you have effectively made enforcing these guidelines your policy. 


So at least tell your users what these new guidelines and policies to be enforced are for each payment processor. That way users can make informed decisions about what content to publish or seek to purchase on this site. Or at least what payment methods to no longer support. 

Collective Shout, an extremist anti-pornography group, has been on a bit of a tear lately working with other organizations to pressure payment processors and merchants by extension to remove adult content. Often relying on misinformation about the titles in question. 


I just want to say I encourage Itch to push back against such pressure if these groups and their nonsense show up at the digital doorstep. 


Adult content deserves a platform, and these organizations and payment processors shouldn't be given this kind of censorship power without pushback. 


If all fails I would rather have to deal with using Cashapp or something to pay for games here than give any more ground to these weirdos. 


And best believe, this kind of harassment will certainly evolve into calls for further censorship. It's how these political groups operate. 

That's messed up. (Compliment)

Toxic yandere romance with a creepy guy?
Toxic yandere romance with a creepy guy. 

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