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Thank you for taking the time to play.

The goal of the game is not to be simple but rather to be believable and to immerse the player in its world. 

After you beat the signpost puzzle the game never again locks your progress behind having to solve anything. You actually went through the entire content progression without any issues which was more important as feedback. It's interesting you mentioned Obra Dinn since it works in the same way -- You can get through that entire game without solving a single death but then you lose the game at the end. I have watched people go through the entirety of Obra Dinn while only solving 10 fates so this is not new to me.

I've noticed that players have a tendency not to engage with the Case Notebook too much. I think that's on me and I will try to make it more engaging and compelling to solve things there, since that is the main gameplay focus, but at the same time different players play games in different ways and I have started to be more aware which types of players are my target audience and which types will never become complex puzzle fans no matter what I change.

Good luck on releasing Little Locked Rooms.

I enjoyed it. Graphically it looks nice and the gameplay loop looks like it has promise so I'm looking forward to when the environment interactions are a bit more developed.

I liked that playing with fire is a balancing act where it has to be close enough to you to grow but not too close so that you burn yourself. I think when the flame is far away from you it should do almost no damage otherwise it's unfair to the enemies.

Would be better if the flame produced more light even when it's smaller and farther away from the player. It would make it easier to get oriented. As it is right now it's not possible to get a good light while walking.

Wind simulation is impressive and the grass physics are cool. I'm not sure if it's intentional but the wind can be used to give the player a speed boost. 

Don't know if there was any point to the weird multicoloured patches of ground.

The music is not grating but repetitive which could discourage from playing for longer periods.

Yeah, I did play the version that was first submitted to Demo Day. I just jumped into that one because I already had it downloaded.

> the loot that the sranc drop is meant to be low quality junk.

That's alright, but I think the problem is more that the items have so many stats that are hard to follow that it makes it tedious to have to wonder which items are better than others. If the items dropped by Sranc are supposed to be trash then consider reducing their buffs even more. For example the Sranc helm which I assume is supposed to be a basic trash helm has a list of 10 buffs and debuffs on it which makes a player wonder if there's anything special about it, instead of making it immediately clear that it's a trash helm with almost no use value. Item tooltips seem to suffer from information bloat. Not every item needs to have a billion stats and a whole essay of information. If you keep it sparse for the unremarkable items and scale it up based on how rare the item is, it communicates better to the player which items are really worth paying attention to.

The lore snippets on the items are a great touch, but since the tooltips are badly positioned and unintuitive in the information they give it discourages the player from reading through the whole thing to even get to the flavour text. Tooltips should definitely resize with the text.

> i wanted to make my dream game from the start and didn't want to make anything else

I hope you know what you're doing. Developers like you are an inspiration because of your passion and ambition but this could easily turn out to be yet another case of dreaming too big and getting burned out from the scope. Would gladly play it again in the future as long as it keeps improving.

This is jank, and not the good kind. I'll start off by saying that I've never played the Dark Souls games or any games like that. I don't like games of that type but I do like Dungeon Siege and Diablo so you can take all this with a grain of salt. Feel free to ignore anything that you think I've misinterpreted about your game or your intentions for the game.

OVERVIEW

First off, out of every single game this Demo Day, this seems to be the one that unambiguously has the most impressive production value, presentation, and sheer scope. Even judged against other Demo Days it's still in the top 10. The game successfully captured a very fitting atmosphere. The cutscenes at the beginning are very well made and wouldn't feel out of place in a AAA game from 2002. The UI art looks very stylish. These things are a good reason to give the game a break over its many shortcomings, but they also set the expectations enormously high. The intro sets you up for a complete and polished experience, and then the game starts...

This is the most bug-ridden game I have ever played. Somehow that never resulted in a crash or anything serious breaking, but there's so many bugs here that I don't even think it's possible to cover half of them. The game's most impressive accomplishment is also its biggest shortcoming -- it's clear that the game's development focus has been on content development when it would have been much wiser to first ensure to make the gameplay as bug-free as possible. The scope is grand, but it's easy to forget that even AAA studios with thousands of employees struggle with the sort of thing you're trying to do here. It's admirable, but the mountain of bugs speaks for itself. The fact that you manged to pull off a working 3D combat system is great. The fact that you implemented over 10 distinct classes is great. The fact that your presentation is outstanding is great, but it feels like your priorities are backwards. To me it seems that you should get a single class working without any problems before you start adding the other 10.

PRESENTATION AND GRAPHICS

Presentation and graphics are amazing if looked at on a macro scale. The individual models, animations, UI design decisions, and so forth are questionable. They get the job done as temporary assets.

If the lore presented in the game is anything to off this might be one of the most unique and unconventional fantasy worlds I have seen. Using something that unique as a base for an straightforward action game where the lore is nothing but background flavour seems like a massive waste. There are no opportunities to engage with the story. The dialogue system is clunky and sparsely used. The choice to put the dialogue box at the top of the screen is baffling and makes the dialogue screen unpleasant to use. The (click to continue) prompt requires you to click on the text itself rather than to just click anywhere -- the wording is misleading. Sometimes the continue dialogue option is (click to continue). Other times it's just (continue).

I don't understand the obsession with taking the deepest most fleshed out fictional worlds and making action games or movies out of them.

The rock theme in the intro doesn't fit the game.

Not a fan of the depth of field blur. It makes the game look cheap.

Breakable containers are nice but the way they shatter looks weird.

The tooltips that you get in the item and character menus are positioned in a nonsense way and seem way too big for their purpose.

The eyes option during character creation doesn't appear to do anything. For this sort of zoomed-out game a "face" option would be much more appropriate. That's besides the option for facial hair.

Hair looks strange but then you notice the transparency effect that it uses can be seen almost everywhere. I don't understand why it's made that way because it doesn't look good.

GAMEPLAY

When you're creating a character for the first time you are given 0 information what each stat does or what they affect. This is a horrible game design mistake that turns off people who actually like these types of games immediately, since they are left to guess.

Why are the controls only viewable in the tutorial starting area? Ideally you should be able to look over an overview of the controls at any time, especially for a game that uses more than 5 keys.

I'm not sure if the tutorial works. It tells you some specific controls like the jump in a good contextual moment (when you actually need to use the jump to get over the tecnch), but a lot of the tutorial text just seems placed at random intervals and can easily be overlooked. The first few popups just show up one after the other. The tutorial does nothing to teach you about the significance of the character screen or the upgrades there, or even the character skills as a whole. It's very easy to completely forget the skills exist with some classes.

The loot drop system is bad. I'm going to assume this is probably how the Souls games do it but this type of loot drop approach is usually associated with MMORPGs where they do it out of efficiency. Dungeon Siege and Diablo have much better drop-pickup systems and while those systems are more complicated to implement they compliment the flow of gameplay much better and help avoid the type of confusion that the Great Ordeal creates when you have 100 enemy drops stacked in the same 50 square centimeters. The fact that interaction targets are automaticlaly selected and very difficult to control by the player makes in even more diffcult to target a specific loot container which means some loot might not be even possible to get to unless you also pick up all the loot around it first. I just stopped caring about the loot after a while, and this is a bad sign, since your primary audience with this game is loot junkies so if you can't appeal to them with more clarity in the loot system it's a huge missed opportunity.

The level layout is extremely jagged with a lot of steep inclines. Given that the character doesn't seem to be able to climb slopes too easily this makes traversal frustrating and sometimes makes you wonder if you're even supposed to be going the way you're going.

The combat feels nice to engage in occasionally and there's definitely the foundation for something good there but it's completely broken and spastic in its current state. Constant rubberbanding; lag spikes every time there's more than 40 npcs on screen; lack of any clear difficulty progression -- the way the gameplay works right now is just constant trial-and-error. There's nothing particularly challenging or strategic about the gameplay loop and there's nothing particularly satisfying about the combat encounters besides the enjoyment of dispatching the enemies one by one, and watching the occasional head fly off.

Enemies spawning out of thin air in the tutorial is obnoxious and doesn't look right. Consider having them run out of some kind of tunnel or something similar

The way that enemies spawn is ridiculous. The player is close enough when it happens that it's extremely obvious they generated out of a single point you see them rubber band away from each other.

BUGS AND ISSUES

Too many to list, but I will mention the ones that stood out to me the most.

Visual glitches constantly. Animation poses don't load sometimes. Skyboxes turn black sometimes.

The game makes my PC's fan enter overdrive mode. This is standard with Unity when the FPS cap is removed in the editor but I have never seen it happen on a game build until now.

The intro doesn't end on its own. You have to skip it manually once the cutscene ends.

The interaction prompt is weirdly coded. It shows up when you're 1-2 meters away from the thing you need to interact with but not when you're standing right next to it. Sometimes you can't get it to appear and have to move around like a crazy person trying to activate something.In some very rare cases clicking the interact button when the prompt is visible on screen does nothing and you have to leave the interaction range and come back. I remember this happening with the map at the camp. Interactions in general are really unreliable since some times you can't seem to even get some of them to activate the prompt, so you're blocked from interacting with them.

You can't enter the menu when character is locked-on to an enemy and a lot of times when you are in combat in general. Ignore if intentional.

Characters switching to T-pose for a few frames every time they are switched on the "continue" screen.

Opening the battle summons screen makes the cursor disappear your only option is to back out with ESC.

After you change your hair from bald to any hairstyle for the first time you can no longer go back to bald. The character model is stuck with a basic hairstyle while creating a character. It's possible that the default setting is not supposed to be bald but that is another bug also and it just activates the default hair for the first time only after you switch hairstyles.

During the intro cutscene the character controller is working and you can hear your character attacking when you click.

Exiting a save and reopening it changes the time of day. You can exit in the middle of the day and when you come back it's early morning. Why? Speaking of which the transitions between the times of day happen instantly which gives a strange impression.

One time when I loaded into the world the game was stuck in "cutscene" mode for some reason. This is just loading into the world, no cutscene was played before that. I could still control the player character but the UI was disabled, there wa a "skip" button in the corner, and all interactions were blocked until I clicked space to skip.

At all other times opening some menus (such as the map selection screen) which seem like they should freeze the character controller also allowed me to just use attacks and skills to my heart's content while the screen was open.

After jumping into the first "mission" a dialogue interaction is displayed but you can walk around while it's on screen. I don't think you should be able to move around while in dialogue. When the point captures happen this also starts dialogue interactions but in those cases you're in the middle of combat usually so you almost immediately click out of dialogue by accident or don't even have time to read anything because you're being attacked.

The healthbar of every single enemy that has taken even the slightest amount of damage is permanently visible no matter how far away from them you go. It doesn't seem like it should be that way.

You can still hear the outdoor sounds of rain and the horn ambiece while you are inside the Nonman's Well

The levers start twitching after you use them.

Broken or missing display on the geography underlay of the minimap in some locations.

The summons just keep hitting the air after there's no more enemies to kill.

Some enemies spawn stuck in the level geometry. This is the Scrancs at the bottom of the Nonman's Well and the big guy enemy in the first level.

Odd choice to allow players to access the missions after the first two considering they are unfinished levels.

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Great work on what you're accomplished but the issues need a lot of attention. The game's scale is grand but the polish and attention to quality is not there.

Interesting. It's smaller than the old test area.

GAMEPLAY

It's extremely weird that the game has no main menu or pause menu or any consideration for user accessibility. Did the game have menus before? I don't remember.

I think the old test course did a much better job to show players what the game is about. I think it would have been a good idea to keep it in the game while this area is being worked on.

The character feels nice to control. The different items are cool but some don't seem to have a clear use at the moment. If this is supposed to become some kind of environment puzzle game I can see it working.

Combat is alright. Mostly stems from the fact that the game controls nicely. The controls are intuitive and I don't have any problems with having to remind myself what does what. The reaction you get when an enemy damages you is juicy.

VISUAL

It's nice to see the game finally getting some actual environments.

The art direction is outstanding. One of the best looking games here and I think it's mostly due to the lighting. Animations, models, etc are all good quality. It seems like you've been focusing a lot on the juice since the game already has a lot of particle effects.

The stone castle/cyberpunk mix is an original setting idea and I think it can be very effective to attract players.

BUGS AND ISSUES

Game is technically sound but it's obvious that the level has been rushed to get it out on time which is why it lacks any limitations for players. The player can just jump out of the level if he walks down some paths like the blast doors at the start.

Falling out of the level doesn't even kill you. Would be convenient if it at least respawned you to the beginning so that it doesn't force you to close and reopen the game every time.

The item selection wheel doesn't track the mouse properly. It seems to always be off-target, and when you try to force it in a certain direction it starts twitching like crazy.

Cat just glues itself to you once you get near it and follows you around like that forever. Not sure if that's the intention but it's strange.

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There's not much to say yet really. Systems are solid but no content yet on which to give feedback. The game works.

Another day, another Dirk...

I wasn't as impressed by part 2 as much as I was with part 1. Taking into account it's a work in progress but I'm gonna go over my impressions.

GAMEPLAY

Part 2 has a much bigger focus on platforming, combat, and action, something which wasn't that big of a focus in the last version. This is good, since the parts of the game which were easily overlooked last time were put front and center this time which helps get a better sense of them. Helps you to get feedback on those things but it has its own problems which I'll explain later.

Not a fan of how the combat works. Goblins are extremely aggressive which means that there is very little actual player skill or stat-dependency involved. The only way to fight is to spam the attack, which works even if you only have 1 in strength. Doing anything else allows the goblins to strike back, costing you precious health points.

I'm assuming strength makes your hits deal more damage while agility makes you swing faster, but I don't think the basic enemy should be that annoying to deal with. The easiest, most common enemy type should really be less dangerous otherwise the game turns into kiting and looking for exploits. Having the goblins be that mobile and fast teaches you to avoid combat more than anything.

Having an enemy that behaves in this way would still be a good encounter for the game, just not for the "easiest" most common enemy type which is also the only enemy type which you can use to teach yourself how combat works. It's an unnecessary difficulty spike, and a very frustrating progress block when every single goblin you meet somehow manages to hit you at least once before you can stunlock him.

Would have liked if there was some way to restore health instead of having to die and restart to restore it every time. You don't have to make it common or even a consumable. Just some sort of "fountain of life" that you can find every few screens would be nice so you can restore yourself there after you've progressed through a bunch of enemies.

There wasn't all that much dialogue compared to last time, which is a shame since the dialogue has a lot of personality and is fun to go through.

Content density on this one was pretty sparse. Much bigger levels with much less to do in them, and more walking between points of interest. Very few interactions.

The stat boost items were a nice addition, but when combined with the skill point consumables they become extremely OP. Either the consumables' effects should run out after a while or there should be some other way to prevent the player from becoming a maxed out God.

ROLEPLAYING

I don't think the game should require the player to max out all his skills to beat a specific part of it. It takes away from the most interesting quality the game has. The game plays more like a metroidvania than it does an RPG and if that's your intention then you can ignore this.

Since the second adventure has such a strong focus on platforming and combat it feels like a completely different game which neglects everything that makes Dirk special. There were no item puzzles, no dialogue puzzles, and barely any use for intelligence, charm, or stealth. This version felt like it either required you to already have gained extra skill points from the first adventure or to use the free potions, which I assumed were supposed to have been a sort of easy mode cheat, but so far I have not found a way to beat it without using the potions. The end of part 2 is locked behind a requirement to have at least 4 or 5 in agility, and as far as I could tell there is no way to finish it with any other skill.

The one single use for intelligence that I came across (the cook book) was probably my favourite part of the whole demo since it was the one thing that had an element of RPG gameplay in it. I think it would be interesting if going forward intelligence was used multiple times to discover new recipes and get specific items that way.

I don't think there is any way to beat the second adventure with 0 skills. I really liked that part about the previous version. I don't think it needs to be done again but it would still show good RPG design if it was still possible to beat the whole thing with just 1 skill point in a single skill (it would just be harder - like an extra challenge for players who want that).

The game needs more stat-locked interactions, items, areas, and etc (and not just locked behind agility). That's the best thing it's got going about it in my opinion. It's a good hook for RPG enjoyers if it's implemented right.

BUGS AND ISSUES

Everything worked fine on the first try when trying the second passage on the updated version. Didn't even need to use the new setting.

After using the attack a few times the character controller occasionally freezes. Can't jump and can't move. Hitting attack again usually breaks out of this lock.

Fighting goblins pushes them out of bounds all the time. Also that specific area with the three crates requires you to have both 2 in agility and in strength to get out of, which is baffling.

Getting into dialogue or opening the inventory while blinking after respawning freezes the transparency animation until you close the UI.

After getting Agility 4 it's ridiculous easy and even unavoidable to jump through the level geometry.

Got the blue screen twice -- once when going into windowed and trying to shrink the screen size when it was already at the minimum size, and once while spamming the attack button really hard when the stamina was at its lowest. First one was easy to replicate. Not sure about the second.

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The game is amazing and I hope you have some good ideas on where you're taking it.

Thank you as always for the detailed and extensive analysis.

Passage bug: Downloaded the game, ran the game, put no points into anything just ran straight for the second passage - still happening, Transition animation runs and then the screen just stays black. Can't see anything except black screen. Music is still running. Tried all keys; nothing works except for the 1 and 2 keys which resize the game window.

Dialogue bug: When my charm is at 1  and strength is at 2 I get both dialogue options. When my charm is at 2 I only get the "get away from me beggar" version of the option. Doesn't seem right.

Happy to see Dirk back.

Unfortunately, a bug blocked me from trying the new content. Trying to enter the second adventure just turns the screen black and the music loops while nothing happens. None of the controls do anything while in this state. It just stays stuck on the black screen until you close the game. Restarting the game and trying again gives the same result.

Only thing I can report is that in the dialogue with Sophie both of the options are unlocked at the same time. This is with no points put into charisma. It allows you to play both the regular dialogue and the "get away from me" dialogue.

Also the coloured speech text to differentiate speakers is a nice addition. Really helps.

Thank you muchly. The streamlining of the introductory puzzle was necessary since it was never the intention to needlessly obstruct players. It acts as a soft tutorial and I think it's much more important to teach the players to explore, rather than teach them to look for obtuse secrets. Hidden pathways might be better used for extra secrets to reward curiosity, not so much to bottleneck progress in the tutorial area of the game.

Field studies are supposed to be unlocked entry by entry in the full game (when each one becomes a theoretical factor). They are never dumped all at once and there's not that many total.

The reason for the picture note is that Mike B is illiterate. So to make communication more efficient for when they might not be in the same place, they came up with a symbol system and started leaving each other notes in this code. It's never stated outright, just implied, but it might be mentioned eventually if it becomes relevant to the investigation.

Noted all the other stuff and thank you again!

That really means a lot since the seed that started this idea 16 years ago was exactly Syberia. It feels unreal to hear someone compare my game to it. Also it's nice to see that people actually catch the fact that the game is a point-and-click game at its heart, just one that works differently.

Obra Dinn is more obvious. That was the game where it finally clicked and the idea turned into an actual vision.

Starting with a warning that I'm incredibly biased since this game appeals to me, personally.

The game is technically impressive considering that it's a custom engine. I don't think it's something that players are going to care about but I'm taking it into consideration. I understand just enough to understand the level of complexity that went into the dialogue system or some of the interaction update mechanics. The fact that the
game came out on the other end as even just the foundation for a solid gaming experience is impressive.

When I hear that a game is a zero combat game I know to expect something special. I like stat-dependent progression. I think the use of the skill types is applied very well within the limited scope of the game. Beat the game and will definitely try different stat builds.

OLD-SCHOOL GAME DESIGN

I admire this game for being faithful to its retro vibe but I always try to bring attention to outdated game design conventions when I can. If your intention is to convey that with your game then just use this feedback as a general pointer on how it's being perceived. I do the same thing so I know the dilemma between authentic retro mechanics and overly-modernized mechanics simplified for the convenience of the player is a constant game design question.

The observation display at the bottom is a great mechanic, it just seems very easy to overlook a lot of the time since it's tucked away in the corner like that. Maybe there could be some kind of blinking colour indicator there to attract a player's attention when something is being "observed". Maybe pause that system from showing those messages while the thought chatter window is running, since it divides the attention of the player.

Interaction mechanics are a little clunky and since the little interaction window is tucked away in the upper left corner you instinctively just forget it's there all the time and try walking while it's still open.

Inventory is just a tiny bit obtuse given that using items doesn't require the player to select them or equip them in any way and the interactions just appear in the interaction selection automatically. Would be nice if that was clearer.

In the few places where you get information about you goal (making the fuel), after inspecting the instructions once, it updates to a new inspection text and you can never read the exact instructions again. Would be nice to be able to read the list of things you're looking for as many times as needed, to at least remind yourself what you're missing.

All things considered the game actually dodges some age old problems pretty skillfully -- this is stuff like the point-and-click game moon logic problem where you never know what to do next. Never had that problem here. But then again this demo was pretty straightforward so it's something to be more careful with when the game grows in scope and complexity.

Going to test how much the run changes based on stats.

TECHNICAL

Got no serious bugs. No system issues after the resolution issue was patched.

Flashlight's light looks kinda weird but I think it might be as good as it needs to be for that level of graphical fidelity.

Some manual errors in interaction scripting but nothing that broke the game.

SOUND AND MUSIC

The copyrighted music is cool, but very distracting, especially for this kind of gameplay. I agree that the royalty free is a lot more generic and boring but that allows for better concentration and better awareness when playing. The copyrighted music is still a fitting pick but feels like it should be reserved for specific moments rather than used as a main loop.

The vibe of the game is completely different depending on the track. The first one sound a bit more somber and atmospheric the second one is very arcadey and energetic. Depends what the game is going for.

The protagonist TTS voiceover is also pretty distracting. I think it's still a good idea to have some kind of brief sound effect for the
protagonist's thoughts, but complete sound clips for every line seems like overkill unless the game is normally voice acted or uses softer sounds that aren't as hostile towards the ears.

Text-heavy games should do everything possible to settle down the mind of the player and remove any unnnecessary distractions during reading time.

SETTING AND WRITING

Enjoyed it because I just love exploration interaction adventures. Scenario seems like something I would come up with, and it's a promising start to an interesting adventure. 

Writing was clever. Gets too clever in some places but that's up to taste.

Want more. And thank you again for the great stream.

So here we go again....

The game was a lot more fun to play this time around. I don't know if it's because the interactions were more fleshed out of just because I figured out how to navigate the game's logic better but it's something I noticed. The experience felt more coherent and it's interesting to experiment to find out what approaches the game accounted for.

Some cases still gave away their information out of order it seemed. In both Sandy Loam and the sea storm case the suspects just  casually mentioned critical evidence that I hadn't brought up or even learned about yet.

Generally speaking I like the humorous tone of the game. It's a nice contrast to the black-and-white noir presentation and the morbid cases you're investigating. I think the format of storytelling you're using works well. I have nitpicks with the writing, but those don't seem critical enough to ruin the game.

Realizing that your name appears in the main menu title was a nice surprise.

Mentalist case was a breeze. Don't know what the deal is with that cockroach freak and I don't think I can crack it. In the evidence entry for that case the text cuts off so maybe there's some information there I needed but did not have.

Main issues I still have are still with the UI.
- Main menu buttons still take two clicks to activate
- Clicking  the "Notes" button when at the desk closes the game
- When opening the "Evidence" screen the last page you had opened will briefly flash on screen before it switches to the actual first evidence entry. Not gamebreaking but bad for presentability.
- When flipping through the evidence reaching the last item will not automatically make the "next" button inactive - it needs to be pressed again to deactivate

This is a little misleading since one of the cases absolutely requires you to make the suspect emotional to get any kind of response. Unless there's a second way I never thought about. I don't know.

I'm assuming that you already reached the game's content scope, so it would be a good idea at this point to move the focus to polishing the content and the user experience.

I was looking forward to trying this but windows had other plans.

When I start the game it puts my character in the corner of the screen. I'm assuming that this is windows' fault since that seems like the obvious explanation. I tried resizing the window in different ways. I tried just opening the game and not resizing the window in any way. Nothing changes. I can walk around and interact with stuff but I can't see what I'm interacting with and I can walk off screen to what I assume is the next room you're supposed to go to, but you can't see where you're going so can't progress.

Most of the screens display correctly though. UI works. Dialogue screen is working fine.

From what I got to experience it got me intrigued. Gonna keep trying to get it working but I'm not tech literate enough to know what's going on.

I tried to go for a 0 skill ending and yeah it worked. I didn't originally think it was possible.

Led me to another nonsense dialogue that appears after it should already be gone.

This gets wild. Time to cover some issues.

Did the treasure map ending and escaped that way. Managed to free the bard but couldn't do anything with him so no idea if there's another unexplored path with him. I can't give the makeshift comb lute to the bard or really do anything obvious with it.

If you want to make interaction points a little less frustrating you should make sure that every single interaction point (the nest, locked doors, etc) should give interaction dialogue by default.

Very often it seems like it's very easy to break dialogue order and trigger dialogue lines which you shouldn't be able to access in the current context If you get the sparrow without talking to the lady and only talk to her after that she still gives you the task and the sparrow is RIGHT THERE.

After returning the sparrow to the lady it goes away again and I can capture it one more time but this time I no longer have the option to return it to the lady. Not sure if a bug or just an endless cycle of negligence that's intended so that the sparrow can be used for another purpose.

Since the game allows you to inspect objects at any point and that counts as dialogue you can trigger the animation while Dirk is facing backwards.

Pressing the escape key triggered this screen at one point. This is after starting a new game 3 times in a single run. The ESC menu was stuck like this from that point on for the duration of that session.

Using the bow displays debug text for each arrow fired and it keeps stacking. It disappears when the arrow hits something or you leave the room you're in.

Some objects are rendered over the health bar.

Grammar and spelling mistakes are too many to list. I came across at least 30+ lines like this. Some of them seemed intentional but others are just errors.



I didn't get the blue screen crash again. The only thing I remember is that the one time I got it was when I pressed two keys at once and the other time was when I was just walking. No idea.

I'm gonna start off by saying that this game has potential purely because true RPGs are a genre completely abandoned by studios and indies alike at this point. There's a lot of games out there that call themselves RPGs, but which do not do the thing that this games does -- changing the player's journey based on his stats. I like that you start off the game as someone with literally no skills. I like that lacking certain skills locks off paths to the player. My advice about all of this would be whatever you do with this game in the future please do not make it possible for a player to max out all the skills in a single playthrough. It takes away from the main strength that this game could have. Also a fair warning that making any kind of true RPG can very quickly escalate into terminal scope creep due to just how many different stat configurations have to be accounted for and having to provide unique content for different stats.

I got two endings -- the naked guy one and the goblin one. Sedating the bird was funny. I think the graphics work really well for the type of experience you're going for and I think they're evocative enough to work as is. Of course most people might not agree with me, so maybe your ideal sweet spot would be to keep the art direction and just improve the fidelity a bit.

The story all on its own is fun -- not just funny -- fun. The tone is just right for this style of game. I liked the writing but it has a lot of ESL spelling and grammar errors all over the place.

Still felt like playing some kind of lucasarts game from the 90s (except actually funny) so that's good.

The thing I like the least is the pixel hunting. Some interactive objects have way too small of an interaction collider or blend just a little too much into the background (the grain). If you overcome this properly you've solved one of your main problems.

The core of the game is absolutely the stat system. This is the one thing that makes this game stand out among a sea of other games. Focus on that. If you didn't have it it's possible I might have come to the conclusion that the game has nothing to offer.

PROBLEMS AND BUGS

Only serious bug I encountered is that when you click exit game it just places you in the home screen (with the stats) but everything is frozen. Pressing Z just refreshes the whole program but nothing happens. Have to alt+F4 the game to close it. 

Starting a second run spawns you in front of the mounted head without any of the intro dialogue. If you walk left to the intro dialogue position only then is the dialogue triggered. 

Finishing a second run tells you you have 3 spare points but only allows you to use 2. 

This happens too from time to time. Just randomly.

I'm happy to hear you enjoyed it. I'm willing to admit that the signpost puzzle is nonsense at the moment -- it was very hastily put together because my focus is elsewhere right now. It doesn't work because it's supposed to be the first challenge in the game, and that generally has to be a freebie for the players -- serving to teach them the mechanics, not so much to test their skills.

The "map" is a travel screen, not a clue. And even though it's possible to get some clues from it, I realized from watching players that it's ultimately too distracting from the actual puzzle so I will  lock it in future versions.

The Blondie confusion is very common which I find funny. To me Blondie is always going to be Clint Eastwood. That version of the ledger puzzle ultimately isn't going to appear in the final demo anyways so I'm not worried about it.

Adding a sprint might break the game. I think it's going to become necessary as the game moves over into the bigger locations but it's a big problem that it encourages players not to pay attention around them, since the full game is going to be much much denser with details.

The footnotes system is there to solve a very real problem for the game -- since it's both a detective game AND doesn't take place in our world this combination carried the enormous risk or breaking the game. Context is everything, and since I can't expect players to know common knowledge from our world, much less from a fictional world, the footnotes were introduced to provide context.  As the game grows in complexity it's going to become very intertwined in figuring out some solutions. It's nice to know the value of the currency since it's very easy to assume wrongly how much it is worth. An American would assume that a bread costs 2 units of a currency. Someone else might assume it costs 10 units of a currency. It's stuff like that.

If you want to keep up with the game you can follow me on twitter: https://twitter.com/gplaysupremacy . I don't post a lot of updates at this point but I'm now at the stage where I'm gradually finishing with the game systems and slowly moving into assets, content, and marketing. I expect (hopefully) that the game is gonna start taking bigger strides soon.

The game starts off great in the first half and completely falls off in the second. It takes less than an hour to run through the first 9 stages. It takes dumb luck and saintly patience to get through the last two. Puzzle games don't work like this. Level-based puzzle games require a setup for each level -- some kind of difference in levels that places a limitation on your actions to give you a nudge towards the solution. The rail pieces are not enough to indicate that. Here you are not given setups -- only vague goals, and the player is given way way too much freedom  which means it's near impossible to narrow down your options by using your brain. This is 10% thinking and 90% blind experimentation when ideally it should be the opposite. Two ways I would approach this is placing obstacles that limit your placement field or starting off the stage with one or a few permanently placed sections of the rails.

It would be convenient if you could delete rail pieces by right-clicking them.

Controls are intuitive but fighting against the rails deciding their own rotation is not satisfying.

Thank you again for everything. There's not a lot of puzzle fans around this community.

Thank you for the stream. 

We need more games that look and play like something from the early 2000s. This game feels like something dug up from a BigFishGames archive.

CONTROLS/INTERACTIONS

I wish there was a way to play the game with mouse only. This type of tactics game seems like it should be able to be navigated with the mouse. Plus for some people it's more intuitive and faster to do everything with the mouse. Having keyboard shortcuts is great to have regardless.

For games like these I think it's better to have infinite move turns when out of combat (meaning a character gets infinite move commands within a single turn), instead of having to move him once and then being forced to switch to the next character because you didn't move far enough.

Not sure if intentional but it's good that the wait command is the default command. If you just spam left click it makes it easier to loop through characters.

The door interactions are nonsense but I'm guessing that's something that's there just as a temporary solution.

Not sure if something is supposed to happen when your party all dies but it just says "The adventurers have perished" and it freezes.

COMBAT

The combat is alright. The class roles are well thought-out to do different things and not have any unnecessary overlap in abilities. It's pretty standard for the genre. I hope it gets more interesting further on with the addition of more enemy variety and maybe more dungeon variety. It's fun to play but a little unintuitive in the beginning. It has a lot of juice because of the sound effects and the strike animation that plays. That's a nice touch.

More character abilities could make it more interesting but keeping a proper clean separation of skills can be a great way to handle it too. Right now it plays more like chess than something like XCOM and I like that.

Obviously there's a complete absence of progression in the game. I think combat is gonna benefit a lot from it once you get to implementing something like that.

CLASSES

I think the three classes could use some more distinction from one another because as it is right now a well-balanced party of all three classes is nice to control but some configurations like having 3 wizards are too op and unbalance the game. As it is right now the only must-have class is a wizard - without one, you're guaranteed to be exterminated -- lacking any of the other classes really doesn't affect things much, since even if all three of your wizards are bleeding out they can just spamheal each other infinitely.

An idea worth exploring more would be the unique species abilities -- maybe some species can move less in a turn but are more damage resistant etc.

BUGS/PROBLEMS

Very often the thing you want to target gets obstructed by a door and your pointer can't reach it. In some of those situations I think the camera couldn't be moved either. I think that clicking actually selects the correct target but mousing over it doesn't display it as a moused-over object in the little window.

A pretty common bug was that initiating an action very often put the point of origin of the pathfinding arrow at the position of a random fly. Not gamebreaking but worth mentioning.

Funny story but this is the second dungeon I got. 4 sectors of 1-3 rooms each completely disconnected from each other.  Deadlocked from beating it (unless wizards can warp across rooms or something).

Some things are pretty great for an early prototype -- the gameplay loop is solid; cool UI; liked the character sprites a lot; the sound effects are fitting; the music is fitting. I think there's a solid foundation here but it's very much just a prototype. Thank you for letting us play it this early though. It was fun.

>When the combat music suddenly starts out of nowhere.

I loved this demo. The sound effects are just right. The graphics are brilliant. The setting is clearly made by someone who knows what he's doing. Liked the puzzle.

And this is pure game. This reload system is cool as hell and adds so much tension to the already tense encounters. If you came up with this you're probably one of the best devs here already. I want to see more.


Oh wait there's a gun in the game just lying on the floor and you can't pick it up. Awful game design 0/10

[SPOILERS BELOW]

Got another three solved. 

Some of these felt easier than the tutorial. I don't know, maybe I just got lucky with some questions. The premises are getting more memorable.

Here's how it went:

- Life insurance -- Pretty straightforward. I got her to accidentally tell me the full story before I presented all the evidence. Got no answers about why the door was broken in despite it being a suicide. Bumbled around a bit before I realized that she's been ready to confess for 10 minutes.

- Peer Tribunal -- Liked this one the most. Had the most tangled situation so far with all those equally nonsense testimonies that sound like bullshit made up on the spot. Didn't like that all it takes is to just ask about that one key piece of evidence that automatically wraps it up. Could use some more complexity considering the premise has potential.

- Mariachi ninjas -- again, there's only one correct topic to bring up to instantly win. I think it would have been better if the necessary evidence was something that can only be found in [final witness]'s testimony to give the case at least two stages of progression, but still pretty good.

Had data sharing enabled throughout, so I trust you'll make good use of it.

Interesting game. The good news is I am your target audience. The bad news is that I am your target audience.

I only got as far as completing the first three cases for now.  First off: it's incredibly difficult to get a game like this right, so I am going to say that I look at everything you attempt to do with great admiration, but there are shortcomings and they need to be covered.

The game is experimental, which is both its strength and its weakness. I'm not a big fan of input-based games. I think there is a reason why text-based adventure games went extinct -- It doesn't mean it's impossible to do, just that it's really really hard to pull off since there's and enormous range of player-system interactions that the developer needs to account for and that takes time and intensive work. Playing this game a lot of the time feels like banging your head against a wall, and when the wall finally starts to crack the next hit just magically makes it fix itself. There were too many moments where telling a suspect about something they already admitted just resulted in the same old denial. I think that's just a flaw inherent in this type of gameplay.

And this is just the tutorial cases. I can only imagine it gets more complex further on.

I think something that needs to be said is that developer intent should never be underestimated and a game that's supposed to be carried by dynamic algorithms loses a lot of that, so it's easy to get lost in the logic.

The UI is very bland and not very attention grabbing. Considering that games like these are supposed to be carried by their UI design I think it needs to be more visually distinct and organized (weirdly the AI dimension is somewhat better at this). Important to note most of the UX bugs are UI-related. Menu buttons (start screen; the city vista screen) very often require 2 clicks to respond and there's no real feedback from the buttons so you're just wondering sometimes if the game froze.

I really want to see more of this, since it's a step in the right direction, but it's a very rough implementation. Player frustration is a big pitfall of all real detective games, so it's always important to account for that. I think a good detective game makes a player feel gratified in his moment-to-moment thinking process, and provides satisfying feedback when he hits the nail right on the head (something that I also struggle with implementing) -- when you make a correct statement or accusation the game usually just spits back a "noted" or "acknowledged" back at you, but I think that this is the perfect place to throw a lead in the player's face (correct action => progression path).

Overall an above average DD game. I like it but I wouldn't call it a great detective experience yet.

The game is cool -- Beat both levels. It feels nice to play; the setting is original; the atmosphere is great. I don't like xoomer shooters.

The art direction is alright but like many others have said before the mismatched graphics are the biggest downside to this whole game. This single screenshot sums it up perfectly.

All the assets individually are great, but they don't match at all. It's like a crazy mashup of 4-5 different styles.

Wish I could break bottles by shooting them.

Flamethrower guy is intimidating but doesn't offer much of a challenge compared to the other enemies.

Flamethrower is cool. Really like using that.

Can't climb some steep stairs without jumping.

Tommy gun doesn't hold enough ammo.

Sewers were a bit difficult to get around in. You can't see very well underwater.

The base pistol could use a reload to make it a bit more balanced. As it is now I can just spam it from 10 miles away as an isntant win button.

Bonus: Floating candlestick

Thank you a lot. Useful and detailed feedback.

There's nothing more helpful than an extended video of a player's unedited thought process. I'm gonna admit that I knew from the start that making any kind of vertical slice for this game was going to cause severe problems for playtesters just because of how much context a player needs for it to even be playable. What you played is a mechanics showcase, not much more at the moment, and you did an amazing job poking at everything to stress test the gameplay. I watched the video from start to end. Your patience is inhuman.

In the full game the actual long-form investigation is going to be merged with this moment-to-moment gameplay that you experienced. The junkyard ledger needed a lot of forced nonsense just so that it could be solvable within a single location. Because of that the game is still missing the core of its experience which is the player's initiative, and following leads around - something only possible in a larger-scale demo.

The entire interrogation aspect is also still absent.

The answers to the scene section lock in twice - once when ten are answered correctly (which exposes the wrong ones up to that point), and once when everything is input correctly. I don't state that anywhere and I don't indicate in any way to the player that the lock-in happens at the midway point. Wanted to test how obvious it is when the game draws no attention to it.

I understand the shortcomings of the single-level-demo format, so good work on sticking through it to test out the mechanics.

SOLUTION SPOILER

Blondie is a male nickname. Probably the biggest "fuck you" I did to the player's logical guesswork within the demo.

There are two Charlses. Both of them are involved in the answers. You got everything correct using the intended thought process. Only Blondie and ??? are wrong.

I will focus on other areas of the game next but I appreciate the insight. Can you elaborate on what specifically about the exploration gameplay you liked and think works well?

Noted and appreciated. 

Never removing the head bobbing though.

Thank you for the feedback. UI is constantly evolving.

I'm way ahead of you on the companion idea. That's basically the planned role David will have in the story. However the dynamic conversations seem like something I would rather leave for an eventual sequel, since I don't think I will have follower NPC functionality for the game. Most of the NPCs will be static. Gotta manage that scope.

I'm feeling really flattered that you took the time to try to piece together some sort of narrative, but I've already stated on the game page that there's no story in the demo yet. I don't want to spoil the story while the gameplay foundation is still in active development, because it can only be experienced once.

The current "mystery" in the demo is just there as an off-beat mechanics showcase right now.

Dialogue system was only just implemented. There will be options later on.

If you're really that interested in a story then stay tuned - it's already fully written but it won't see the light of day until I am satisfied with the mechanics.

I will start with the positives: The concept for this game is great. I can already see myself swapping out loadouts to deal with different levels. The controls have the right amount of balance between challenging and fair. Don't let anyone tell you you made the game too hard. The submarine's weight and maneuverability is top tier. If the submarine was easy to control the game would feel like crap.

Graphical presentation is 10/10 - the color scheme; the contrast; the limited animations. It's easily the best aspect of the game at this stage.

The problems and bugs:

- setting the game to fullscreen misaligns the cursor making it halfway across the screen from where the game shows it to be.
- there was no way to quit a level or restart it. Maybe I just couldn't figure out which key it's set to.
- half of the keyboard navigation (the menu) uses arrow keys while some other parts (level select) use WASD.
- most of the time the crab level did not spawn enough crabs to be beatable. There were 2-3 crabs in the whole level.
- every time the sub went too deep the nautilus creatures started getting aggroed from all the way across the level in large groups. Not sure if intentional.
- there's definitely enough feedback for when you're taking damage but it still doesn't feel like the game is communicating it strongly enough. Losing health should be a big deal. Most of the time I didn't even notice until I was dead. Either the audiovisual feedback needs to be more punchy or the health display needs to be more visually eyecatching.

No idea what the plan is for this game but I would love to play some longer and more complex levels with these gameplay systems. For now it feels more like a sandbox which is nice but the game has potential to go a lot further.

The demo is still in the proof-of-concept stage. A whole ton of small improvements have been made and the foundations of the dialogue system and item menu have now been implemented. 

If you played the previous version but didn't finish the demo then this is for you. If you already finished the demo the last time but still want to test out the new features then this is for you. Very little new content; just mechanics mechanics mechanics.

First time playing. Here's my thoughts broken down by category:

GAMEPLAY

The game is fun. I can't believe I never bothered to try it before this. The way it flows is just really engaging. 

The whole web of different mechanics is really fun to experiment with, but also kind of overwhelming initially because of how many options there are. I think it's a problem when the player is given so many options right from the get go and has nothing to go on regarding what most of them do, apart from stats and a text description.

The stun grenade's effect is too short imo. It might be for balancing reasons but it really disincentivizes using it when you can't rely on it to give you enough time to act.

The AI (for the squads at least) is really good. Was a pleasant surprise since games like these live or die by the quality of their AI. My squad members didn't do anything annoying or retarded even once. The enemy AI can be a bit spastic at times and often seems like their main strategy is swarming you in a mass suicide charge.

UI

The UI is functional, but often feels overly convoluted and unintuitive. Screens like the loadout select screen are arranged in such a way that you can't really read the information easily and don't immediately visually identify what you should be paying attention to. The whole loadout selection process is too tangled for something I would consider the best function of the game.

Also I understand it might be because this is a wip demo, but the UI lacks its own unique identity.

PRESENTATION

The music gives the game an exciting feeling. It might also be one of the aspects of the game with the most personality. The humour is a matter of taste. It got some chuckles from me.

I don't usually like kitchen sink fantasy settings at all, but it works well as the main gimmick of the game. I like that the weapons are inspired by fantasy tropes. You could expand on that design direction.

Probably the most disappointing part of the game would be the lack of visual variety in the maps. Maybe it's something that is planned for the future, but now all maps use the exact same visuals, and while the game insists that each raid takes place in a different location it would be cool to see that in the environments themselves.

Character controller broke one time because an enemy attacked me while arresting another enemy. Had to restart the level.

And I think there was something wrong with the third mission of the tutorial (the one that teaches squad controlls), since it doesn't give the option to select squad members in loadouts, so when the mission starts there is no one but the player character in the enclosed room.

Most of your experience seems to mirror that of other players. I've noted all the repeating feedback.

The case piece notes give you the option of adding your own text notes but I didn't make that clear anywhere. I wanted to see how much of that people would figure out on their own to test the intuitiveness of it. Thank you.

The game is planned to be just one extended investigation that contains multiple mysteries that might or might not be connected. In the notebook they are logged as scenes. It takes you across a few locations in the town and it's non-linear in that for the most part you have to decide yourself which location might advance your investigation next. You collect leads, solve scenes, and this leads you to other locations and other clues.

Very glad to hear you liked it.

The question of how and when answers should be locked in is one of a few major gameplay aspects I still don't know how to approach. In the full game the structure of the investigation complicates things a lot, since it will have multiple scenes, with multiple sections each. Right now I'm leaning towards the way I used in this demo but I'm open to ideas.

And yeah, like I've said already, the confusion with the logged-at-start case pieces is because they are there as a bandaid solution. In the real game you encounter the people and things yourself so you're more familiar with each.

Thank you for the detailed comment. The movement is the one thing which I'm not looking to change or fix anytime soon. It's a non-priority for the game's function.

The other two things you brought up - the ease of navigation, and the types of clues are problems coming from the limited scope I set for the prototype.

The fact that some solutions are obvious and some are obtuse is intentional but doesn't really work when they are all put together in one single mystery with 20 whole slots to solve. I think for future mysteries I will increase the number of possible clue trails you can use to reach an answer.

As the demo expands there will be less automatically added case pieces that you only find out through the notebook, and the needed case pieces will all be found "in person". This one puzzle is a mockup I used to effectively showcase how the systems work at this stage.

The case notebook navigation will undergo changes and improvements.