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You can put this in Javascript section to remove SugarCube’s default UI sidebar completely:

UIBar.destroy();

Thank you so much! I hope the romance route for your General works out with the Emperor! (Not all romance routes are “possible”, but friendship is always possible ^_^)

Thank you! :)

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(for chapters 6-10)

Facts:

  • 大带 leather belt to hang stuff, silk sash to cover it up to show high status; poor/low-status or crude people don’t wear a sash; 带钩图解

  • 女闾, 营妓, state-operated or state-sanctioned sex trade (using mostly widows, female prisoners, and women who were punished just because they belonged to the same clan as criminals; although some argue minister Guan Zhong’s state-operated version gave female slaves a place to learn other skills and buy their way out of slavery, not sure how true that was, but in today’s world many people pay debts and student loans with earnings from sex work), a form of tax to fund endless warfare, maintain morale, and manage civil unrest due to pent up sexual frustration

  • Retainers as “House Guests”

  • funeral human sacrifice

  • facial tattooing as a form of punishment

  • , Maltose

  • Tomb-sweeping day and cold food (due to fire being forbidden for use) festival used to be separate occasions, and not originally to commemorate loyalist Jie Zitui (not sure if that story was even real or just a powerful propaganda). The law to forbid the use of fire makes more sense to be about fire control during the dry season (司炬 as an official position). However, the effect of forcing common people of that era to eat uncooked/unheated food was very damaging to people’s health, and thus the length of “no fire period” was eventually reduced down to just three days.

  • 握奇经 (wojijing)

  • Zhen, a kind of “paperweight” (often bronze miniature sculptures) to keep corners of a reed mat from curling up

  • Invention of early form of umbrella was credited to Lu Ban and his wife around that time period.

  • Medicine related: Datura 曼陀罗花

  • forced migration: may take some inspiration from Dian culture, history of Chu people, Yelang culture, etc.

Anachronism:

  • No definite depictions of Warring States period tomb-robbing tools, but these might be similar.

  • lock-catch” technique; the fundamentals (from military training) must already exist back then, but probably not as defined as we know them now

  • 戚继光(明朝): “既得艺,必试敌” Qi Jiguang (Ming dynasty): “Once you have acquired the skills, you must test them on an opponent.”

  • Wrestling. I don’t think I will be able to depict it accurately to how it was around the Warring States era, so it might “seem” more like wrestling in later era (at least women wrestling “as bare-chested as men” was infamous one time during the Song dynasty). The key take-away is that it was initially a military training activity for soldiers (end goal being improving chance of survival), and can even involve punching and kicking.

Fiction (some plausible hand-waving):

  • Integration of women and men in the same army division (for at least some of Zong’s military). To lean toward this choice of depiction is partly considering the neighboring influences (like many minority cultures of the time that still maintained matriarchy, or at least where women could openly command troops) and modern sensibilities (because we are readers in the 21st century, not 481 BC). The related hand-waving part are things like Reward’s Night (total fabrication, if it exists it’s a coincidence), Since state-controlled prostitution (minister Guan Zhong) and military-sanctioned “comfort women” situation (King Goujian of Yue) of those eras were documented (and of course rape is sadly a given), I want to imagine that some allowance for military-sanctioned sexual activities between soldiers exist, provided that the unpredictable consequences may be undesirable for the soldiers themselves so that they can police themselves to some degree. Many people were and still are sexually-driven, this is one of my fictional ways of reconciling some of the discomfort with the reality that not everyone can or wants to tame their sex drive. It’s all natural and beautiful until somebody gets hurt.

  • 洛越 “lowat” people, inspired by legends of southern Yue tribes; I saw some wiki entry saying 雒越 is actually more farming-oriented, while West Yue (as a categorization) people engaged in more warfare (due to being attacked by Qin), but the possible older pronunciation Wut, Wat, or Wet is not good to use directly as an English name; Xiwat? West-Wat sounds awkward.

  • Imperial edicts, at least for Qin state/dynasty, were carved into stone tablets or bronze objects (like a measuring cup) at that time period; I need a faster/cheaper (Heng Emperor is poor) and more portable method by using silk (a material less common among the general population) banner as the canvas; who knows, maybe later the Emperor will commission a craftsman to carve it into a stone tablet. Important tidbit to learn: “奉天承运皇帝,诏曰” opening line was invented by the first emperor of the Ming dynasty, and never used before his time.

  • “Wasting-thirst” 消渴病 is a real documented illness, but how I depict it in the story might be inaccurate for the sake of effect. Do not consider the doctor’s advice (quite vague anyway) applicable to modern day version of the illness.

  • 息肌丸, xiji pill (“breathing” pill?!), a kind of aphrodisiac that has adverse effect on the womb if used over the long-term, has some historical documentation, but the complete recipe of the concoction has been lost. Current views of its confirmed component 麝香 (Moschus) only agree that it should be used with caution for a pregnant patient, but otherwise it’s unclear how toxic it is by itself when used in moderation.

  • Military formations (battle arrays) might not be completely accurate to what they were originally, since not every formation mentioned in ancient military manuals had precise diagrams.

  • Use poison to treat/neutralize poison. This has some scientific basis, like chemotherapy against cancerous cells, or the way how many Traditional Chinese medicine ingredients are actually deadly at a certain dosage. It is also a common wuxia trope. In this story I’m not using scientifically proven neutralizing combination, only the spirit of this trope.

  • People/culture inspired by 粟特人 Sugda/Sogdiana people and ancient Kucha (although probably also anachronistic if directly using these cultures), I’m making up some northwestern region cultures that are supposed to be migrants from beyond the western border of the kingdom.

  • What information I find on finger-press pressure point treatment (with or without acupuncture) is difficult to distinguish between what was available at that time period versus thousands of years of knowledge accumulation. And sometimes information online can be misleading or plain wrong, so obviously don’t imitate it in real life.

  • Earthquake; (historically there was a documented major earthquake around that era, ~780 BCE in Guanzhong region during Western Zhou dynasty 岐山地震)

Fiction (total BS):

  • Reward’s Night (see “plausible hand-waving” section)

  • Troop distribution is probably illogical, but it’s an approximation to simulate a crisis

  • Troop size. Some say during Warring States era the army size would have easily reached multiples of 100,000 instead of 10,000, especially since there are only three states in the story. But I can’t yet wrap my head around that size to write about. MC is already going to have a hard time dealing with multiples of 5,000, so I don’t want to stretch my own suspension of disbelief too much.

  • The illusions seen after being struck by the Lowat tribe’s hallucinogenic poison darts

  • Spirit Poison, Soul Possession

(more to be added later…)

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carriage|width=100 ink brush|200, 50% writing on wooden slip|100, 50% water dipper
image source: “书简阅中国” courier station
image source: “河西走廊”

Try SugarCube format in the future. It has some user-made code for popup dialog boxes (and other nifty features) that will make open/close dialog box messages easier, and they don’t add to the game history (aka don’t need to “go back” to story). :)

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I can’t access the forum posts to give feedback, probably because it’s in draft mode. I read the instruction first, and I think it reads fine with Ariadne’s feelings being fairly non-cousin-like (first time the emphasis on “why can’t others appreciate her”, and the strong reaction with the staring scene). But I understand your concern. What I was wondering about is the strong reaction from Atalanta during the staring scene, but not being acearo means my comment can be ignored.

(if you don’t want to spoil readers with this feedback, let me know and I will delete it)

No worries. Reaching milestone often helps with feeling better about the self, I think. :)

My personal issue with audio is the volume control. If not careful they become unintended jump-scares.

Are your Twine stories in Harlowe format? I use Sugarcube 2, and in that it’s using CSS-variables, the addClass()/removeClass() to change text/background color, and put the option inside “Settings” section for user.

Vague battle is okay. But I was just confused about the logic of the train of thought right before the final action and then the fantastical element (that had one foreshadow before, but still felt kind of Wha? when it happened). Don’t worry about that unless too many people say it’s too out-of-left-field or something. I don’t trust my own logic on most days. XD

Take care.

Hi, I’m responding based on your request for feedback on reddit. I did a quick read-through. I think the writing is good. :) I’m not sure about the ending from a storyteller’s perspective, but I get that’s not the point by your final message. :) Thanks for writing it.

  • Why are you interested in adding sound effects?
  • If you could provide option for different text/background color that can always be beneficial for accessibility reason.

Minor things:

  • “No is below to catch you”, probably missing “one” in there
  • “haircut.But”, probably missing a space after the punctuation

During the initial placement phase, a coin being dragged over the square gets consumed by the square as well. I recommend having a switch that says “Ready” or “Test” so that square doesn’t start consuming the coins until it’s supposed to go. Unless that is intended effect, then never mind. :)

In level 3, the square eventually moved outside of the view window and I couldn’t dice-roll it back to anywhere close to the coins, so I gave up then.

Keep up the good work. :)

Thank you for your kind words. :)

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稷下学宫: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcg9BcxSKtuL4_GyZsJbeKYpn55t55KfI

穿在身上的中国: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcg9BcxSKtuL-nNaZRX4cvJnsc45KgMml

法医宋慈: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwXMmy5fUrVza71k5h8v70wriMR0rY_vr

中华国宝(channel): https://www.youtube.com/user/guobaodangan/videos

藏着的武林: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwXMmy5fUrVwpVNRrJDi9iBElH_AfQ8Mh

大国治道: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcg9BcxSKtuJvYM1ljgP6RgV20w__hvT_

书简阅中国: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwXMmy5fUrVz0sRXmw54sa-TsXoumsRUI

典籍里的中国 《尚书》 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtOCiVIjnE0
《天工开物》 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTSf6l_cGTM
《论语》https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_q3UwgksmE

冷兵器时代,围魏救赵: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwXMmy5fUrVxK023ni25Nat_Dxjk_wBLQ

河西走廊: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwXMmy5fUrVxk1k6H1NlsOyOJ2OTUoz1r

龟兹: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwXMmy5fUrVxO0j0475FZv4acUQgUXmbY

楚国八百年: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwXMmy5fUrVwPfGrt1-wIhsL30tfPCpi_

《国宝·发现》 头顶铜釜脚穿铜锅?探寻神秘夜郎国的套头葬: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVEG1_7t9c8
别样的“中国靴子”!它是世界上最早发现的双马镫:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0usa8LwdKKc

国家宝藏 第三季 第2期:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5onlt_T5S0
https://www.bilibili.com/bangumi/play/ep378752 (现今可识~4378甲骨文字)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c2OZJSM59E

指尖上的传承:
玉雕: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGnLq-tKLz0

【马背上的青铜帝国】第二集 马上行国:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEu4L9dn-Fo

《王陵遗梦》:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwXMmy5fUrVy7PeNUaqbskmq3TYHFXHEc

《方志中国》:
第二集 源远流长 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZiY8FQ1OPo

(讲座)

《中国衣裳》 霓裳羽衣到底是什么样子的?它真的是用羽毛制作的吗? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkGYKNhSl_o
古人为什么把紫色尊为贵色? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X7rPQK9RzQ
如此注重礼仪的古人为什么要穿“开裆裤”呢? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHJDe-wX4jE

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试烧天然暴露地面的石油,石腊: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VW96udcVUc
笄礼: https://youtu.be/l-f3UZQkoHg?t=2336
粮仓处理: https://youtu.be/lLeGgBhIev8?t=1023
古滇国究竟是怎样的一个国度?“活人祭祀”难道真实存在? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNsgfPC01Q0
在没有钢筋水泥混凝土的先秦时代 古人如何把埋藏在地底深处的矿石珍宝一件件运到地面? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2IiP7H1De4

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I like your writing (the language of it), the way you segment it for easy reading, and balancing variety of choice versus manageable branching so that you can aim for 2~3-week update schedule.

Would be keen to help you code the next interactive-fiction (unless you decide to switch mid-way through this one) in SugarCube so the save system might be easier to manage. XD But whatever makes things easier for you is the best.

Take care.

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Facts:

* Political landscape inspired by the collapse of Zhou dynasty through Warring States (even Three Kingdoms) situation, the Emperor being overpowered and overshadowed by the vassal lords

* Quotations from Master Meng, Master Zhuang, Master Mo, Master Sun's Art of War, Book of Odes (or Classic of Poetry), Master Han FeiInner Canon of the Yellow Emperor, Master Xun, Dao De Jing, monster imagery inspired by entries in Classic of Mountains And Seas

* Zodiac hours; an ancient Chinese hour equals two modern day hours

* LGBTQ+ existence (but definitely not enough documentation, because even celebrities had to compete for attention to be documented by historians)

* examples of natural (not stage voice) but "unexpected" vocal pitch: Jamyang Dolma, Zhou Xun (actress), Zhou Shen or Charles Zhou (here he sings in an even higher pitch, here he changes his pitch higher and lower)

* traditional bowing etiquette

* proto-celadon ware

* 十二章纹

* Music-related: Yue Folk's Song 越人歌 (modern version: female vocal, falsetto, male vocal)seven-string zither 古琴, Yu pipe 竽 (36 pipes), Chime Bells; Chime StonesWarm Spring, White Snow

* Arts-related: ritual dancing in military context

* game of Encirclement 围棋/弈, or Weiqi/Go/Baduk, but was played on 17x17 board, not the modern day 19x19; the ancient Chinese rules vary from the modern Japanese-influenced rules: it used to be white first (or any side can be first), usually played by the stronger side, and the opening 8 moves around the corner star positions is what limits the advantage of the initiator (philosophically/symbolically it's also setting up the initial balance of power), so there was less need for the 5.5 points compensation. Based on this archaeological finding, it is plausible for Go stones to be made in Bronze, Lapis Lazuli, or even other material, as well as being not strictly black versus white in color (and they are shaped like small eggs in that video.)

* Acupuncture (but the needles of that time looked different than modern day ones)

* Medicinal ingredients: Snakesbane 蛇灭门 (Thermopsis lupinoides), Lingzhi 灵芝 (Reishi Mushroom), Dingxiang 丁香 (Intermediate Luculia), motherwort 益母草 (Leonurus japonicus), sealwort 黄精 (Polygonatum sibiricum), "wolf poison" 狼毒/断肠草 (Stellera chamaejasme)

* Weapons and Armors: Scaled Leather Tunic or lamellar armor, rattan armor 藤甲 (idea borrowed from Romance of the Three Kingdoms)

* Eyebrow-painting with charred willow branch or graphite

* hostage exchange, First Emperor of Qin was the son of someone who did go through that experience

* The significance of direction of seating, at least during Warring States period. In a square arrangement, east-facing is for one with highest status, south-facing next, north-facing after that, and west-facing last. In the Emperor's audience chamber, Emperor always sits south-facing, and favors people on his/her right side

* Earlier Eight Trigram pattern

* Inaction

* 锅盔 crusty pancake as military ration, easy to carry by individual soldiers (instead of piled up on wagons)

* Calligraphy ink cannot be wiped clean easily from basic bamboo strips (it's not like a whiteboard with specialized markers). Otherwise so much ancient text couldn't have survived till modern time. Writing on bamboo strips are usually scraped/carved off, or use orpiment (Arsenic trisulfide) like White-Out, then write on top of that layer. 战国时期砚台与墨丸

* close combat: boxing matches (战国时期“相搏”, Zuo Commentary's entry on Duke Xi, chapter 28 mentions the Duke dreamed that he was boxing another Duke), sword fight (in Zhuangzi, King of Zhao held sword-fighting matches like Rome's Gladiators)

* Cuju, kickball

Hexi Corridor (due to cooler climate and less human destruction of the environment, it used to be a fertile land that's good for agriculture or ranching), Mount Tai, Yellow River, Long River

Anachronism:

* Qin Emperor's color was Black (for the Heavens/Space, or the Qin state element, Water). I'm not sure about the official color of the declining Zhou dynasty (maybe red for the Fire Element?). Not yet Yellow (for the color associated the Yellow Emperor, or Earth as the center of the five elements, or just because of association to vast land/territory, or with the high value of gold) from Sui dynasty onward. I like the imagery of black for the blackness of the universe, and also I'm thinking about the unification in the story, just like what the Qin Emperor achieved.

* Ring-Pommel Blade (?) 环首刀 might be more prominent during Han dynasty

* Current archaeological finding of stir-up dates its invention after this general time period, so may fudge the exact time a bit

* Candle was still very expensive to make around that era, so should be even less common than mentioned. Lots of bean oil lamps more likely.

* Trousers in the modern sense came into common use much much later, but Qin soldiers, prisoners or laborers wore some kind of trousers for ease of movement, and northern horse-ridding cultures had trousers that were later adopted by Zhao state military (but maybe not extended to commoners); most people just had long tunics to cover as much as possible even in a sitting pose, lower leg sock-like shoes (for aristocrats), or simpler crotch-wrapping cloths (like what Japanese Sumo wrestlers wear)

* During Warring States period an Emperor probably doesn't have a throne-like seat, just that he has more fancy stuff around him when in his official seating position

* Rainbow Skirt and Feathered Robe (霓裳羽衣) dance is from the much later Tang dynasty; and I don't really know what the routine looks like; supposedly the music is based on or inspired by Music of Brahmin (婆罗门曲), from ancient Kucha (龟兹) region

* Gulls and Herons Forget Scheming, from the much later Song dynasty

* Not sure about when pressure points have standardized names, so I'll assume what I can find in pressure point diagrams are based on later era medical text. Actual pressure point names: Chize, Quze, Yitang, Qianquan

* From the later Song dynasty and onward, 圣旨 ("Imperial Edict") the term may include all types of official order from the Emperor.

Fiction (some plausible hand-waving):

* The Stems-and-Branches system 60-year-cycle simplified by me into an Elements-and-Zodiac system 60-year-cycle (because I didn't memorize the Stems-and-Branches terms, but I know the Elements and the Zodiac order)

* Zodiac-associated months (apparently there are associations, but the date ranges do not correspond to the dates of each modern month as cleanly as I would like in the story for simplicity)

* Paper is better documented to be invented during Han dynasty (after the Warring States period and Qin unification), but there may have been recent discovery of pieces of "proto-paper" that survived the elements. I also believe animal skin type parchment may have been possible, just rarer, and not really common among people who don't read/write.

* Fighting with Qi (Qi energy is not fiction, but in this story I'm too loose with its depiction, going with the Wuxia flavor)

* wuxia-inspired martial arts should look and feel more "primitive" at the time; I can't find definitive argument of whether India's Kalaripayattu is a major influence to much of later era martial arts or not, only certain that "native born" martial arts would definitely have existed and evolved (every closed community in the world would develop its own fighting style), examples were stories of the assassins during the Warring States period, Swordswoman of Yue, Master Zhuang persuading King of Zhao to abandon his obsession with watching swordsmen kill each other, etc. True martial arts were born out of the necessity to kill. Fight in a way to not get killed, not about looking cool while doing it.

* Hexi Corridor, the exact going-ons during that period will be glossed over or fabricated in service of the story, but it will still symbolize the spirit of the Silk Road (which more officially began during Han dynasty). Commerce between tribes of people have always happened at local levels. So there may have been a similar "Stone Road" during the Stone Age, and a "Bronze Road" (see Ordos bronze ware) during the Bronze Age, etc. Exchanging crafted ware and crafting techniques.

* Heaven's Ritual in the story is a mashup of actual Heaven Worship (done in winter season) and modern day Spring Festival, because I don't want to write around too many distinct festivities; and the specifics that happen during the ritual are not thoroughly researched, only sprinklings of the general idea, such as ritual dancing, distribution of sacrificial meat based on status and level of contribution to society/community, etc.

Fiction (total BS):

* Ancient Chinese does not sound nor look like modern Mandarin (ignoring the fact that it then has to be localized for each specific readership), especially when it didn't go through something like the Qin dynasty standardization

* 99% of location names and character names (besides existing authors of writing that were referenced) are made up (Google-fu will fail you this time). Most of the surnames were inspired by surnames of that approximate era, but otherwise just going by what sounded reasonable. I try to avoid overlaps, because pinyin without tone marker will make many names look the same even if they sound different in Mandarin.

* Blood-letting to cure Krait-bite? The patient was super lucky.

* BS martial arts move to knock people out with strikes around the neck region. I don't really know how that works.

Thank you Jammi for guiding me through this game. <3

Here's the edited actual-play (will remove/edit upon request):

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I meant the smaller character portraits, usually on the left side of the dialog box. But if the quick menu buttons use the same concept I'll think about doing that. Thanks!

Thanks for the update. Is it easy to implement side images (the smaller image near the dialog box) in the current engine?

Great work, but the tutorial is buggy.

1. Using Chrome, the settings/save/skip/auto buttons don't respond to mouse clicks, instead it overlaps with the normal click-to-continue operation. In Firefox it responds better.

2. I tested the save/load in the tutorial (in Firefox, because of issue #1), when I saved progress and the character is in the center screen, then load it while the game is still in progress, the  character in the center doesn't get cleared when the character is moved to the left as the game continues. It could be a problem with the browser/Javascript engine unable to properly execute due to user's fast clicking, but it's still an undesirable effect for a game engine.

Cool. Once I realized the thief can stay hanging (keep holding the X key) on the chandelier it made it slightly easier! XD

Very clean design. I used Wine to run the windows version.

@WebFreak, you are right. Basically I simplified the "mental image" too much, treating the "hand" means upper body related, "foot" means lower body related. A punch generally comes high, so you block/parry high. A kick generally comes low, so you block/parry low. After the first few guesses based on what the radical is about, it's just memorization.

I like the graphic design.

I could not get back to the main menu after looking at the Controls page. :(

Source code is (editable in text editor) in game package, so it's open-source in that sense. The code looks really messy right now, but I'll wait to update it before disqualifying the entry. XD

Fun and on-theme. A little fast to handle but may be part of the charm.

@WebFreak, the bouncing ball will hit the stars and when all the stars are knocked out a new level begins.

It's a variation on pin-ball/pong. Very cute. But please make it clear how to exit the game. I had to hard-restart my computer because none of the usual methods worked to exit the program.

Thanks, everard!

I had that same reasoning attempting to learn Godot through this Jam. Unfortunately that was too big of a challenge for me. :P

Hearing Love2D being brought up a bit around here, is it easier to learn than Godot for someone who's new to UI/physics programming?