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A topic by Sk1ds created Jul 05, 2023 Views: 2,703 Replies: 133
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Hey there!

I'm an OutRun speedrunner, I'll be trying out your game soon and probably creating a leaderboard for it on Speedrun dot com.

Thank you for this awesome initiative!

MS Marceau.

Developer(+1)

That's awesome! Would you like to let me know if it's ready?

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Sorry for the delay. Leaderboard is ready at that page: Turbo OutRun Reimagined - Speedrun.com

I'll be streaming the game this week at MasterSystemMarceau - Twitch

Small tiny detail, I'd suggest "Turbo OutRun Reimagined" (with a capital R) 'cause that's usually how we write "OutRun".

Hi - this is amazing work and something I have been looking for a long time! Just a quick one - would you consider an option to be able to move the main car further down the screen so there is less of a gap (similar to the original). This is may sound like a minor point but it was probably one of the first things I noticed and something that seemed slightly off subconsciously from an Outrun experience. If not - this is still amazing!

Developer

Thank you very much!

You're not the only one with this suggestion. I'll look into it tonight. This might be a simple fix of simply putting the camera higher, but this may also mess up the sprite system where the cars may look like they go up.

If it works, I'll add the option. Maybe I'll map a camera button where you can switch between both options while you're driving. Perhaps even a bumper cam.

Developer(+1)

I figured out why I didn't move the car further down. It messes up the turbo flame. It's not directly behind the car, but about a meter behind it, so it wouldn't clip through the floor. If I move the car, I have to reposition the flame(s) for each car.

I'll probably update the code in the future so it dynamically repositions itself, depending on the position of the car.

Excellent!  I look forward to this!

I only just discovered this, and it's fantastic! Great job - love the callback to Test Drive, that took me completely by surprize and was awesome.

This has probably been suggested already, but if not, how about support for ultrawide monitors - or at least have an option to put black bars on the side so its presented at 16:9 for those that want that. For me, on a 21:9 monitor, you can see the graphics that are meant to be off screen and it's a bit distracting, although I also like that it can fill the full screen. So if it's not in the cards to have full ultrawide support, then just having that 'force 16:9' option would be great. No big deal for me, I just changed my resolution down.

Also the low-resolution mode is so good, and fits the style so well, may I suggest making that the default. Could just be me though.

Overall I really enjoyed it. Truly you did a fantastic job.

Now, how about a career mode with sponsors... just kidding, kinda.

Developer

Thank you very much!

Oh I never thought about that. I still have lots of stuff to discover about Unity, so perhaps I can try to figure out how the resolution stuff works.

I'm glad that you like the low-resolution mode! The bad part is that it loses the bloom effect around the light poles and the little lights in the tunnels. Also, it makes your car look a bit of a pixel-mess. For that reason I still prefer the high resolution mode, until I figure out how to overcome those flaws.

A career mode with sponsors... Like in Super Hang-On?

I'll have to try the regular resolution mode again - which looked great, but I'm so used to the original look, it's very difficult for me to go away from that. For career mode, I was thinking about something more like Super Monaco GP for the Genesis - it has a fairly simple career mode where you earned money from sponsors, which let you then buy upgrades. By career mode standards, it's pretty basic, but for replay value it's great - although you already have a really good leveling up system as it is. It was just a pure wish-list type suggestion, but if you get a chance, maybe checkout that example and see what you think, if it makes any sense or not.

Also, again, the Test Drive flashback was awesome, and completely unexpected. I played that game so much as a kid, to come out of the tunnel and have the mountains there - that was just amazing to me. Just a fantastic job - I love it!

Developer

It was a well thought out decision not to use money for this game.

- I think money is slightly more difficult to balance out than time management, although there are some other difficulties with my system.

- Lots of games have money, while I really like the idea of World Rally Championchip's time system.

- You're supposed to be filthy rich, so money shouldn't be a factor, just like in the real Cannonball/Gumball Rally.

But I do understand the appeal of your suggestion. Super Hang-On had a similar system.

I'm glad you like it anyway!

Sure! Makes sense - was just a wish list type of deal. I love simple RPG-like career modes, gives you reasons to grind and upgrade, but not everyone likes that. Also was great to see the game pop-up all over my YouTube feed in the last week, it's just a fantastic game!

This is really cool!  I was just wondering if there's any way to drift/power slide around corners? Also, a color select option for the vehicles would be cool.  :)

Developer

Thanks! Drifting/powersliding probably isn't going to make it into the game. It would make things a bit too complicated for me to program.

Color selection is going to be added if I figure out how you can replace the color in the UI. At this moment the cars turn completely black if I try to change the color in the menu.

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I didnt knew about this project, amazing work.

One suggestion is that,  the car is centered too high on the screen. i feel off while playing it, as if having too much road under the car its annoiyng me a little. More than anything with the red car. It even makes the ilussion that the car obstructs the road view a little.

Look this image comparisson with the original:




Would be better if you put the two  playable cars centered a little lower, but not as low as in the original

Not because of being a purist, is just that it feels better for me at least.

You can add the FM towns soundtrack of the game, it sounds great

Developer (1 edit)

Thanks!

Yes, I've heard that before. I'm going to add the option to lower the car's position in the future, or perhaps a button so you can cycle between camera positions. But then I have to redo the positioning of the exhaust flames since they are not placed directly behind the car, but a meter from it.

And yes, perhaps I can add that soundtrack.

Speaking of camera. May I ask in some future to give an option un-tie camera from cars back Y axis wise to give it more float a-la road rash (md), road rash 1995 (3do, ps1, pc, sat; best example), outrunners (arcade).

Also would like to ask for more low-res compatible UI (gauges) and fonts (something that looks passable at 640x360 to do stuff like this image).

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Good job on this project! I'd say add 4 players split screen for some same screen muliplayer mayhem.

Maybe one more frame of animation for the cars, but that's more an artistic choice. 

Menu text and all the hud elements should be more pixel art than the current font you have, they look out of place.

As of now, I'm having a blast, keep up the great work

Developer

Thanks!

4 players split screen 😵 That's pretty ambitious. If I manage to pull off 2 player split screen, I'll be very happy.

Yes, the more frames, the better ofcourse. If I ever have custom sprites, I'll make sure that there are enough.

About the menu text and font: I know. I'll try to make it really pretty someday.

But I'm glad you enjoy it!

This is amazing!  Just playing with the keyboard it's still loads of fun and really captures the essence of those old racers but with better handling.  Great job!

I have 3 arcade racing cabinets hooked together in my basement arcade.  I'd love to see at least an arcade style attract mode that can run while it's not being used, and of course forcefeedback steering wheel support!

Developer

Force feedback is coming! By the way: does your cabinet have the original shifter? With high and low gear? How does it work? Is there some sort of button in the middle or something? If so, I can add the option to make it compatible with the shifter.

An attract mode... Yes, I've been thinking about that. Yeah, maybe I can add something like that in the future.

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Yves, my Belgian friend, what a beautiful thing you have created! BRAVO! Astonishing!

I saw a YouTube video, came here, tried the web version, immediately bought it.. recommended it to my friends...
Time from first sight to purchase <5 mins.
I am addicted at the moment. I have been playing it all night. Surprised at how few comments you have here...
You have solved SO MANY  of the very obvious problems with an already superb original game.

You asked for suggestions :
The analog stick should be usable on the car select and car upgrade/repair sections, user should not have to move to the d-pad.
I selected three repairs and it said I had selected 0 upgrades. Repairs and Upgrades are a little confusing. Repairs x/x Upgrades x/x ??
Grab the music from as many versions as you can, they are all different and they are all great! Master System, Arcade, Xbox 360 etc etc...
World, Europe, Local (All time, This Month and Today) High Score tables.
Retain settings between games.
Should be able to enter my name with the joystick..
Distance to RIVAL.
Big Chase HQ style RIVAL arrow (Criminals Here!) (optional).
The mechanic is too realistic - is this you? Someone you know? :) Needs to be more 8-bit - like the "Nancy" in the Mega-Drive Chase HQ 2 - 

Steering wheel support would be cool but that is always going to be a small sub-set of your customer base.

You should have a "Chill-Out Drive" option, where you are not racing, but driving fast through a randomly generated environment... slowly increase the max speed... up to the user if they want to just drive and chill or keep pushing themselves.

Get user submitted cars.. Lots of them. Let people rank them and auto add the recent top 10 - note, not everyone has PhotoShop...

Most car games fail because of obvious and repeated problems...
Crash too much - No-one WANTS to crash.
Too realistic - I am playing a game not WORKING...
Not realistic enough : Your car is 2x faster than all other cars you are racing against. Except for one which is always faster than you...
Boring challenges - Yes that's you Horizon Chase - A game should be fun to play and fun to come back to - not a punishment to come back to.
Drifting is too challenging - Get drifting right and you will have an awesome game.. it is not hard.. brake whilst accelerating and turning, then control the drift.. maybe have a Tony Hawks style arc and arrow.. push it too hard and you spin, too little and your drift ends.

Thoughts for your future (car) games...

Multiple rivals: Like 30 or 40! Loricel had a game on the Amiga/Atari ST which had a lot of rivals that you had to pass, the passing was slow but very realistic. The car in the game was a child's Matchbox Porsche which they photographed then digitized (including with its rear hatch and doors opened during crashes - this would be an interesting option for you, could be a super quick way to add a lot of cars). Overtaking was challenging but fun... JUMP TO 7m 16s

Need for Speed had an ok rubber banding system for two player games if you go that way. Whatever you do, do not make it like recent Mario Karts where the person at the back can win!!

Next Car Game : Remake Chase HQ and then Need for Speed (PS1). :)

General advice...

At some point Sega and Copyright will come knocking, probably a good idea to be bringing this to a close and to use your new found connections to get your own (similar but way better) game up and running.
Porsche Challenge on the PS1 and San Francisco Rush 2049 on the Dreamcast built in lots of shortcuts. On the SFR game they were there all the time, the harder ones gave you more rewards. On the Porsche Challenge game they turned on and off on a looped track and were often signified by a sound effect (cut through the churchyard when you heard the bell toll). These were great features, especially for a two player game. JUMP TO 2m 20s

Get a graphics artist.. all those cars do look like they are pulling wheelies and that would be easy for a graphics artist to fix.
GET YOUR USERS EMAIL ADDRESSES!!! If you make a good product once, people will buy from you again, but only if they know you have a new product.
Do you get to see the email addresses of people who have bought??


Finally... in your own games.. JUICE JUICE JUICE...

My background : Been playing video games since PONG!! I have played A LOT OF GAMES! Owned my own video game store in England. Now live in Texas.

Developer(+2)

Thank you very much! I'm glad you appreciate my game. I've indeed put a lot of thought in it, so it would be fun and not too frustrating.

And thanks for the constructive feedback. This really helps the game forward.

The picture of the mechanic is my father who passed away in 2013. When I played the original mode of Super Hang-On on the Genesis when I was 6, I thought it would be cool if my father was the mechanic. So this picture is probably going to stay, unless someone can draw a nice 16 bit rendition of him.

That is very cool! Keep him in!

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This is my favourite game by far lately.
i already finished it many times, so i would sugest new cars and new routes to expand the gameplay loop.
 Perhaps the car from Sega Ages Outrun or chase HQ.
Also new routes, i would love some routes with tracks based on the Outrunners ones.

Keep on your good work, this game is nearly perfect already, it's everything i evr wanted as an outrun fan

Developer

Thanks!

Yes, new tracks are coming in one of the next updates.

I'm not sure of the cars though. I don't have a lot of sprites left that I can use. Maybe the 928 from Chase HQ if Taito isn't going to sue me. 😆

Hi,maybe stuff to drive over/through like for example waterpuddles, wooden roadsigns,etc.

Also ,the female yelling in fear sometimes would be nice, and perhaps switching drivers in that the Woman is driving and the Man is screaming😅

Btw. I love this fanmade version, also.love fiddling with the reshade on it🙃

Developer

Yes, I'll add those road stuff eventually!

And I would also like to add an option to switch man and woman. 😉 If I find some nice screaming samples I might add those in the future. Maybe..... 😆

buenas noches desde barcelona ciudad, España!! Primero felicidades por tu extraordinario trabajo. Una pregunta. No tengo claro para qué plataforma has echo éste Out Run. Es para Android? Windows? Ps5 o megadrive?

Y quería preguntarte si sabes hacer menús personalizados para la sega megadrive, como los juegos Mega Games, para poner tres juegos o más en un menú y grabarlo luego en una pcb,como los de aliexpress que te vienen un 196 en 1, por ejemplo. 

Muchas gracias ✌️✌️😁👍

this game is brilliant!  it looks and runs amazing on steam deck oled but displays in 4:3 causing missing graphics on the left and the right of the screen.

As for improvement suggestions,  ..when using the hang-on motorcycle, it sits very low down on the screen allowing you to see the road ahead clearly, ..but with using the normal ferrari car it sits higher up/ more forward on the road so it kind of blocks the view of the road ahead.

It's a fantastic game, thankyou

Developer

Thanks you very much!

I'll try to make it compatible with 4:3 screens.

And yes, I'm about to lower the cars very soon.

please note i did finally fix the mentioned 4:3 screen problem on steam deck, so i don't think you need to concern yourself with it.

. . . it was a case of me changing the display settings in the steam settings menu just before launching the game

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As an Amiga fan, it would be awesome to have the choice between a Jaguar XJ220 and a Lotus Esprit ! 😍

Your game is a dream! ❤️

Developer

I'm glad you like it!

I would like to add the Jaguar, but I can't find the sprites anywhere. Anyhow, they both have a different art style and they might look weird in this game, especially the Lotus.

I love it! Honest feedback - The upgrade/repair menu needs review/balancing, or like the original. Drop the repair mechanic (which could be good for a OutRun Rougelike? :) ) If you need PXL art support or OST remastering, new xbit tracks, I can "help" to some degree if you need it :)

Bless up for this release!  

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i think i read somewhere  that the pic of the" repair mechanic" is a pic of the developers Father who sadly passed away...it is more of a Tribute.

Apologies! I meant the game mechanic loop is confusing to me not the art. So sorry!

Sorry me,for misunderstanding

Developer(+1)

Thanks! Yeah, the repair/upgrade stuff seems a bit too much for some people. That's why there is also the Outrun mode. I'm also going to add an additional mode where you can drive from A to B without branches like Super Hang-On.

The repair/upgrade stuff is going to stay though, because I really like it. It's inspired by the original mode of Super Hang-On on the Genesis with a little bit of WRC in it. (Hence the time limit instead of the use of money.)

I may add an option to reduce the damage.

Can you draw a sprite of an 959 facing forward? 😆

Would be awesome if you can make it work on  smartypi so we Outrun Arcade owners can play it on the original cab. Alot of these arcades are made and i would not hesitate so buy it for a few hundred bucks

Developer

That would be awesome, but that means I have to rebuild the whole game from scratch. And I'm unfamiliar with the smartypi, so I don't think it is possible for me I'm afraid.

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Just need to be able to re-define the keys - I am sure I'm not alone wanting to drop this onto my home arcade, but some of the controls dont match up (for me).

Developer(+1)

Done!

in latest V 0.3.8 at the mechanic upgrade/repair screen the yellow square can not be moved (on xbox 360 gamepad)

Developer

Can you go up and down through the upgrades? And does the left joystick work to go left and right?

no,the yellow square wont move,still the upgrades are showing.,but cant chose nor upgrade.

It hanged and had to ctrl alt delete.

I only tried it once,will try again this evening.

Add the Porsche 959 cabriolet and its occupants as an option for us to play with.

Developer

I will if I have a sprite of it facing forward.

i just played the game and won the first race,Yellow square moved with xbox360-controller and i chose extra turbo.After chosing i could not move anymore and the game hanged.

ctrl alt delete to exit

Developer

I've changed some input stuff and I also added some values to the log file. If it hangs again, would you mind send me the log file? You can find it here: C:\Users\<UserName>\AppData\LocalLow\TurboCompany\Turbo Outrun Reimagined\Player.log

Oh and perhaps try hitting the keyboard arrows. That probably didn't work either...?

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i played latest version and it works great,no problems as far as i know. GREAT work.

Btw. A minor thing ,dunno if its possible.

Can you animate the tires of the Testarossa?

Maybe you can re-use the animation of the other red car IF possible.

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latest C-test version.

Xbox 360 gamepad and keyboard stopped working at beginning of the race.

Had to ctrl-alt-delete

Edit.

By copying "options.txt file" from previous version over the C-test version and overwriting, all works good again.

Developer

That's weird. 😆 I'll look into that. It should work without the file too.

Developer

Got it. It was a little oversight. I left the steering wheel option turned on, which disables the other inputs.

I'm going to upload the corrected version this evening and perhaps change some stuff so you can still pause the game and navigate with the keyboard.

Latest update works great.

Nice animation of the tires on the Testarossa :)

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wat a rush,pitty that i'm not that good.

very nice D-update

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Hi, on latest update (F) ,on name entry as soon as i hit the letter"P" the game moves on.

All else is working great👍

Developer

Oh right 😆 That's also the pause button. I used it to continue. I'll fix that next week. (I'll won't be home this weekend.)

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I was playing with 0.3.7e alpha for a bit.

Concerning the Classic/W.I.P. mode, it has a REALLY TIGHT clock, is that normal? That'd be great to have a diagram of the route also.

Other than that, the game is CLOSE TO PERFECT!

Developer

Yes! 😁 I had the Genesis/Mega Drive version of Super Hang-On in mind. It also had a very tight time limit, but! You can upgrade your bike in the original mode and use your upgraded bike in the arcade races with the time limit. You can do that too here.

Oh ok, we can use upgraded cars in W.I.P. mode? That's a game changer! I'd still make it a little bit less tight though, personally :-/ But I'll give it another try!

I would also add a diagram of the route and for Original Turbo OutRun Mode I would add a total time of the 5 races at the end of the race if possible. That'd be really awesome.

Developer

I'm probably going to add an option to choose a slightly less brutal time limit. ;)

I'll try to add such a diagram! I won't be able to make a nice screen like the one in the original OutRun, where you see a miniature car driving through all the stages with the scenery and stuff though. That means I have to draw. xD

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The one thing I would really love to see is to have an option for low res texture on the road, and chunky pixel gauges. The game looks fantastic and like a true super scaler except for the higher res elements, especially the road, that clash with that.


Maybe you cam fiddle with reshade to make it all look more low-res?

give it a try.

I like the clean pixelated look of everything else. Rather just try to have a low res texture on the road than make everything distorted.

Developer

I'll eventually add options for different resolutions/screen sizes. 😉 For now you could use the low-res mode, but that won't pixelate the UI.

Developer

I'm about to add a low res texture for the road itself for the next update. The lines on it will stay sharp. Maybe that's what you wanted?

Cool thanks, dont know till i see it i guess, but if it looks like the original arcade roads, that is what I mean

Hi Yves,
i love your game very much and play it every day. I convinced my dad last week to donate you 60€ and i hope you received it?!

Do you think it's possible to implement more weather like snow, rain, storm in the levels?

Greetings from Germany

Sirina

Developer

Hello Sirina,

That's really kind of you! Yes, I got a donation of 65 dollars from Jochen. Is that your dad?

Of course that's going to happen! I'm about to work on some new stages that will include different weather conditions like the ones you mentioned.  It might take a while though.

Hi Yves,
yes that's my dad. I hope it's a fair price for you?

But i think the biggest thing is that you're making a lot of people happy. Me too... :-)

Thank you for including more waether conditions in the new levels. :-)

I'd like to create a new car. Can you explain me how i can do this? Or are there any good manuals for creating sprites in the net?

Greetings Sirina

Developer

Hello Sirina,

Ofcourse that's fair! It's more than enough.

Here is a screenshot of the upcoming heavy snow storm effect. ;)



If I can find some extra time, I would like to explain it to you. The values part is the easiest and if you know which car you want, you can also tell me and I'll do the research and fill in all the values myself. The sprite part is of course the hardest. I suggest you use a program like paint, but more suited for pixel art for games and animation. It's easier when you can work with multiple layers. I'm also trying to draw one myself. It's a tedious job. I've pretty much finished the sprite of the car facing forward and I'm using that sprite to draw the car at an angle. I'm also using picures of the real car below my drawing so I can trace it. There is a website of a oldtimer dealership here in Belgium where they make 360° pictures of every car they have. That's where I get my pictures from, from that particular car that I'm drawing. I'll try to make some screenshots in the future so I can explain it even further.

Hi Yves,
oh my god that looks amazing!!! I loveit!! :-) Can't wait for it!

As far as i understand a sprite is nothing else than a pixel graphic?

Greetings Sirina

could you add in to the game the Space Harrier (Arcade) sprite as a playable racer/character?

would be fun to 'fly' through the game as the space harrier guy! :-)

Developer

With all that efford you've put in this, I just have to do this. Not sure when, but I will someday.

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Hi Yves,

This is an amazing game, the sound effects, the car selection, and the music are simply great.  If I may suggest to improve the game  I would add the following:

Adding more cars from the 80s, such as Chase HQ, General Lee Dodge Charger, Porch Carera, and the Automan's 80s TV series black Lamborgin Countash for driving at night time with the same electric engine noise. Also Kitt from Night Rider will be a great addition. 


Since road race is illegal I would add police cars chasing the game player and the police will stop you down and on the following level they will also start shooting at t uphe drivers car

Also chased by a police helicopter - sprites can be obtained from Chase HQ arcade game.  


Road block with police cars, and the only way to proceed is to drive up on a tow truck or trailer at high speed lunching the car into the air.

 

A level crossing  (train crossing car drivers road) where a railway line and a road meet each other, same as above to keep going further the only way is to drive up on a tow truck or trailer at high speed lunching the car into the air. 


Stopping in petrol station for fueling or fixing.


Driving inside a trailer to hide from the police or to replace the car or driving the trailer, similar to Knight Rider.


Similar to the video game Spy Hunter, stopping the car at the harbor, and switching to a powerboat for a boat race similar to Miami Vice, and for an amazing atmosphere utilising the Miami Vice sound track. 


Adding CRT monitor filter, examples here https://forums.libretro.com/t/cyberlab-death-to-pixels-shader-preset-packs/35606  I can suggest you the best filters if interested

If interested I can add more ideas


I am an average user with Photoshop, I'll try to design a car.


Video clip of car launched at high speed from a tow truck 


I think the images of the cars below can be downloaded for free or by taking a print screen 


Auto man's Lamborgini Countash 

https://youtu.be/5Q528VJuORY?si=8yO4OAdeo1uwQADa

https://youtu.be/J98Kb55ZWLM?si=zTDE8DzD5XVtCtMJ


Kitt  Pontiac Firebird 1982- 360°

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/pontiac-firebird-kitt-1982-d56185c31fa5444f828a1...


https://3dmodels.org/3d-models/pontiac-firebird-knight-rider/#360view



Jaguar XJ220 1992 - 360°

https://3dmodels.org/3d-models/jaguar-xj220-1992/

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/jaguar-xj220-c66c15ab194643ee994ba5bd73aab15b

Developer

Hi Magroc,

Thanks for the feedback! I probably won't be able to do all your suggestions (like switching to a boat), it certainly gives me some inspiration.

I will add police chases at one point. Not sure how far I will take it though. It will be something between a brief encountering like in the original game and a full blown chase like in Need for Speed. (I won't be adding the shooting stuff though.)

I certainly would like to add the following cars: Porsche Carrera/930, and KITT from Knight Rider. Maybe the Jaguar as well. Thanks for the links to the 3D models! And if you're able to, you can certainly try to draw a car!

I'm about to add fuel consumption in my new game mode: cruising. You'll have to stop at a gas station to add more fuel and perhaps repair it at a garage.

The desktop version runs in low resolution and the web version does not detect Xbox joysticks well

Developer(+1)

It looks like that the game changes your resolution. The UI isn't supposed to be blurry. I'm about to add some resolution options in the next update.

I know that the web version doesn't work with gamepads. It has something to do with the way the input system is configured.  Consider the web version as a demo. It's to give you an idea what the game is all about.

What is the option, because I don't see it, it still looks bad.

Developer(+1)

It's not available yet because I still have to program it. But I'll do my best to add the option in the next update.

It will take a while though. I'm doing this after work and after taking care of my family.

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