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It's not needed to solve 8 (from what I remember!)  but can happen accidentally as you're shuffling things around. I won't spoil 7 for you, but  lemme know if you want another hint in due course :)

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Awesome!! Nothing you said contained the idea, as far as I could tell, but however it happened you got me thinking about possible mechanics I was missing, and the one possibility that dawned on me was the way to solve it. Thank you!