When China illegally occupied the eastern islands of the Hoang Sa (April 1956), used force to seize the western islands of the Hoang Sa(January 1974), and some reefs in the Truong Sa (March 1988 and January 1995), the Vietnamese government in each period strongly condemned and resolutely protested. That's proof that China "OCCUPS" those two islands. Honestly, you think you've owned them since ancient times, but you can't specify when or for how long. That's just making things up and trying to claim them as your own. How pathetic
You lecture me about "history," yet your own historical knowledge is a complete joke. Let's look at the actual timeline:
1. Before your country even existed as a state: As early as the Han Dynasty (2nd century BC), Chinese people had already discovered, named, and lived on the South China Sea islands. During this entire period, the northern part of what you now call Vietnam was literally a province/county directly governed by Chinese dynasties. How can a state claim "ancient sovereignty" over islands where Chinese people were already living before that state even came into existence?
2. The "Vietnam" name itself: The name "Vietnam" (Việt Nam) didn't even exist until 1804, when it was officially granted by Emperor Jiaqing of China's Qing Dynasty.
3. Your official betrayal in modern history: In 1958, North Vietnamese Prime Minister Pham Van Dong sent an official diplomatic note to China explicitly recognizing China's sovereignty over the Paracel (Xisha) and Spratly (Nansha) Islands. Official Vietnamese geography textbooks up until 1974 clearly marked them as Chinese territory. You only flip-flopped and backstabbed after receiving tens of billions in Chinese aid and unifying your country.
From taking massive historical aid and then tearing up official diplomatic promises, to this game creator accepting free localization from Chinese volunteers and then turning around to provoke players—backstabbing after getting what you want seems to be a habit for you. Learn your own white-and-black history before trying to lecture others.
The historical presence or passage of a nation's maritime and island territories this does not equate to the establishment of national sovereignty, because sovereignty requires a state that continuously, peacefully, and openly manages, exploits, and exercises power.
According to official historical documents and research, China during the Han Dynasty never administered, established sovereignty over, or had any historical basis to claim to have occupied or managed the Hoang Sa and Truong Sa Islands.
Ancient Chinese historical records and maps from the Han Dynasty through subsequent feudal dynasties contain no records or administrative maps confirming sovereignty over the Hoang Sa and Truong Sa Islands.
Vietnam was the first state in history to legally possess, manage, exploit, and exercise de facto sovereignty over the Hoang Sa and Truong Sa Islands từ Centuries ago, through naval forces such as the Hoang Sa Fleet and the Bac Hai Fleet under the Nguyen Dynasty and previous dynasties.
Honestly, it is not my responsibility to give you a free history lesson or fill in the blanks your country's school textbooks conveniently erased.
My original point was simple: disrespecting unpaid Chinese volunteers and provoking players after benefiting from their free labor is pure hypocrisy. Yet, you chose to derail the discussion into history, hoping to deflect from your bad faith.
If you actually cared about history and international law, you wouldn't ignore legal estoppel, Prime Minister Pham Van Dong’s official 1958 diplomatic note recognizing China's sovereignty, or your own pre-1974 official maps and geography textbooks. Citing vague "lecturers" doesn't change signed diplomatic archives or international law precedents.
I have zero interest in wasting more time arguing over a sanitized school curriculum. Believe whatever fairy tales you need to feel better, but facts remain facts. I’m done here.
It’s hilarious how you preach that "history is a science," yet your entire response reads like a copy-pasted, heavily sanitized Wikipedia summary, completely crumbling the moment real historical archives and international law are brought up.
Let’s lay out the legal and historic realities for anyone watching:
1. The "Hoang Sa Fleet" Myth: Your precious "Hoang Sa Fleet" was merely a local Nguyen Dynasty group salvaging shipwreck debris and collecting sea produce. Under international law, informal salvage activities do not equate to state sovereignty. Meanwhile, China's official administration dates back centuries earlier—as recorded in the Song Dynasty text Wujing Zongyao (《武经总要》), Chinese naval forces were already conducting routine patrols over the Paracel Islands.
2. Cairo Declaration & 1946 Reclaiming: You quoted the Cairo Declaration while conveniently cutting out key context. Following WWII, in 1946, China officially dispatched warships—including the Taiping (太平) and Yongxing (永兴)—to legally reclaim, garrison, and set up sovereignty markers on both the Paracel and Spratly Islands under the Cairo and Potsdam Declarations. This legal takeover was fully recognized by Allied powers at the time.
3. Legal Estoppel & Signed Archives: In 1958, Prime Minister Pham Van Dong sent an official diplomatic note explicitly recognizing China's sovereignty. Under international law (such as the 1931 Eastern Greenland precedent), a state cannot legally retract signed diplomatic commitments. No amount of copy-pasting or emotional breakdown overrides signed state archives.
4. The Core Issue: My original point was always about your community enjoying free labor from Chinese volunteers while backstabbing players. You derailed this into politics because you couldn't defend that hypocrisy.
Spamming the comment section with unhinged screaming and copy-pasted Wikipedia paragraphs only proves you have zero logical arguments left. I strongly suggest taking a breather, as your emotional state seems severely unhinged right now. I have no obligation to educate someone who treats a sanitized curriculum as divine truth. Believe whatever fairy tales keep you sane—the rest of the world relies on facts. I’m done here.
In 1943, the global context was undergoing complex developments, and World War II had entered its most brutal phase. To consider several important world issues related to territorial borders, representatives from Great Britain, the United States, and China met in Cairo (Egypt) on November 27, 1943, in what history calls the Conference.
This conference concluded with a joint statement, which included the following passage:“Japan must be removed from all Pacific islands that it has seized or occupied since the start of World War I in 1914 And all the territories that Japan had seized from China, such as Manchuria, Taiwan, and Penghu, would be returned to the Republic of China.”. Thus, China's territory has been clearly demarcated, and there is no connection whatsoever to the sovereignty of the Hoang Sa and Truong Sa Islands.
Furthermore, the Cairo Declaration did not mention the sovereignty of any nation over the Paracel and Spratly Islands Because these two archipelagos have been under the sovereignty of the Vietnamese State for a long time, at least since the 17th centur There is historical evidence proving that sovereignty belongs to the State of Vietnam. Next, in 1945, as World War II gradually drew to a close, the world had many issues to address with the victorious powers, such as territorial disputes and the division of spheres of influence.
bạn à nói chuyện cho lịch sự nào. Giờ mình bảo bạn bị tẩy não thì bạn có tin không? tất nhiên là không rồi, sách báo bạn học từ nhỏ làm gì nói hoàng sa trường sa là của việt nam. Mình có rất nhiều bạn bè trung quốc và hầu như các bạn ấy đều khẳng định sử học ở trường khác với sử của chúng mình, thế nên bất đồng quan điểm là chuyện đương nhiên thôi. Người ta tin cái người ta muốn tin, mình cũng không ép buộc bạn nghe theo mình được và bạn cũng vậy. Vậy nên hãy vui vẻ đón nhận tựa game nhé dù sau game cũng đâu có đề cập gì đến chính trị đâu, bạn muốn thì chơi thôi.
Have a good day.
You are right, let's keep this polite. I agree that our textbooks are different, as every country has its own national narrative to maintain. To be honest, I didn't want to discuss political issues too much at first either, as arguing about them here is ultimately endless.
Originally, all we wanted was to approach the game with goodwill and enjoy it peacefully. However, the core issue is that the author publicly provoked our political stance on social media (including Chinese platforms). Doing this after accepting the completed translation from Chinese volunteers is highly disrespectful and hypocritical.
As for whether I will continue playing, let me borrow a concept from Marxist literary theory: literature and art belong to social ideology. A creator's stance, perspective, and values will consciously or unconsciously permeate their work. Whether explicit or implicit, a work inevitably carries the author's cognition and attitude towards the world.
Therefore, I will not play a game whose creator openly disrespects my country's sovereignty and dignity.
Have a good day to you too.