Not given up on scrolling, just been trying to find where the limits are. Folk may expect anything they throw at it to work, but if you ask too much of it, it will glich. For example, setting the H scroller to 8 rows and colour to NONE, then pre-injecting the colours seems nicer for a stock C64. I am still in a learning process of what works best then I need to make ti all work in my own programming macros... I keep the options open though since C64 Ultimate has no problem handling it. So, not given up, just not sure what I need to optimise, I leave that for the end user to figure out since all the tools are inplace. Indeed the F2 dump is working correctly, you're just not able to see the 'data' as it were as that would be unreadable.