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as a certified AI hater, I actually mostly agree with all of this. I do see artistic merit in exploring the latent space of machine learning, combing through the machine's hallucinations to find something strangely beautiful. 

but I don't think there's anyway around the fact that if you don't put these disclaimers about no AI, you're not really going to get a lot of that... you're going to get sludge. you're going to get people who see the craft of creation as an obstacle rather than the point using AI to pump out art where all the decisions were made by a machine whose entire purpose is to create a randomized average of art. 

I'm no copyright supporter by any means, but it's hard to ignore the malice in big tech's use of artists' data--they don't seek to help us, only to replace us. 

I would like to go back to the days of ganbreeder--I played with it a lot myself back in the day, and it was really fun!--but I don't know how we can do that without opening the door to the right wing art haters. I hate to cede ground to them, but there's no way around the fact that they have claimed the territory. 

I'm not sure how to reclaim machine learning as a genuine artistic tool without supporting their agenda when the people making the largest and most prominent models are right wingers themselves. 

i absolutely agree that noAI tagging effectively functions as an anti-shovelware filter nowadays. to me it’s kinda like asset flipping, in that undoubtedly there are devs making good work that’s only possible through pre-made and stock assets, even though the overwhelming majority isn’t. how do you separate chaff from wheat? i don’t think it’s possible in a large platform: passing judgement on each individual work is unfeasible. maybe with smaller collectives, webrings and the like.

ultimately i think the way to not be lumped with the lame mainstream right-wing crowd is to just make work that’s obviously ideologically different. it’s not really a matter of Reclaiming AI into a leftist technology through putting together the greatest talent show this town has ever seen, but just like: i’m so deeply uninterested in the themes and aesthetics of right-wing creative production that i just have to put faith in my audience to understand what i’m doing, to see the existence of an artistic vision, the use of the medium as a deliberate choice. from the reception of my work, i believe i’ve been successful, even if i do still feel nervous at times.

i think it’s reductive to say the medium is unsalvageable because of the ideology of the corporations / startups in the space. in fact i believe openai and the like benefit from the perception that they are synonymous with AI and that it is and can only be a service provided by big corporations. when in reality people have been running open source models themselves and training their own stuff etc. perception has never really been about truth, though, which is why it’s complicated.