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Thanks, the blue one has received some major changes though, you can see an almost up to date version on my twitter: https://twitter.com/ApapappaGames/status/1279597074846285824

So yeah I don't know what I'll be doing regarding Kickstarter and Patreon, I'll be trying the side project thing first.

But if I was to run a Patreon, I would run it like sort of a tip jar to help fund my games, and make it abundantly clear that there are no benefits for becoming a patron.

I would also make it clear that you should ONLY become a patron if you have NO OTHER use for that money.

The reason for there being no benefits for patrons is simply:

I don't feel like I have anything to give back and I can't really add much more workload / pressure.

This is why I feel like the side project thing is best for me because this way I will 100% give something back.

If I don't finish the side project, noone can buy it.

This, of course, also adds extra workload / pressure but it is the kind of pressure I can more easily deal with.

Anyway, enough rambling, sorry if the post became a bit long. (I didn't even get into Kickstarter yet since that's a whole different kind of beast)

Thanks for the feedback and good luck wishes. :)

i think you could work out a nice patreon, actually.

you could have tippers gain advanced access to updates, or beta material, whatever's on your plate that you need direct input on ( like these sprites, for instance ) 

you could have a regualr build here on itchio, and a " nightly " build for patroen users only, that's how the porn game devs do it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I mean, some of those I could probably manage to do but there are issues with this:

1. It adds more things to think about which definitely won't help as I already have 5 trillion things to think about.

2. Releasing beta or advanced access stuff is not really something I'm keen on doing because once I put something out there, for example: something I don't want to show everyone yet, then it's very likely going to be everywhere, like screenshots, maybe a video, anything.

And this ruins the surprise for everyone, and I've stated many times I'm not a fan of spoilers.

And sure, once I release the game, everything will be out there anyway but I just don't want stuff out there before it's actually finished unless I post it myself.

3. Only using patreon for sprite feedback and things like that kind of makes my discord server less valuable as that is where I do this stuff right now.


By nightly builds, do you mean after the game has been released or before it's fully released?

If you mean before, then #2 applies here as well.


So there you have a few of the problems I have with these things.

I don't mean to be all negative about your ideas or anything and I appreciate you trying to help.

But hopefully this helps you see where I'm coming from.