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About LSHRM & Magic Ring Sticky

A topic by Crimson Bird created 50 days ago Views: 7,152 Replies: 71
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Developer (1 edit) (+10)

I know there's not news about Half Life 3 but I would like to share why LSHRM is actually removed. I want to make Magic Ring with all four years of story. Work on it will begin after all current projects are done.

I would like you to make note of a few things. If you don't like any of the stuff mentioned below it's better if you skip this one.

  • No help from my end to complete any questlines You have to rely on events happening in other games and whatever hint is there in the game.
  • Story is going to be really dark sometimes. Like a few character suffering because of a few wrong choices you make.
  • You will be able refuse the ring from Ryoko but the consequence will not be something that you will appreciate if you have played LSHRM. For example, Reiko will be Kunio's girlfriend, Mr. Yamada will still try to make Momoko's life hell, Junsa life doesn't turn out well, if you marry Nobuko character... it will not end well for Masuo, Nagito will be there to cause more suffering to Masuo.
  • There will be so many so many places to be and timelines changes which many will find overwhelming.
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I know that Magic Ring is your top work and I knew Ringman would be the game where u finally told us this amazing story and world. So Im glad to know you will get to develop it. This means the content for Ringman until now will be replaced or that you will continue it but under the name Magic Ring? Take care Lags, ur worldbuilding and characters are amazing. Im really excited to uncover it all when the time comes.

Developer

Yes... it will be added to Magic Ring with a few changes.

It feels sad to hear that, like our hearts are being turned upside down hahaha…  like repeating an old story that opens up again (the moment where you decide to make ringman leave the magic ring)

It makes what you created feel kind of pointless if that’s the case (at least in my opinion). But it’s your decision, and we can’t really do anything about it.

But will the mechanism be the same as LSHR? Will the content from LSHR be added back into Magic Ring? And how will the gameplay work are you allowed to give us a little sneak peek?

Good luck for the resurrection of Magic Ring!!

Developer (4 edits) (+1)

Why sad? Magic Ring is back and it's gonna have everything that Ringman offered.

It's not pointless since help me make a better code.

Yeah, significant changes.

  • No questline during ghost hunting job.
  • It will be well paying compare to what we had in Ringman. (Depends on your role)
  • As there will be day and night cycle, no time limit but the amount of money for identification and banishment will be reduced over time once clock reached 12AM(will be 0 at 8AM but can still try to find the ghost).
  • For first two year, you will be assistant. Your job will be to wait in the truck till Rumia find the ghost room or tell her where the ghost room is. Bring her items as she demands them or identify the ghost yourself and tell her. After that the contract will end you will get 15% of what Rumia earns.
  • On third year and second half of fourth year, you will be ghost hunter like in Ringman game but you will need to find each and every assistant including Aoi (She will not stop you from hiring any one else this time). And you choose how much cut you want Ryoko to have but must not be 0(unless the contract fails).
  • Getting caught once will fail the contract.
  • Failing contract will not pay you a single coin and you will lose items unless you have assistant. Truck assistant = No item loss. Site Assistant = You will be paid for whatever objectives are done.
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It really does sound ambitious and im all in for it. As far as I understand these are good news no? Ringman content gets updated and improved with the story and timelines u had in mind making it A bigger and richer game. Being able to play as masuo through your 4 years history will be a charm, and I cant support you enough. 

If there are so many quests, plots, outcomes, timelines (which im excited as hell, even without you helping us), the quest reset will be more specific (like resetting only a part of a quest or reset from a branching point, something like a scroll from lady mystery with a road that branches and we can return to either point, or will there be a different saves option? 

And about the year system, will it advance when you reach certain points of the history no? The whole night and day cycle is not a time limit like after 300 days year will change.

Also, the lore and background for character profiles will change? or they will mantain their relations and backstories, all of the timelines you explained, etc.

Best of luck.

Developer (1 edit)

Well game will run for 4 years. An year will have 4 months/seasons. A month will be consisting of 25 days. This year system will be applicable to a few special maps such as past college and when you got back to Hailey's time.

After completing year 4, there will be two outcomes. 

  • If you refused the ring, you will see ending cutscene and you have to begin a new game.
  • If you get the ring, a cutscene will play, after which you can continue playing but year doesn't progress over 4.

Characters will have whatever backstories they have, just the questlines will not have sequence. A few quests you played in Ringman will appear in year 1 or 2.

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Alright so it will be a time-limit of some kind, but no limitations on when to do stuff, like the game is not rushing us to do stuff no? Or it will be like a persona game where some events are only available until a certain date. I understand since we start as assistant and at year 3 we become a hunter, some stuff will change surely, but since it will be a huge game with a lot of stuff to do and go I hope it doesnt like rush us to do stuff xD.

And regarding the progression, if the questlines wont have a sequence, it will be possible to do multiple saves, reset from a certain point (like when a month starts or when a day starts)? Will the game have some kind of checklist to know (not to know what to do exactly, but to have an idea of completion, like a percentage, a list..?) 
Im really excited for this project, it sounds, wow, sorry if im making too many questions but this is like, wow xD

Developer

Questline will be available after a date. Most will not have any time limit but a few will.  Like Hinata's and Ai's quest.

No need for multiple saves as animations will stay unlocked and you will be able to go back to a specific date once getting Aya. Will have a gallery with character names and their animations names(will be ???? if you didn't unlock it).

Ah alright, Ava being the Goat. Im more at peace knowing we will have the tools to go back to specific dates to redo stuff and explore everything we want. Really cool, hugs!

Is magic ring gonna be its own game and when is lshrm coming back is magic ring going to he the same game as ring man?

Developer

Read my comment about what changes will be there when ghost hunting part is added to the game.

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Lemme borrow your copy of lsh tho

Ringman obviously takes place when masuo has taken the ring. So I assume alot of that stuff we have been playing is gonna become a branch path in Magic Ring? So long as all the stuff that ring man had is still there I don't mind one bit, you have the timeline jumping stuff already in place so hopefully going back and fourth between decision points will be seamless. I think the assistant opening sounds cool.

Developer

Yes, it's all gonna be there in Magic Ring. You will be able to change timelines as you unlock them and go back in time (Note that if you played game till Autumn of 3rd year, you will not be able to go past that date).

So Autum of 3rd year is something like a point of no return? And if we complete the game and end a timeline, then ryoko resets it all the way to the start? or we can keep playing to see all the timelines? For example, we do the Riku timeline, it ends, and then we can keep playing on that timeline to see stuff or Ryoko locks it off and we go back to the start of the game?

Developer(+1)

No, what I meant is that you will not be able to go in future. That is, let's say you played the game until 10th Spring of 4th year, you can go back at any point before that time but never in 11th Spring Year 4, Summer Year 4, etc.

If you complete the game depending on a few factors you can still continue playing trying to complete all side quests. Those timeline with all lovers are not there just those lovers will be available after doing a quest. You will be able to choose which lover you want after that quest. Everything else will remain same.

This is amazing—it feels like a massive indie game. I absolutely loved the story when I played Ringman before. If this is anything like that, I'd buy it right now if I could. I've always been a huge fan of pixel art games because their incredible stories create such immersive experiences. My first time playing Ringman was when I stumbled upon it online and got hooked instantly. Among all similar games I've played, this one holds the record for both playtime and my highest rating. I hope the developer stays focused and creates even better games. Honestly, AAA titles don't move me much anymore—what truly matters to me is the story and world-building within a game. Crimson Bird, I adore you so much. Please keep going!

As I suspected. if ringman changed its name to Magic Ring.. YEYYYY... Glad to hear that, with the expanded content it makes sense to change the name because if it's stuck at Ringman the alternating Timeline plan seems a bit off for LSHRM. I can't wait to see it later after you finish these 2 projects.

Developer

LSHRM was whole story I wanted to tell fitted into just one year. I think it's better if I do all four years of it.

That's actually 4. HTA, LSH, CB Remake and Survive Remake(thanks to Unity security exploit).

wait SurVive Remake its real now???!! Horrayy..

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When you explained that Masuo had 9 lovers in his previous life, I was confused. Is there another timeline besides Timeline 0, 1, 2, 3? Luckily, you explained that. I understand the plot a little bit.

Will those 4 games be completed first before returning to the Magic Ring?

Developer

Depending on which lover you chose, their previous version counter part will be in the timeline 0. 1,2,3 are for when you do something that Ryoko never expected.

ahh I think there will be a lot of changes to the mechanics and plot. let me investigate.. Hwhwhw

Developer (2 edits)

Yeah ghosthunting may change a lot. I have few ideas but will see in future. I'm also removing a few of Masuo's animation to work finish these projects quickly. I know it's a few quests in Magic Ring are gonna be difficult to figure out but it's better not having hints about them so actual game can be in the development soon.

Hell yes, i like working for and earning my spot in life, this will be the same.  I like it! Keep killin it boss!!  Everything earn is so much sweeter!

Ahhhh i was looking forward to what came next for ringman edition but if you've finally gotten the drive to revive your initial magic ring plans then all the more we'll support you. It'll make the wait worth it. 

I'll be excited to see Rebecca/Rumia in her prime

Developer

You have crush on that one girl who can't be a marriage candidate and will not be there after year 2.

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Crimson bird, well, we’ll have to wait for you to make the magic ring game. Good luck with that. We will be waiting for you to finish it and hope it turns out as you plan since I am a big fan of your games, although a bit sad about LSHRM. But I think you will do better with the magic ring game, and we will be able to enjoy it as always. Greetings from Latin America. If you keep going like this, this game will reach many more people, even if it’s a bit perverted and not everyone will like it, but it entertains and excites several of us to see how the story will develop, aside from the sexual aspects.

I’d like to ask about Masuo’s family tree because I’m a bit confused about it.

  • Masuo’s grandmother (Sayuri) has the surname Kuno, but Masuo’s father has the surname Karasuyama, and Jintarou shares the same surname as him. Did Masuo’s grandmother marry twice? Sorry if this sounds like a silly question, but I’m curious why she kept the surname Kuno after marrying Mitsuo Karasuyama.

  • Also, what is Michelle/Misae’s surname? I couldn’t find it anywhere in the CSV. And she’s related to Honoka, right?

Developer

No she didn't. If you are referring to Sayuri Kuno college then that college existed before her marriage to Mistuo Karasuyama. And if it's about her name is Hailey's Adventure then they  were not married at that point.

I don't remember what surname I gave but it's not important as she is not gonna appear much in Ringman. Yes, she is cousin of Honoka and sister of that first boss you beat in Anko's gameplay. The only reason I included her in this game is because I want to correct that Tatsuka will not help Taichi as she knows he is Anko's friend. Her design will change when you see her Sayuri Kuno college by the way.

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Ahh, I see. I was looking at it from two perspectives, Sayuri Kuno College and when she appeared in HTA. So, is Jintarou actually her son, or is Daisuke the only child they had? And why does she dislike Masuo’s family when that’s her own family?

Ahh, interesting… I just remembered that Tatsuka avoids anyone who’s friends with Anko. that’s actually pretty funny. I’m looking forward to her new design.

Developer (1 edit)

Jintarou is her nephew. She? You mean Sayuri? No she doesn't hate Masuo or her son.  She is in contact with Mitsuri. Sayuri was even suppose to appear on street map near Aoi's work in Ringman (she is big fan of her manga) offering Masuo 2000 coins each times she shows up. His grandfather Mitsuo however, does hate his son and his family for turning his back on the village(it will be explained by himself in a questline in Magic Ring).  Kuno family has severed ties with Sayuri after she decided to marry Mitsuo much to her father's dismay. Unlike his family, Hiroshi considers Masuo part of the family that's why he became friends with him. I know a lot of family drama is going on but it will be explained in some questline when you play Magic Ring.

Family Tree for reference:-

Sayuri + Mitsuo -----> Daiksuke

Daisuke + Junim ------- Masuo & Mitsuri

Sayuri's unnamed brother + his wife -------- Jintarou & unnamed siblings

Jintarou + his wife -------> Hiroshi & Ayune



I was referring to Misae's new design. She is using Tatsuka's in this game.

Ahh, so that’s how the family tree actually. I guess I misunderstood it before. Masuo’s family situation is really complex. I didn’t expect that it was Mitsuo who hated him Family, not Sayuri. Hmm… it’s pretty crazy if the Kuno family hated Sayuri just because she married Mitsuo.

Alright, this is going to be really interesting once Magic Ring starts development. I can’t wait for you to finish all your games and begin working on this one. Take care, LAGS, we’re looking forward to good news from you.

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Oh I see. I made this tree for the karasuyama family for the wiki we're re-doing. Didn't know who jintarou was at that point tho. Is it correct? I also made one for the Sakurai family (current timeline), the Hirakawa family (brain exploding with how complicated their lore is honestly xD) and the Yamada family.

Developer(+1)

This is correct. You can update it once Ayune(Hiroshi's sister), Jintarou (his father) and Kaemi (Junmi's sister) are introduced in Magic Ring.

See if you got it right.




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Lol, here are the ones I did JAJAJAJA xD how the hell did we have the same idea. I didnt get into Timeline 2 on the yamada tho. also didnt know the name for rose and anko father.

Developer (1 edit)

Don't know. Created these when I posted that image with character list a few months ago. Edited them a moment ago to add more details.

Also a little correction, Akahana Onizuka.

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Are these family trees alright? The hirakawa was the most tricky with the clones and all that.

Ah, Rose name is Akahana Onizuka? 

Developer

You should make a few corrections.

  • OG Dahlia comes from Himawari.
  • Mei and Mr. Hirakawa are not siblings. Because he was already in his 30s when he met Himawari. Making her looks young will not make sense since she doesn't have any special essence so she is just made cousins.
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Yeah I also thought it was weird for mei to be her sibling since he is old as fuck HAHAHA. I will correct it. Dahlia OG comes from himawari genes mixed with Dahlia's original body right?



By the way, if you want to take a look at what we've done so far, I uploaded the pdf with all the things we have done. 
https://www.mediafire.com/file/sqyh1ceyq1rno5q/Lustful_Spirit_Hunt_Ringman_WIKI....

Developer (1 edit)

Wait until HTA final update to find that out.

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It's looking good so far. With this thing people are not gonna have problem with Magic Ring.

what about mei-mei hasegawa, she is junmi sister right? did she appear in magic ring? i think you mentioned her before

Developer

Not forgotten about her just wanted to used Kaemi name as someone who is in Kagome's sex club. His aunt will have different name and yes, she will appear in Magic Ring somewhere in year 2.

awww.. very interesting.. kagome club sex? oh hell nah ahahaha

Developer

Yeah, the classroom Kunio uses becomes her sex club room. It wasn't implemented back then as I only had two animations ready at the time.

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I’ve played the LSHRM before and it was absolutely amazing! Now I just Purchase LSH and I love it so much. Thanks for making these games

Developer

I'm glad you like it. Hope you will have fun with future udpates.

i guess ill have to use 100% of my brain to understand all of the lore

Hi, I was wondering if there's any chance of a legacy version of LSHRM being released?

Developer

No! There's gonna be changes in ghosthunting when Magic Ring is launched.

I'm confused, magic ring is many games in one? Also, does that mean the whole plot will be scrapped and rewritten, by sad stuff you mean how I got the two girls killed in the asylum? I feel like it's a bombardment of info I'm not getting at all.

Developer

Ghost hunting will be a job available in the Magic Ring. The event happened in LSHRM will be there in Magic Ring just that no questline will be active during ghost hunt. Bad things will happen to Masuo or people he loves if bad decisions are taken.

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Developer

It's what itch.io provides. Visa used to work but it's removed as erotic content is damaging their brand.

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let me see if I got the idea you're planning. So, magic ring will be a game where you can either ghost hunt like if it was it's own minigame, while the major point of the game is to explore and do quest like LSHRM after the ghost hunt? Like, instead of ghost hunt and later explore, you either do one or the other? Why though if I can ask you that, I'm not exactly against it but what's the reason for the sudden change? Will recruits still be a thing, new ghost, or assistants. What about that whole marrying and doing a bad action (could I have a LSHRM reference of this). I'm just confuse and slow on the subject. Also about the remakes of your other game, will it also be inside magic ring, like 4 games in 1. Will I have to buy it again or something?


You also said you won't be giving us hints anymore, will stuff change from the original story or will the quest I know will the stay the same. I'm so curious about it all and kind of excited for discovering your new game, but I'm so confused at the same time it's honestly pretty amazing, haven't had this feeling since ps3 games honestly

also probably answered this for why the sudden name change, are you still the original dev or was it changed? (if it's not important, my bad)

Developer

Magic Ring was the original idea. I saw this erotic game witch hunt coming a long way and decided to make it play like LSH and add quests as ghost hunting was gonna be part of Magic Ring.

It's not a 4 in 1 game. There will be jobs players can do to pay for housing and other expenses. Ghost hunting is part of that and as a result LSHRM is integrated into Magic Ring. Recruits will be a thing but you will need to find meet each one of them and ask to be your assistants. Even Aoi.

Yeah, all quests will remain same unless they contradict with the plot. As far as I know, all the ones I've made so far are doing according to the plot.

perfect, thanks. Also, good luck on the project and take your time with it, it'll be amazing when ready to play

I found that my favorite LSHRM page has been deleted. I'm really sad. I really like LSHRM. Has the LSHRM project been cancelled?

Developer

Will be part of Magic Ring with changes.

Very excited for Magic Ring. Prob hard to give an estimate but when can we expect smth to come out or do u plan on releasing when everything is finished?

Also will there be smth like a glossary for the characters? I'm quite bad with remembering names and the wiki is no more to my knowledge. 

Also I've read u wanna make it so everything needs to be discovered by the player. 

This kinda makes me think how u wanna do that cause I think if u wanna keep the player completely lost it will lead to frustrations. An idea I had there would be to have the "tree" with all the decisions and missions hidden but if the player completes smth it shows up so the player knows he is on the right/wrong or any path and not just randomly stumbling over things.

Developer (1 edit) (+1)

I'm going to add in game wiki for significant characters that appear in the game.

Will see about it once current projects are done so I will have plenty of time to think through everything. Stuff will not be random. You explore things and you find events. Those events will not go any where until you make some progress through it (with a few exceptions that affect main plot for example... getting the ring, helping Hailey to take down Mena, Hinata's quest). These quests from main plot will be visible in message app as they are available.

With how intertwine a few quests are making a tree structures gonna take a lot of time. I will need to get rid of a few content to add that feature.

Sad about LSHRM but looking forward to seeing it all come together!

Hope to see the sexy shirtless, pantless Masuo once again in the future.

It might be a silly question and maybe I misunderstood, but wasn’t Magic Ring a game you released before and then put aside? Because I read something like “Magic Ring is back,” so I’m a bit confused and not sure if it’s something new.

Developer

It was shortened in the form of LSH Ringman game. Now it will back to it's full story as Magic Ring in the future.

Thank you for the explanation, I now understand what you explained about that. I deleted the thread to keep it a secret, I don't think many people read it after 20 minutes and I'm sorry to make you explain the details. But this really makes me curious about how the Magic Ring will be made. Every painting you make in LSHT and LSHR will have its own quest. That's amazing!!

Developer

Just wanted to correct all the information as people refer to your documents to understand lore and walkthroughs.

Okay, I'll keep it a secret at least until HTA finished. For Hirakawa family tree, I'll delete it temporarily.

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God, how hard it is to wait for an update, I watch it every day in hopes that an update should come out ((((