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Uh the new update will clear some of that up... Go ahead and downvote me for letting ppl know the NTR/prostitution is cleared up lol

Though it is up to the player if they are cool with it.

Honestly there are quite a few AVN's that have SA yet are still considered vanilla.(sleep sex and mind control games are hella questionable) Trying to get a clear definition for tags just sounds like a pain. Talk to 8 ppl and you will have 16 definitions of NTR. So there will always be devs saying something isn't (e.g.) ntr and there will always be community members screaming ntr

I'd suggest ppl give the new update a chance but if you don't like it, it might be time to move on if its not for you. It sucks to leave a VN behind, but it might be for the better, or just wait for it's completion so you are not surprised by tags. Personally I didn't think too much about the SA scene when I saw it but I can see why ppl will take issue with it. It would be better if it were avoidable

SafeForSure4 days ago

My problem is he turned the player into a rapist and with two characters I active avoided because I don't like psychopaths and Ayase and Noa both are. I don't see him clearing this up because you can't retroactive give consent to rape also now you see all kind of weirdos claiming she's a sub she likes it. That is bullshit it was 100% rape and I hate it when I'm forced to be a rapist in a game.

Crazedpupp3 days ago (1 edit) (+1)

Yeah having the sexual assault be avoidable would be nice and wouldn't be that hard to do. It happened and then Noa was gone the rest of the update, dev could easily rewrite that scene since currently nothing has come of it. I mean the Chika stuff was kind of sorted

But the dev might end up doing something else you don't like and if you dislike Ayase (I actually like her lol her miharu are my favs) then maybe the vn isn't for you. And I mean that in the most polite way. I get wishing things were different but I also don't want to tell the dev what to do with their story.

But all that said, dev might change up the scene. Have it be avoidable or write it as more consensual, or they might keep it as is, all we can do is wait and see or move on. I'm back to being a free member on patreon atm so idk if there is fallout over there

SafeForSure1 day ago(+1)

There are some nice girls to and the story is interesting. I avoided Chica, Ayase and Noa so why we get a forced rape scene with characters I actually avoided is beyond me. I like three of the girls a lot and since we could avoid the rest I didn't care but making me forced to rape someone is just sick.

Crazedpupp1 day ago (1 edit) (+1)

Yeah I get why Ayase might not be someone's fav but I've liked most of her and MC's interactions from chapter 2 on, they have just seemed affectionate for the most part idk the relationship feels real to me. She seems less psychopath and more mistrustful sheltered girl that's lost loved ones.

I think 0.4 might fix Chika for some that felt iffy about her after .3 well unless you already disliked her before her reveal. There is no "ntr" scene so might be worth checking her path just in case.

Miharu is great and I am liking Kaho even if she is suspect.

But yeah, getting the scene with Noa despite avoiding her points sucks. More so since it wasn't consensual. I mean it's like the sex scene with that lady at her house with a gun to MC's head, not that appealing given the circumstances. Personally I am just ignoring the scene, out of sight out of mind lol. Maybe the dev will retcon it a bit or make it avoidable down the road but I don't want it to ruin one of my fav vn's. Though I get some people being worried considering the thing with Chika last update and Noa this update, doesn't really fit the vanilla tag. Chika's was resolved but we had to wait over a year for that. I am slightly concerned about what will happen next. I'd prefer not to have something really fucked up happen to the girls, and right now we can't be sure about that, as you have mentioned.

SafeForSure1 day ago

Miharu is by far my favorite but after the rape and blackmail and overall bullying Ayase is unfixable and would be silly is she would be fixed. Someone with functional emotions wouldn't have done all the things she pulled. She made everyone's life a living hell for her own amusement and goals so now giving somehow a redemption arc feels cheap and totally undeserving. Same with Noa she is also a unfixable character for me. Honestly I don't care if they both end up dead but apart from that making the mc a rapist feels like he got pulled down to their level so was rather disappointing but apart from that I hope we get a really bad ending for Ayase.

Crazedpupp1 day ago(+1)

She does seem anti social and I understand the blackmail take to a point. I mean she barely knew MC and didn't want her identity or what she does getting out. It wasn't right but I understand her attempt to control the situation. But she did apologize for that pretty early on so for me it was like a let's start over but don't try something like that again. I didn't really want to write off a character for mistake the admitted to in the first chapter. But I also like her bangs and when the MC wins over the "popular girl". Plus the handing holding and hugs are nice.

I don't really see where the bullying is coming from, I mean she gives MC shit but she doesn't humiliate him or anything. Plus she is pretty quick to agree to help his sister with her problem bullying problem.

Not that I am trying to convince you to pursue a love interest, I am just curious. I do think ppl that wrote her off for the blackmail are missing a good romance but we like what we like lol I gotta see more of Noa before I judge, I mean she does think of MC as an enemy, can't expect everyone to start out as childhood friends. I will wait and see how she develops.

ATM I'd prefer no one getting a bad ending, though that might change later.

I'm waiting to see what the dev says about the "rape" scene, he said that nothing with the girls will be forced, so I'm curious what his intention was.

SafeForSure15 hours ago

You don't see blackmailing someone who helped you and raping someone bullying? She's unbelievable unlikable to me everything is about her she only turns around when you blackmail her back and Noa is a murderer and totally insane. I didn't like the Chica drama so just walked away even the rewriting didn't make any sense and wasn't done really well it feels more the developer tried a shortcut in fixing the backlash. There are three girls I love and Miharu is the best by far not interested in the rest apart from the story. I don't care about sex scenes at all so I play pure for the story and like the girls as I would like or dislike them as I would if they were real not if I want the mc to have sex with them. I do hope Miharu stops being so self conscious at some point but she's lovely.

Crazedpupp13 hours ago(+1)

You said "blackmail, bullying, and rape" so I asked what the "bullying" was. Yeah, she blackmailed MC cause she was concerned about her identity getting out, id probably do worse. I mean let's say you were undercover with the yakuza, would you be fine sending someone along with a pat on their back without assurances that your secret is safe? Is it right? nah, but it's understandable. Also, I didn't really talk about sex scenes (chika is better without the sex scene), in fact I mentioned the more affectionate ones, hand holding, hugging , and her wearing mc's shirt lol.

as for chika, I only brought it up in case you hadn't seen it, but its up to the player if they accept it. Personally I am just doing it as a friend atm. She didn't seem to care about MC's sisters drama when she stood up to those bullying her, it would be a dick move to not help her as a friend at least because she's a "prostitute" and has drama lol plus it seems helping her will help the sister (i can't remember her name). Right now Chika is more just a friend MC is trying to help out after she helped his sister... yuka?

In the end you don't have to like who I like, I have just wondered why ppl dislike Ayase because she is my top 2. Hell I can even ignore the the non consensual finger blasting because Noa has tried killing her 3 times lol but hopefully dev makes it avoidable, at least for ppl not on ayase's path, so ppl don't have it forced on them.

p.s. This is all just a long discussion, I'm not trying to convince you of anything, just getting your take and giving you mine. We completely agree on Miharu at least. That and I do prefer the more romantic avns over sex sex sex. And well Ayase is just my type... like kind of enemies turned lovers maybe, or maybe the idea of saving her or 2 ppl saving each other idk but I totally get why ppl might not like her. Something about her path appeals to me though.

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