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From your answers it seems to me like you're not OK with humiliation and degradation fetish content when LGBTQ+ people or women are in the submissive role. This is ironic to me considering your apparent desire for inclusivity. Maybe you're not aware that people enjoy being in those roles (and fantasizing about being in them) in BDSM fetish play?

Also I noticed that you still use a lot of vague phrases like "how it's presented", "how you execute it" without saying what you mean. As I was wondering if there's a reason for that, I read this statement: "Because to me, the fact men are mostly in power excuses pretty much all those elements. Not to mention many of them are transphobic and to be honest, could care less how cis guys are presented, as long as, like I said, the treatment doesn't extend to LGBTQT+ and women."

Wow. Again you seem to think depiction of a person in a humiliation role is something bad that would need to be "excuse[d]".. but then shockingly you say you don't care if that person is a cis man because "many of them are transphobic"?! I truly hope that nobody ever paints you with as broad a brush as you have just painted most men, and that nobody ever uses that prejudice to justify indifference toward your (perceived) suffering or harm.

Thanks for answering my questions but I'm not going to continue this conversation further. I'm really not a fan of this kind of thinking. I think I understand why you avoid stating your actual opinions plainly -- when laid bare they're not so kind.

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I get the impression that they have some sort of subconscious self-hatred going on. After all, they're here, and they've indicated they've played the game in some of their responses.. But they advocate for changing the game to make it 'less mean' toward LGBTQ+ people.

This leads me to suspect that they subconsciously feel ashamed of themselves for having enjoyed this content in the past, and have seen bad actors use content like this to persecute LGBTQ+ people.. And that's led them to conclude that this sort of content is what's causing people to not support LGBTQ+ people's rights.

The problem with that is that they're giving credibility to the source of that hatred. Bigots that are against LGBTQ+ rights won't be okay with letting a 'non-perverted' version of the LGBTQ+ community exist, because to those bigots the very definition of every form of the LGBTQ+ movement is perverted. Trying to tame the LGBTQ+ movement and make it 'less perverted' is not going to appease the bigots, and is only going to weaken the entire LGBTQ+ movement.

I've hopefully at least started to convince them of this (as they've not responded to any of my posts for a few days now, while previously they responded every day), but it could also be they've simply been trolling and doing exactly what I described to them (about bigots posing as LGBTQ+ people and sowing seeds of in-fighting by trying to rally other LGBTQ+ people against the 'more perverted' LGBTQ+ people).. And when they realized they couldn't actually refute the arguments I presented without making that more obvious, decided to quit before they got further behind.

I hope that's not the case, and that it's just that they have some subconscious self-hate and shame that was planted in them by such trolls, and are now realizing what they've been doing and are quitting before they make things worse while they think things over.

Or it could be that they have a good guess about which other communities I'm in that I mentioned vaguely, and that made them uncomfortable with chatting with me. Which is honestly understandable, though a little sad.

It's because you're posting multi-paragraphs to a few couple comments of mine and evidently are seeing where I comment now. That's why I've not been responding to ALL of your response, so chill. I've become quite jaded to this community in general.

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"From your answers it seems to me like you're not OK with humiliation and degradation fetish content when LGBTQ+ people or women are in the submissive role." I wasn't trying to hint at that, not at all. Love is after all choosing to be vulnerable to people, so I couldn't disagree more with that sentiment. So you completely missed my point there.

"Also I noticed that you still use a lot of vague phrases like "how it's presented", "how you execute it" without saying what you mean. " I will literally provide you examples from the game itself, if you want me to get more specific, even though I felt I was pretty dang specific to begin with. 

And yes actually, much like how you didn't know about autogynephilic being used as a derogatory term for transwomen, maybe the fact my rights in multiple countries have been set back by cis guys and it's  being perpetuated by cis guys? Honestly I'm speechless at your statement, if your a cis guy you got almost no right to comment on that in my opinion.  God forbid we're critical of cis men, truly they have it bad. 

AKA, you can't actually address or discuss your viewpoint further. What was the whole point of even asking me than? Sad that your poor male feelings got hurt? Get out of here, disgusting. Now go make a Reddit AMA where you ask if you're the asshole for insinuating that cis guys have it as bad as LGBTQT+.