I have no idea what's going on in this comment thread, but it's becoming increasingly off-topic and I'd like it to stop before we have to put a stop to it, please?
Anyway, force OF ANY KIND isn't really the vibe of CoT.
Apologies, Cadia, it's always good to talk about such things when it's relevant, but I'll respect your wishes for now. Would you like me to explain it a bit better?
But I'd probably respond to the original poster with the second part of your comment, so they get a notification, I was just responding to the original poster.