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Hello! I'm usually a lurker, but I wanted to bring something up.  I'm not sure how to spoiler this though oops, so I just put in a bunch of space...







I know this paid DLC and the game as a whole(?) is still a WIP, but I just wanted to bring some instances I noted so far in my playthrough. On Day 2 at nighttime, despite me toggling my preferences to be top (additionally, my anatomy was also masculine with a penis, if that's relevant), Ren still fingered me while performing oral on me. It threw me off in a not-so-good way, so I just wanted to ask if that was intentional or not, even for those of us wanting (player/PC) to be sole/exclusive tops. 

I hope this doesn't come off as rude or anything, but since the DLC did say I would have the option of either being penetrated OR penetrating him instead, I was a bit disappointed that I ran into this (it's something I've seen other games suddenly spring on me unfortunately). 

Something similar starts to happen on Night 3, with him stroking PC/us but then slipping a finger inside us. However, it soon shifts to him lowering himself onto us, so I could indeed top, which I suppose was a relief but it still left a bit of a bad taste in my mouth. Later in that same scene, however, it mentions how deep he's going and then he reaches down to stroke us, but that shouldn't be possible since I'm inside him?? Pretty soon, he dirty talks and tells us to come inside him tho... But, after he carries us to the bedroom, there's mention of him "cleaning up the sticky mess between [PC's] thighs", though I suppose that could still apply even though I'm the top ig?? The flips back and forth are like whiplash lol...

On Day 4, in the aquarium closet, if we choose to make Teo jealous, before we perform oral on Ren, it implies we had him inside us - even though I never bottomed (or at least was never supposed to happen given my top preference). And when we're teasing him during oral, he says something like "You can even fuck me this time" as if I hadn't topped him during the previous penetrative scenes.

Because of this shift, I presume these parts of each specific scene was bugged for tops? I would understand maybe if i had clicked versatile for preferences, but since I am a top and thus picked that, having to read the opposite was strange. Coincidentally or not, the 1st 2nd 5th and 6th "flips" appeared with "NO CG YET!" written on the background, although the 3rd and 4th(?) did not (they just had blank back backgrounds with no writing). Could that be interfering somehow and/or part of the bug? Though I suppose it says that feature is not implemented yet in the paid version so... idk >o<

On Day 5, there's an explicit warning that the scene while watching the beach episode is written in a way where we can't top. Will this be the case permanently? Because both pressing no and avoiding the choice by instead answering Moth's question earlier still lead to the same part about how we finished the latest AoG ep and watched theory videos, I opted for the latter (answering their question) in case because even if I pressed no, I was worried that the game would still register it as me having bottomed and later dialogue would reflect that.

I would love any clarification on this. Take your time answering and working on this game though. There's no rush :) 

Honestly, I appreciate you including an option/semblance for us to top at all, though, which I have not seen other yandere games really do. ^w^

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Thank you for the feedback! And I don't think it was rude at all, don't worry!! Seeing as I'm the only person working on 14DWY (and the DLC), this means I'm usually the only one who playtests everything as well. Some things will slip past me, so I really appreciate you taking the time to point them out and explain everything!! Otherwise, I'm sure I would've missed them entirely ^^;

When I have time to focus and prioritise the DLC again, I'll see what I can do about all the scenes involving Ren fingering a player who tops, the inconsistencies, and some of the wording/phrasing used!

And since you asked for clarification... Most of the scenes you mentioned were written with full penetration in mind (i.e. getting penetrated by Ren's private parts, as opposed to his fingers or tongue). I didn't want to exclude tops from this — since I know everyone has different preferences — but in hindsight, tops that don't mind getting fingered/stimulated could probably just choose the versatile option instead.

Alongside that, some scenes were written in a way that makes it difficult to turn into a top variation, as they would require me to rewrite everything from scratch — and such exclusivity wouldn't be fair for verse and bottom players. Some examples I can think of are the rainy alleyway scene in Day 2 (Ren isn't the type to use Angel for his own pleasure or shove their hands down his pants that early on in the game) and the couch scene in Day 5 (Angel is sitting in Ren's lap, which makes switching their positions difficult). If a bottom player wanted to be the one to rub their hands against Ren or have him sit in their lap, it wouldn't be fair to make them choose the top option just for that, y'know?? But also... I wouldn't want top players to feel like an afterthought, nor would I want to rewrite the 18+ scenes and have major discrepancies between the free and paid versions, as well as the position variations. I also have to factor in the perspective of tops/verses who use strap-ons vs their actual genitalia (and how differently they can be stimulated), and there's already a lot more going on that I'm worried that if I change one thing, it will become a problem for another.

Soooo yeah!! ^^; There's a whole bunch of stuff I need to factor in and keep track of from this DLC alone, so it's difficult for me to make major changes without having to restructure other things as well. Nevertheless, I truly appreciate you bringing this up and sharing your thoughts! It would've slipped past my notice otherwise ghjsjgj

Also... I know you're aware of this and have acknowledged it (thank you!!), but I do want to gently remind everyone else that the DLC is still a major WIP, as noted on the Itch page. I wouldn't want to mislead anyone, make them believe that the position variants are without fault, or give the impression that the current state of the top variant is final!