I think you may be misunderstanding the wording of the petition. It’s not asking to eliminate age verification, just monitor the process better. Protecting children is important but it’s also important to retain what shreds of privacy we have left. Letting third party verification take data like our id information and biometrics that can be sold off to other companies is a crazy way of doing it. The idea is to have these things regulated and discussed without making huge sweeping bans or privacy violations through fear mongering. Collective Shout doesn’t care about children. You can see it in all the similar fights they’ve had through the years.
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*a direct quote from the petition "including pre-approval of all content before publication, forbidding certain search terms, and monitoring the age and identity verification process for all performers"*
Now if they had stated "including pre-approval of all content before publication, forbidding certain search terms, and monitoring the identity process for all performers".
Then I would agree with you 100%... However the inclusion of the word age is where the sole issue is.
Yeah, the quote says that Mastercard shouldn’t force websites to impose invasive age and identity verification requirements to utilize their websites. That doesn’t mean there shouldn’t be any kind of age verification, as for years having a credit card was the means to do that. By putting in your card, which you must be 18 to own, you are verifying your age. I shouldn’t have to also send my driver’s license as proof to these third party verification services. The onus is on the parents to track what kids use their credit cards for in regards to their safety. I think a key point here is that payment processors should not get to have a say in what we spend our money on. Porn is an easy target because you’ve got to be out of your goddamn mind to give a thumbs up to kids having access to adult content. It’s an easy cause to rally behind. It sets groundwork for whatever they want to target next. If the website itself isn’t taking care to deal with risks to children, it’ll tear itself down. I mean, look at Roblox.
I can buy a prepaid visa gift card... It's treated exactly the same as a credit card that has my legal name on it. Last I checked you don't have to be 18 to get a gift card, also if you have kids there would be nothing to stop them from grabbing your card from your wallet while you are asleep. However if you have to do a live video to verify your identity a child would have to video tape you while you were awake (much harder to pull of when they require you to make a given gesture)
So, let me see if I understand what you're saying... A parent who has a full time job means they're working a minimum of 8 hours a day (during 5 days a week) in the same to be nice they only have one child versus two children or in the case of some families up to six children... They are supposed to somehow monitor those six children all 18 hours a day that they're awake (assuming the kids actually sleep a full 8 hours everyday) and make sure that ALL of the children (like I said between 1 and 6) don't get access to a gift card, your bank or credit card, or even at a friend's house look at and view adult content? I don't know that's you but if you're sleeping even 6 hours every night and you're working 8 hours every day for 5 days a week that's 13/24 hours a day for at least 5 days a week that you are unable to monitor even one child so how are you supposed to do that with up to six? In short it is literally impossible even for a helicopter parent... Let alone a normal parent that might also want to have time to I don't know interact with their spouse... In short it's completely illogical and unreasonable to expect a parent to be able to monitor their child the way you seem to be suggesting they should.
maybe not 18 house but at least once in a while, but you can't even find a moment in those 18 hours to do that, being a parent is not about you and your precious time, it's about the kid, and if you can't grasp that, or handle the responsiblility maybe you shouldn't be a parent
you know what would be even better than checking him? not giving him access to the internet at all until he's 18, Fking Ipad parents
I was referring to a person who said that a parent should be the one to make sure their kid doesn't end up on a site with adult content and pointing out that it is literally impossible for any parent (especially one in single parent situation) to prevent a child from any and all access to adult content wether because humans have to sleep at some time or because there is no way to be by their side every waking moment of their life. You however took it to be me complaining about how hard it is for me to raise a kid (as evidenced by your comments of being a parent is not about you and your precious time or if you cannot crash that or handle the responsibilities maybe you shouldn't be a parent) however at no point did I say "As a parent" so please stop making assumptions, and stick to replying to the actual content of post not your perceived interpretation. HERE IS THE EXACT MESSAGE THAT WAS BEING RESPONDED TO "So what. It's parent's job to make sure their kids don't see sexual content. It's not ppayment processor's job."
*Side note* So a perent needs to what go to the schools, public libraries and to every kids house that their kid interacts with and demand that the teachers, parents and City disable the internet? Because otherwise school, libarys, other kids will almost always allow them access to the internet...lol. Talk about unrealistic expectations....lol