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Hi, Is there gonna be an Android version? Does this work on joyplay? Also, don't get ppl who hard hates on AI content, first of all (this one) is free, and besides that it shows the dedication of the creator.

You can freely choose if want to play it or just avoid it, but man, there's a person behind this, you don't gain anything throwing hate (he's not charging you anything) .

A game is a game and I'll be more than happy to read and enjoy whatever comes with it.

As for the creator, thank you for making this.

EarlOfMaine135 days ago(+3)(-16)

Thank you for your remarks. AI phobia wil become increasingly commonplace as the technology becomes universal. Like many neuroses, those who suffer from it are unbalanced, rude and loud.

The story has not been tested on Android and we were not plannning an Android version.

kazmaru31134 days ago(+16)(-4)

its not ai phobia its the lack of trying as a person -w-

EarlOfMaine126 days ago(+1)(-3)

What an oddly luddite view. You are equally cross when someone uses a bicycle instead of walking? Tools is tools.

kazmaru31124 days ago(+2)(-1)

you didnt use it as a tool, you used it as an end all means. Answer this: is a carpenter, a carpenter cause of their tools or their skill?

EarlOfMaine123 days ago(+1)(-1)

I do not recognise the question as valid. If a table is made by a machine, or an identical table is gnawed into shape be a beaver, are there intrinsic difference in what that table does for its user? Those who care about intangibles would say not: the beaver gnawed piece is "organic" and has "soul". A logical positivist would say, with justification, that that is fluff, that it is all self delusion and that the table it is what it does and that is why a given lump of matter is called a table in the first place. Molecules is molecules, as Daffy Duck would undoubtedly have said.

kazmaru31123 days ago(+1)(-1)

how to cope with out skill is what you showed me. Its 100% a valid question that you are actively choosing not to recognize/acknowledge.

First your analogy fro a table is 100% flawed cause it has no base, and is using fallacy to attempt to prove a wrong point.

Second: a logical person wouldn't question the table if what you said actually made any sense. A logical person would question how a beaver made a table in the first place. (i can tell english writing and comprehensive writing isn't your strong suit so this point is making fun of your logic fyi)

Third and better analogy would be if you said, a machine vs a human, and even in this example the human still wins cause a machine will spit out an exact replica over and over making it less unique and personal, but if a human made it each table, it would have some amount of differences that makes each one unique in its own way cause humans, by hand, cant perfectly recreate something over and over.

Like...you couldn't even write out a proper analogy on your own... bro go to school, take writing classes or something. Now i know you're saying, then how does mine make any sense or is "Valid" We'll you see, sense i have to directly explain it to you, if i gave you carpenter tools....can you do carpentry...no you can't. You said "tools are tools" Yes tools...to be used to better enhance and provide to ones skills. Tell me what skills do you use AI "tools" for in this "game" cause you didnt do the art...thats 100% AI so thats not using any skill set...and in this alone you've shown your own human lack of writing and comprehension skills. so where does that leave the story writing....AI...Like what did you do?

EarlOfMaine123 days ago(+1)(-2)

I do no wish to be rude, but you started he sneers and accusation of something indefined, between between laziness and inert passivity. This is not worth following further. You are unfamiliar with your own culture's philosophical heritage and cannot understand a simple gedankenexperiment,

kazmaru31123 days ago(+2)(-1)

and you couldn't answer simple questions and choose not to acknowledge them cause you know im right. you are choosing to run away cause again im right. you say you do not wish to be rude but ive read your other comments to other ppl calling out your bs ai scam and how you were absolutely dogging on them, but now you choose to not to be rude.
at this point im about 60-70% sure your comments are either bots, or gpt'd after a certain point since you can be bothered with acknowledging your self.
Your own cultures philosophical heritage??? You mean basic understandings of writing??? the thing you personal lack in??? You were the one who used the gedanken experiment wrong in the first place, if you are going to pose a theory make sure it actually make sense and not just put two very uncommon ideas together, thats when you get:

Fallacies: a mistaken belief, especially one based on unsound argument.

Non sequitur fallacy – where the conclusion does not logically follow from the premise.^[8]
Masked-man fallacy (illicit substitution of identicals) – the substitution of identical designators in a true statement can lead to a false one.^[9]

Your explanation follows these fallacies, and your logic towards ai follows mostly the first.

kazmaru31134 days ago(+14)(-4)

because theres a million different avenues other than ai. hire a person ask for art work that artist arent going to use. if a "person" was behind this then they should have gone to ppl for more help.

it doesnt matter if its free...if crack, heroin or any other hard drug was free does that make it better?? you say a game is a game, but a game with out real effort is an affront.

id rather the creator write their own story, draw their own characters, fail, and then tell them you gave it your best but heres some tips to improve and grow. Thats a person. thats a real human being.

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kazmaru31131 days ago(+5)(-3)

actually it wouldnt have costed them really anything if they went around and asked or had patience. like they are an independent person (assuming)...what is the rush, they dont work for anybody so theres no deadline other than the one they set themselves.

all they needed to do was put out on blast on social media, asked around to artist if there are pics that they are not using, pics they have made but dont ever plan to publish, rework, or use...people would give them up. That is a project that has soul and effort put to into it. instead of just making something for....what??

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kazmaru31130 days ago(+4)(-3)

you are talking to an artist....who talks to other artist...whom's art ive asked if i could color, line, or work with if they are not using it. theres literally an artist i follow who post free art from time to time to use, color and edit to however you want as long as you credit them for the original....
Thats a very negative outlook on artist to assume we will always ask for money, when 9/10 artist ask to be credit for work they have worked on and are giving away. Money comes from work on transactions, if theres something we've worked on our free time, why ask for money??

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kazmaru31130 days ago (2 edits) (+3)(-1)

you tell me not to be rude but go off on a condescending tone and try to directly tell me what to do in a not realistic situation and expect results???? Pot calling the kettle black. "10 artist in 24 hours ill be waiting, but its ok if you cant i understand" who the fuck do you think you are my ceo?! no this is why i called you an ass hat. You have no respect for the art community or artist in general.

Ambitious?!? Using cheap, fake, useless garbage ai not just for the art but for the story too?? thats not ambitious, thats called a scam! You are not a gamer, you are not an artist, you are chronically online who thinks they are holier than thou. You want to know ambitious ppl who actively try to improve themselves. artist who know their art isnt great hell even 1st grade lvl art, but still post it cause they are proud of what THEY created, writers who have spent hours writing a story, sending it to friends or others to proof read or to get feedback publishing all their mistakes and plot holes, cause they are proud of what they hand crafted, NOT GENERATED. Devs on games who reached out to others for help with their games and FOUND OTHER PPL WHO SHARE THE PASSION AND WANTED TO WORK WITH SAID DEV free or not cause THE OPTIONS are out there.

"dont shot at us" you arent an us. Ive seen indie devs on this platform with ASS art, mad ASS art, but i follow them cause thats passion. hell one of the devs im following is re-releasing their game CAUSE their art has improved and it hella shows. You are lazy, this person is lazy. If you get offended by this, then it must be true, instead of self reflecting.

You make excuses for slop and garbage like this, then go off like you have all the answers or your answers are the most logical. Get out here dude.

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PossomGish213134 days ago(+9)(-4)

This whole response sounds like ChatGPT made it for you, but you specifically asked it for a more poor punctuation attempt.

PS, I have no, "Phobias" on the subject of AI, but I just prefer if a game Dev tried a bit harder then looking at an image that was just made and saying, "Yup, That's Good, Lets make it into a game"

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