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last version i played was 0.15 or so, tried to play some more in 0.17.2. but didnt finish that one.

every harem game is the same in concept, the player is exposed to emotional or psychological damage, repeatedly, but is incentivized to keep engaging with it in hopes of it paying off later with good scenes and a story. this game is no different.

i had a fun time with the game, outside of some events that happen because they hit too close to home so to speak. that is, until i encountered one specific part of the game, after which i played for a short while more and then stopped playing it because the game's developer demonstrated clearly enough what he thinks of anyone with specific beliefs who recognizes that despite having beliefs of their own, there are times when setting those beliefs aside has more value because something superordinate else is at risk.

fighting the power, so to speak, is what makes an rpg's story compelling, though it depends on what lenghts the developers go to, to establish said power. but this isnt an rpg, this is a harem game, and the “power” can be condensed down to the balding, fat, unkempt man shouting

“Make Sylanar Great Again”

sure, who wouldnt side with their harem of women over some balding fat -ist? problem is, i dont think thats what the developer is doing here. its an attempt at subversion of whoever it is that decides to play this game, an attempt to break the 4th wall. do you have any semblance of nationalism in you? are you proud of the history of those that came before you? their triumphs, downfalls, everything inbetween, and the fact that despite, or thanks to all that, your nation still exists, you are here, and alive?

congratulations! you are exactly the same as that balding fat guy!

a balding and fat counter-protester is used as a strawman to represent anyone who recognizes nuance. the world that this developer constructed is half-fantasy and half-inversion of the world we live in. the caucasians in this game (whites) are a mix of how a muslim and an african would behave toward a female slave. all the while they are portrayed as rampant ists that may or may not shout make america whoops sorry that slipped in there, lemme try again, make sylanar great again.

the player engages in rebuilding a nationalism movement for elves, trying to convince all sides that elves have learned from their past mistakes and that their race should be preserved, that their culture, beliefs and the like are worth preserving. its curious then, that the very similar real-life movement that is about nationalism resurgence, persevering of a race's culture and restoring its own belief in itself, is inverted in this game. from maga to msga.

this is the only time when i will offer you, the developer, what you havent offered me, the anonymous player of your work. a nuanced approach. i would appeal you to rethink the mockery you added to the game which is otherwise fine, but, chances are you really like what you've done there.

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dude.. get out of here with your political brainrot

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dude thinks about politics while gooning lmao

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Harem Hotel speaks about a lot of political issues. Slavery and freedom from it is a big theme after all. Kali's Dad is a mayor, Autumn's dad is a Minister, Lin is a slave, you as the player are an immigrant, and someone else's father is planning to run for the President of Syl'anar. (spoilers though, won't say who, but he's also an immigrant)

Honestly I think it would be quite hard to goon to this game considering how story dense it is. That's one long edge sesh.

Yes, why goon when you can just be titillated whilst enjoying the story? Lol~

I understand that, I just found it funny how US conservatives are always spitting their agenda in every way possible. It's insane how the dude thought this up while (possibly) gooning to a 18+ harem game. The story is great BTW and I've been playing it for like 2 years at this point. I never expected this from an 18+ game, but props to you, Runey, no other game on this platform even comes close.


And what's wrong with long edging sessions? Some people are into it. 😏

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Wait, the last time you played HH was over a year or two ago and you're only commenting now?

Anyway, I will only address two points for now until I know you are willing to have a discussion about intentions and what you misunderstood. If you believe you are ultimately and objectively correct, well, you've already stated your perspective. That's all that needs to be said.

But since you commented this, I'm assuming you're open to a discussion.

1. You called someone whose only character is to support slavery, be a bigot, and someone for everyone to laugh at, as being the only person who recognizes nuance. You're basically watching Herbet from Family Guy and saying "Well he's the only person with a nuanced perspective on pedophilia."  No, these are bad people with bad beliefs used for comic relief. If you truly relate to the ideals of the characters I've written to be horrible people, you may need to do some reflection. Just my opinion though.

The "Caucasians" (specifically the colonists, who were not all white by the way) of this game took direct inspiration from the colonists of america, australia, and south africa. Colonists in HH are acting like colonists in the real world. They are not "Acting like muslims or africans"


2. The protagonists are not supporting a nationalist party of elves. The nationalist movement of elves would be the High Elves, who hold the same beliefs of these colonists, but for elves. Elvish superiority over human superiority. The thing is, they're also your enemy. They're also the bad guys. They would enslave humans if they could. Nia even started with some idea that humans are lesser beings because of what they did to her, but after getting to know you, she adopts Lin's ideals of equality and equity over ultra-nationalism. Lin doesn't even believe borders should exist. So how you got to the conclusion that the player and the harem are supporting an elvish nationalist movement really boggles my mind. There are no "past mistakes of the elves." They didn't do much except defend themselves from invaders (colonists). But look, if you're just a patriot, and you enjoy your community and its people, that's awesome! That's not nationalism though.

Elves are also not a race of humanity. You can think of them sort of as we see homo-erectus or neanderthals. Elves would be homo-sylius. A separate but equal genome of the homo genus with enough differences to be considered separate species. Humans (not just "caucasians") are doing the same to elves as humans did to neanderthals. Kill, rape, merge. (This isn't shown in game, but is implied to have happened)

I am not breaking the 4th wall by criticizing ultra-nationalism, that's not what that means, by definition. You've essentially stated that because Bob's Burgers has burgers in it, it broke the 4th wall. Both things can exist in fiction and reality. The purpose of the criticism of ultra-nationalism is to make you think and possibly offer you a different perspective.

World history and geopolitics are massive interests of mine and it shows in game. The idea of a "nation" only took prominent hold in our world because of Germany in WW1 (A precursor being Napleon's French Empire.) Nationalism is a very new ideology and one I critique a lot, but specifically ultra-nationalism. In short they promoted the idea that specific people belong to their nation over the idea of a community of people working together, and that the people who do not belong to the nation should leave so that there are more opportunities for the nation's people. In Harem Hotel, this means working elves until they're dead and extinct, even though it was their land to begin with.

(I'm leaving a lot of nuance out in these comments for the sake of simplicity and time)


But no, I will not apologize for making fun of bigots and anyone who supports slavery. I will continue to mock and laugh at fascists because its the least they deserve. 

I even run a Cornwall parody twitter account, which mocks Trump. It's the funniest shit ever.


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GET HIS ASS, RUNEY, GET HIS ASS XD

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But ultimately your protag does support the Nationalist party of elves in way. By giving it an advantage by weakening humanity's biggest advantage a unified front/opposition. Not to mention the protag gets screwed when you get down to what his faction actually wants. They want the elves to have everything and for the human immigrants/colonizers to be gone. If this happens your protag also is affected. He would loose the Hotel  as well as his spot on said island when things are said and done. Something your side of the aisle never seems to think about. The whole slavery thing is bad and I disagree with it that would be my republican side coming out(Also fun fact it was republicans who ended slavery dems wanted to keep it).However pulling a socialist move and saying you own nothing were going to give it to the elves solves nothing. Your protags faction seems to be leaning the socialist route of having the goverment come in and solve the problem(This never works no one is happy and the goverment is the only one who wins)  My response to the whole thing would have been a funny nod to my favorite Warhammer faction but not feeling it now.  Also no nekos,no dog or wolf girls ultimately not my thing also why on earth would anyone discuss politics on this site? We go to x or somewhere else for that I go here to escape that shit. Thanks for bringing the politics  nonsense into something that was an escape typical fucking leftist.

Many words, my head hurts reading them all...

Dude why the long rant seriously your giving us conservatives a bad name. Leave the ranting to the libs we point and laugh we don't go on rants like this brother. Besides games like this are for gooning and occasionally if its well done we take a trip on the feels train. When the developer tries to take us down the politics route we do not engage. Think like an honorable chatter brother  we do not go into none political areas and add politics leave that toi the crying and clout chasing libs.