seperate reply but i just wanted to point it out, i find it odd how a lot of hentai fans are “radicalised” against the left because of some feminist scare in the 2010s when the right is where the christian conservatives are who are much more against porn and sexuality and anything in between than the left. like sure, you could argue games making women “ugly” is a woke thing, cause we’ve had impossibly beautiful women for decades already (and it really doesnt matter to begin with like the old games with hot babes still exist), but thats only cause the ceos are marketing to that demographic. the people trying to retroactively ban sex and the people who even have the power to do so in the first place is christians, and this whole censorship thing going on right now is their doing, because we’ve been too busy fighting each other over anime boobs to realise that we’re BOTH screwed.
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Lol I am a Christian Conservative. I just acknowledge that every human being has a vice and mine happens to be porn. I'm not of the opinion that porn is a good thing, but I also don't agree with censorship because a battle against vices means nothing if it's forced upon others, and it doesn't matter to me who's doing it or for what reason.
What I find incredible is how you deflected on the issue of "attacks on beautiful women in videogames" which was absolutely being done by the left. And whenever someone brought up how they don't like the uglification of characters, they were called gooners and porn addicts by people on the left. So this argument that only Christian conservatives really care about sexuality is completely absurd, because the left has been promoting this abolishment of sexuality in media for a decade now over some stupid premise that it's negatively affecting women or trans people for some reason. Because apparently as much as "body type A/B doesn't matter, why do you care" they get awfully upset when you bring up that you wish it was man or woman/male or female. If it really didn't matter, why would they care. The answer is because it's about power and they want control over the medium. It's as simple as that.
we're getting into super-generalisation territory here so lets stay nuanced, this is my interpretation here:
the left brought up over-sexualisation, so corps marketed to them. uglification is a psy-op to divide us and make the right believe the left wants to erase attractive women completely, whereas the left im apart of is all about self expression and inclusivity, which STILL INCLUDES conventionally attractive people. and the fact "uglification" is a word is the reason why people call them porn addicts, cause it creates the impression that they cant handle when someone isnt a total smoke show. i never said it was only christian conservatives either, i believe its also radfems and puritans, whatever side they're on. its an abolishment of over-sexualisation, which does affect women when it promotes unrealistic and harmful beauty standards. and lastly, i for one believe that its about inclusivity and universality, body type A/B is objective with no room for interpretation. If i was the leader of the hypothetical woke hivemind, it would be for the medium to include more diversity; keeping BOTH, not erasing one for the other. the corps that make these decisions are the ones picking one or the other because it fuels the culture war and divides us further instead of reaching a rational compromise.
neither the left nor the right are the ones making the games, they're just the markets the corps try to profit from.
and one last anti-generalisation statement here: ive seen plenty of people on the left who are fine with hot people existing, and ive seen you who isnt against porn either, so stop trying to make this a left and right issue. folks like you and me from both sides who are fine with porn arent the ones in control, clearly.
i could go futher into a conspiracy theory if you want, but i'll end it here. we're arguing about the wrong things at this point and unfortunately its a spectrum so no one label is all encompassing.