Ok. So if the threat is that “the billhooks are Unreasonable (narrative T4) in their demands - not only is it an absurd quantity of coin but more” and the player faces that with say Sway they’ve talked their way around it on a 6. So if you wanted to structure a more demanding challenge to something like the players wanting the Billhooks to run interference for a smuggling operation or something; you might go “ok, with your going in position they won’t back your play - at best they’ll just let you way as you move through their territory (effect) and they’ll be Unreasonable about the bribe they require for even that (threat).”