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Hey there, thank for the support!
Actually, I did think of doing something like that ( Not like Earthbound, but more like a regular RPG combat ), but I really would like to use most (if not all) existing assets. After seeing how many weapons, weapon animations and all different enemy sprites (moving toward 8 directions, all attack animations and such), hiding the player and/or having a static image for a enemy representation feels bad.

About Half year ago I think I made a simple prototype with a final fantasy 6 (minus the action bar) and I found it to be too boring.

With Hoopz being the only "party member", I had to come up with something to make it "fun".

Here is a somewhat old demo for what I came up.

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Wow :), this exceeds what I had in mind by a lot. The demo looks amazing, and it looks really fun to play, which is the difficult part!

You are very talented, and I agree entirely with your idea of using as much Barkley 2 assets as possible. They look and sound good.


Questions, have you thought about any of the following? 

- If Hoopz chooses to move, does it cost him Action points or anything similar? Does moving limit how much he can fire?

- Also, does Hoopz get the chance to evade enemy fire / strikes in any way? 

- Have you thought about "friendly" or "neutral" NPCs participating in battle? 

Nothing stops you from having a "party" of people that join you throughout the adventure. Maybe they give passive benefits/skills for use? Or maybe you can deploy them to fight alongside you once a battle starts?

If a fight starts, do you battle exactly where it started (for example: a cramped corner, or an alleyway), or are you transported to a bigger fictional area to do the battle? The demo you showed seems like a good size for fighting.

(Chrono Trigger just refocused the camera on the party once a fight began, since the party didn't have to move from their spot.)


Thank you for showing me your Demo concept! It's really nice to see cool game development like this.

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- If Hoopz chooses to move, does it cost him Action points or anything similar? Does moving limit how much he can fire?

Both 'yes' and 'don´t know yet' actually. Initially, that was the plan.
The combat prototype worked like this: Both weapons and the players have 0 to 100 "action points". Certain actions consume some amount of points (ex.: moving costs 30 points, normal attack costs 60 points, a weapon skill costs 100 points, etc).

On the prototype that worked pretty nice, but when porting that code to B2, I changed my mind because of the ammo costs. Managing both the amount of ammo and action points felt weird... Would a "triple shot" skill cost 90 action points and 12 bullets? It seemed too complex using the current system / gameplay loop.

Having said that, Hoopz still have its own action points that he can use to move, use items (???) and defend. Hoopz action point would affect the speed that the weapons action point would increase (ex.: Hoopz AP is at 50, so the weapon AP would increase at 0.5x speed).

- Also, does Hoopz get the chance to evade enemy fire / strikes in any way?

Yup. From the start, I was think that would be pretty cool for the player to wait an enemy attack, dodge the attack and shoot the enemy at a close range, all using menus to do it. The action points and "Active" battle system was made to do just that.

- Have you thought about "friendly" or "neutral" NPCs participating in battle?

I haven't thought of that, but I think that the current battle system can support that.

- Nothing stops you from having a "party" of people that join you throughout the adventure. Maybe they give passive benefits/skills for use? Or maybe you can deploy them to fight alongside you once a battle starts?

The main issue of having a party is the writing and sprite work necessary to make good characters. Those aren't my strong suits lol.
Between having no party members and having some that say nothing interesting and has bad graphic/sprites, I prefer having no party members. Manly, that why I´m trying so much to use only original assets.

- If a fight starts, do you battle exactly where it started (for example: a cramped corner, or an alleyway), or are you transported to a bigger fictional area to do the battle? The demo you showed seems like a good size for fighting.

You always stays in the same map, but Hoopz and the enemies can move to a specific place before the fight. In the Demo, for example, the enemies would move to the '0' and '1' spot, while Hoopz  moves to the '2' spot.


With this, we have some control on how battles would look at the start.

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Very cool, and thanks for replying in detail to my questions.

And yes, I agree with your point about the party members.

I also wanted to mention:

- There's this Kickstarter post, which has a summary of the game's areas, progression, and quests that were planned. You probably know about it already, but I include the link just in case it can help you when designing:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/talesofgames/barkley-2-an-rpg-sequel-to-bar...


- Also, someone in TCRF.net has been making a wiki of assets that are not included in the final Barkley 2 version.
Songs and Music in particular!

https://tcrf.net/User:Missile/Prerelease:Barkley_2


- And, the B Ball Tactics Demo is here - I think most people haven't seen it: https://talesofgames.itch.io/basket-ball-tactics

It includes Design Documents! such as work notes and design ideas for Spells/Zaubers, which are not implemented. Maybe they can be of use as reference/inspiration?


Best Regards,

Wow, thanks a lot!

Actually, I really didn't do any sort of research while working on this project. Its actually the first time that I´ve opened the game´s Kickstarter page.
That thing about Al Akibahara is pretty interesting. A while ago I found some scrap of data related to that map and I was able to convert it to Godot. Its not much nor impressive, but its fun to find these things.
I remember looking around TCRF for some info, but I guess I didn't see that. "powerbadboy" is one of my favorite tracks so far, finding an early chiptune version of it is pretty nice.

That BB Tactics game is something I really overlooked, I will take a look at it.

You're welcome! Glad to help if I can.
One last thing I thought of,

There's these 2 videos, where a youtuber plays through the Demo (and beyond! into the Swamps and Brain City) and gives some explanations as to the quests and NPCs. Very useful.

Link 1 and Link 2

(Just in case you want to play/see the content beyond the Demo, the TCRF page says you can do it by having Game Maker 1.4.9999 run the Barkley 2 project files, and adding a debug object needs to the title screen room of the game before compiling.)