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Let me preface with this: I'm unsure whether you are deciding your preferences are the vast majority's preferences or if there is an announced consensus in a community that I'm missing. Just to show what I know, I can show you the poll that I ran for my community to determine what the NTRish toggle should contain.

The vast majority seems to be okay with groping. However, I do understand your frustration, people have been making comments agreeing with yours in DMs and in the discord community months before v0.6 ever came out. But the problem I'm faced with is that there is no single solution that will make every one happy. I just went with the one that made the most people happy.

One question I have for you: If the worst of the grope scenes are over would you consider this game playable? Or would you be only interested if another toggle was added for grope scenes?
Alternatively, I would be more willing to add a particular grope scene to the toggle list if you'd rather have that one hidden. (The pool scene usually gets the most flak.)

Also, if you'd like to discuss anything further feel free to DM me.

BTW to anyone reading this: you're free to vote on this poll, it is still up and I check it to see the community's opinion on the toggle. (It's brought up sometimes during discussion and new votes come in.)

Leone1211196 days ago(+6)(-7)

A couple of things. For starters, I never said that the majority of everyone. I said the majority of those who disagree vehemently with NTR themes (which I am doubtful all but the most vocal of whom are in your discord). That leads into my second point that your poll is likely skewed by an oversaturation of those who are perfectly fine with NTR (or are playing the game for that specific reason), whom I would posit are more willing to join the discord. I could be wrong, but that would be my expectation at least. As for the scenes (and yes the pool scene is what triggered this series of posts), all I would like to see is an option as follows: Salvor approaches. Salvor flirts. If you've completed the first date with her, she's agrees with the Operator when the "No" option is selected, and turns the other Salvor away. Other Salvor leaves. The End... I realize this is a selfish request, but it is what is keeping me from recommending this game or even progressing further. I wouldn't expect a simple "No" to toggle the scene would be too difficult, but then again I'm not a dev. So, just take this as the two cents of someone who feels a deep disdain toward anything even remotely close to NTR. I appreciate the reply.

Shadows Stalker194 days ago(+3)(-4)

Delusria. You already know what i think of this, i hope.

To anyone else here, so we can stop circling the drain all the time:

If some people are getting offended by the fact it is Pseudo-NTR-like, then they need to leave and find something else to do. It clearly shows the individual is incapable of being mentally and psychologically, average at worst or at best, competent. Harming their shallow or rather non-existant feelings and emotions, just to validate their meaningless lives over something as harmless, that a Virtual Character not in a romantic relationship, with the Dispatch, "Building Rep" with other Salvors, and clearly, that Salvette, is a naughty horny slut, if not a nymphomaniac to some degree. It is pretty obvious Salvette is a very, VERY horny lady, with hell of an appetite, whether food or sex.

I could understand some degree of frustration. Should the game have actual NTR content, and it could not be avoided at all. But this is not the case, and should immediately be ignored if any conversation picks up again regarding this.

Mind you. The act of NTR, or rather Cheating. Is that she cheats on you, willingly and intentionally. As the act is that she knows she does it and it does not need to necessarily be with a more romantic partner, but perhaps lust and need for release. Something a lot of people tend to be confused about. The Bull or/and the Cheater does not have to fuck each other with romance in mind, or kiss each other, it could just be pure lust or even procreation. If the act is not based on her own will and intention, it is just rape. Whether taken advantage of or forced.

Additionally. You have a fucking button to block NTR Content. BEING GROPED does not constitute NTR. She is being touched, in a lewd way. There is no active cheating. Would it be cheating, if i poked your wife's tits while making a silly joke about her tits? We can take this out of context as far as possible, but no matter how you slice it, it cannot and will not be NTR. She is not being penetrated, she is not having intercourse, she is just being groped by a few pervs and no further than that, while NTR Off Button is on. Just be happy you got Le Block A NTR Button.

Myself for one would not mind actual NTR content in this game. As i believe you would make a well done Not-In-Dispatch's Face NTR content. As in Hidden NTR or Oblivious Dispatch. But that i have stated before. No need to repeat myself any further.

Anyways. I would pick 1.

Rant over. Please stop sperging on about this conversation regarding how intolerant you are of NTR, even though some games does not even have it properly or just as a consequence of your retarded choices. No more of this in future. If someone tries to repeat this, please refer to this reply of mine, and use it to remind people to stop circling the drain any further. Thank you very much.

Take care!

Leone1211194 days ago(+1)(-8)

The interjection of unnecessary and unwarranted vitriol in an otherwise civil discussion does nothing but detract from it. If you have nothing constructive to add, then don't. We all have our preferences, and I am simply voicing mine. Your point about this being a game is valid, however, and that has been the point of this thread. A game can be whatever you want it to be, and I am providing a perspective that would allow for the game to reach an even wider audience.

SKXw174 days ago(+1)

Saying that groping isn't NTR is crazy tho ... Don't be hypocritical when you made good point apart that one. And stop picking specific exemple to "prove" your point rofl.

Also kinda ironic how you ended your message tho... kinda ruin your argument... But whatever.

By the way how adding a toggle would ruin the game ? Literrally everyone would be happy that way rofl.

Tbh the real problem is more this tho :

First The fact that actions lead to unclear consequences with no ability to "fix" them while it's happening/afterward.
Second That maybe some people in all fair fairness would like to romance and date the npc's but the game doesn't allow it properly.

Kingofrings161 days ago (5 edits)

Someone groping a girl you're dating/interested isn't NTR is a wild ass take. But based on how unreasonably angry you got, this just sounds like a typical ntr fan getting mad other people don't have their fetish then an actual argument.

Someone being raped is still NTR, you can just check the various tagged sites, about this and they're all labeling that sort of thing as NTR. You're actually gaslighting people to claim otherwise. You're actually trying to claim that someone being groped against their will isn't something a husband or someone interested in that person wouldn't lose their shit about and trying to say oh its the same thing as just me poking a woman in the tits. Groping is explicitly a sexual action. You're so disingenuous its painful.

My favorite part of people like you, is that I bet if someone requested optional retaliation against these characters who can cuck you, you would be against this even though its optional. Because you're likely a complete hypocrite. Massive ego, massive victim complex, many such cases. In these sort of games I personally prefer to be able to play with the NTR turned on and just pick the options that let me AVOID it. If the groping scene had an option to attack the person after they did it and beat the shit out of them, then thats also acceptable. Not that I've seen this scene yet because I'm trying to figure out if this game is worth playing or not.

Also I just looked Kazaim up, NTR is his core fetish. So basically everything I suspected is entirely confirmed. NTR is his thing. So he's going to attack anyone who complains about it even if their complaint is as mild as the person in this thread who just doesn't want to see it. Not even remotely surprised.

Shadows Stalker161 days ago(-1)

No. Pregnancy is my thing, you git. And Harem.

My reasoning is cause everytime, people like you, and others. Keep going after NTR/Cheating Content for some reason. Trying to justify your weird fucking crusades. I got tired of the bullying and the crusades. So i decided to make people like you, my enemies.

If your complaint was mild. I would of said nothing. But it is everytime single time. Every Thread, every Game, every place. You just want your Vanilla content forced in literally everywhere, ignoring whether or not the Creator/Devs want that or not, and when someone suggest NTR Content, or some form more or less of it, you freak out and make it the world's issue. So someone has got to say something. So i decided to do so. Despite that it is not my thing, not my kink.

Technically speaking. It should not be my place to say anything of a certain Genre that is not my thing. But as i stated. People these days are so fucking cowardly to punch back at people like you and others.

So before you run your mouth. Perhaps look yourself in the mirror and watch your choice of words, you absolute fucking clown. Not even sure why you are going after me, but you did so, so now you're on my "Loser Creep" list. Congratulations, it has been a long ass while someone got on there. Says a lot how much of a psycho you are. Impressive.

That is all i wanted to say. Now. Fuck off, and find some hole to hide in, you weirdo psycho creep.

Kingofrings161 days ago (1 edit)

The complaint was mild lmao. He literally asked to be able to avoid a scene, not that it get removed.

>Forced content

Brother this game doesn't even say what its content is about and people are just asking for content not the removal of content. So you've decided to just attack random people who aren't even doing the things you're mad about for no reason, totally has nothing to do with the fact you're just constantly in NTR fetish threads on various sites though. Lmao. You acted like a complete asshole first and as I said above you have a massive victum complex to the point you attack people even over minor things. Truly way to prove my point. Because that is all you're doing.

Realwitchu192 days ago (2 edits) (+6)

Obviously most people don't play porn games to be the dude who never gets laid and watches the relevant female get railed. I personally don't think the Delusria is intentionally trying to make the game NTR, just trying to eat your cake and have it too. Because I imagine most people who see the cute girl also want to have sex with her.

This game would honestly benefit from some sorta slut meter or metric. Just have that value be what procs variations on h-scene and encounter dialogue (saves need for making variations on artwork). Maybe throw in some anti H items to protect the Salvor. That way both sides get what they want.

Don't want her to get violated? Great, invest in that. And she'll reciprocate by being more romantic and fixated on you. Whereas elsewise she'll be slutty.

NTR cucks get what they want. NTR crybabies get what they want. All while keeping it in the gameplay as opposed to a "if I didn't see it, it didn't happen" toggle.

SKXw174 days ago

Great idea ! And decent way to make it organic in the game ! (tho would need balancing or not depending how it's done like maybe this kind of "sex or love or relationship" gear could have a separated "weight" "encumberement" stat from the "working tools and gears" so that one doesnt ruin the other butif you go ovr the limit it still affect the character)

Tbh i was hoping too to have the freedom of choice like to romance the npcs or to watch them or whatever ! But properly so exemple if you choose to romance you can protect her from others and convince her to not cheat or something and then same for the opposite too.
(and to truly take care of your "employees" etc ... also i wonder if we can romance tish or tame her ?)

And i agree with your first statement real life sucks so why would you replicate it in a game ?
(hard time to find a partners or being forced to watch others etc ...)

Of course ntr lovers wouldn't care but that wasn't my point !

Plus tbh even if it's more work i always advocate for more content and freedom !

So that everyone can be happy and also everyone could quench their curiosity too by testing the other ways if they wanted to. But also make the game more "alive".

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