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Im not paying 2 times because the creator decided that an update is now a remake and the "original" game was already finished. I think that's not how remakes work, if you decide to continue your "finished" game i think you should've just updated it, this move is very arrogant from the creator. A "That's not my neighbor 2" would've been less obvious than this tbh.

After some research, there are still some things wrong. I guess there will be a reason of why you cannot keep updating the game here, so i'll skip that, but still the problem that you still have the excuse of not asking us for more money for updating it. I think that never happened with other game, when they feel like we got a lot of things, you just put it more expensive for new ppl or maybe like I said you can call it a 2nd part, idk. I guess also not being able to continue the game and starting it all over again disapointed some others ._.

Other thing that you shouldn't do again is doing promises that you are not sure you can really make, like the refunds.  And I don't want a refund lol, I payed for it because I wanted to play it and enjoy it. Just keep it!

Well since idk you so much i guess i'll believe you and think you're actually a good person and buy it again when i have the opportunity :P but don't discontinue it again and release it later on any other platform lol

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Yeah pretty much. What makes no sense to me is claiming he would give a free steam key but can't. If that was the case. Why not just update the itch.io version. It's contradictory. Makes no sense other than he wants people to buy it twice. There isn't really any reason he can't just update it here. You just upload the game files to be able to be downloaded. The only "valid" reason is he thinks people will spread the game around for free? But they could do that with the original version aswell. 

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Dawg, are you just trying to ignore the situation that it was clearly accidental because Nacho didn't do research before he promised the Steam key and refund? He KNOWS his mistakes and he apologized, but i feel like, i saw you keep blaming him because he can't put the Steam version on here as well. Here are the reasons that will make it clear EVEN if you're still not gonna accept his mistakes.

1. The remake was specifically made for Steam. It was his decision. Both Itch.io and Steam have different systems. Porting it back to Itch.io isn't as simple as dragging and dropping files, it requires a LOT of process, adjustments, coding, testing, and extra work to make it function properly.

2. The remake isn't just an update. People misunderstood this and keep acting like the remake is just a patch to the itch.io version when in reality, it is a separate build and the UI even looks different. If it were just an update, Nacho WOULD'VE done that in here from the start. He clearly wanted to EXPAND the game since he wants to try something new and adapt his game to another new platform.

3. The free Steam key situation wasn't really his fault. This is the problem that most people mentioned. I know it's his mistake, but this wasn't a deliberate decision to "force people to buy it again", it was a mistake caused by misunderstanding Steam's policies but people just keep blaming him for that way too much.

4. People spreading the game for free is the issue that is MOST concerning. Nacho already mentioned that people have STOLEN his game and upload it elsewhere. If he put the remake on Itch.io as well, it would make it EASIER for people to grab the files and distribute them illegally while Steam have way stronger protection. Most people fail to realize that this is the actual crime. Nacho actually didn't mind it at first, but you people think he's the one who needs to be blamed so much here is just NOT okay and i don't really get the logic.

I hope you actually read this but if you don't, then i just assume that you will never understand the real situation that is going on right now. Most of my friends who are "real" TNMN fans in another social medias are with me, so i honestly don't care if i'm gonna receive downvotes and hates here, i tried to remind people and defend Nachosama because WE didn't expect people here are literally so messed up and no wonder if Nacho decide to stop developing TNMN or making other games, some of you can't even give him a break when this is literally his mistakes for the first time, some of you just pushed him WAY. TOO. MUCH. Congrats for destroying an indie dev's passion and TNMN development, i'm so disappointed with you people! 👏👏👏

did you read what I said? If he cannot give a free steam key why not just update the itch.io version. It has the same effect. You wrote so much yet ignored what I wrote???? 

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Dang bro, can you seriously not handle reading comprehesion? How many times do i have to tell you that IT'S HIS DECISION TO EXPAND HIS OWN GAME TO STEAM??? You're literally the one who IGNORED my whole points, especially the 3rd and 4th one, ignoring the fact that IT WAS AN ACCIDENT AND HE APOLOGIZED. He also moved the game to Steam clearly because Itch.io doesn't have stronger security like Steam does since people have STOLEN his game for multiple times. Imagine if you make a game ENTIRELY by yourself then people started stealing it and making a profit off of it, would you accept that??? No you wouldn't, you know it's an absolute crime and disrespectful to developers, devs need to protect their game from piracy, but some people unfortunately FAIL to realize it and ignore this problem. 

And also, that's the only argument you've got? No wonder i saw you're one of the people trying so hard to bring Nachosama down with weak excuses. Keep denying the facts all you want, but at this point, you're just embarrassing yourself. I'm not gonna stop sending bomb of texts on you until you fully understand the whole of my points.

He's just rage baiting at this point brother. You said clear as day why he can't just drag and drop it. He looked at that wall of text and said "I aint reading all that" and assumed you didn't talk about it.

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Ikr man, and tbh, this dude is not worth arguing with anymore, but i'd love to see how far this dude can go despite all of their arguments are already collapsing, haha! 

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You seem upset. My point still stands though? Regardless to how invested you want to be. The developer made it out he REALLY wanted to give away the steam keys for free. If he claimed that the steam version from the start was enough of an improvement that it warrants a re-purchase than that's fine. 

If he did want to give it out for free but couldn't due to steam issues. Then nothing was stopping him from simply updating the itch.io version tot he latest version. I'm not quite sure where you're failing to realize the contradiction the developer is having with his statements.

I'll repeat once again for you. He claimed he wants to give for free. He continued to remove any future updates for the itch.io version and not give it for free on itch.io. You can't claim you want to give it for free and than...not give it for free. Yes he can't do it on steam but he can do it on itch.io.