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A jam submission

Frog Oracle - DemoView game page

This is my entry for the Narrative Driven Game Jam #7.
Submitted by Kathryn Lindsey — 1 day, 4 hours before the deadline
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Results

CriteriaRankScore*Raw Score
Audio#111.5182.200
Graphics#131.9322.800
Theme#142.0703.000
Story#141.5182.200
Enjoyment#141.5182.200
Concept#141.6562.400
Overall#141.7022.467

Ranked from 5 ratings. Score is adjusted from raw score by the median number of ratings per game in the jam.

Did you use any optional theme? If so which one?

Self-conscious narrator

Lost in da woods

What game engine did you use?
RPG Maker MZ

Discord username (optional)
Lemonade Sherbet#8314

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(+1)

Idk if i am missing something but i can't figure out how to get past the first riddle. Can someone help?

Developer

Happy to help. You need to click on the green orb and the yellow orb. Thank you for playing!

(+1)

Thanks for the tip! Here is my review:

  • Thinks I liked:
    • The art and worlds look great.
    • I love the intro music. 
    • I enjoyed the worldbuilding including the reasons for the gate being closed and the fact that during winter all the frogs are in hibernation.
    • The dialogue was well written
  • Things that could be improved:
    • It was not clear to me that you had to approach the doors after solving the riddle. I imagined that after lighting the correct orbs the game would inform me in some way like "You did it, now lets return to the gate!". 
    • This game had some great music in the beginning. It could definitely benefit from some music during the game.
    • Its a little weird that you are following Tilly but your character is not in the game. People act like they see you but you never see yourself. At that point why not make Tilly the main character and instead of talking to you you can just read his thoughts?
    • I would have liked to see more interactive gameplay elements. This demo displays walking around and interacting with orbs but not much else. The base is there but it needs to be expanded upon.
Submitted(+1)

I think its a nice start for a game and there are many things that can be built on.

Feedback:

Tilly and us

  • The main char is some kind of delivery person and at the end we get to know that we are visibly there in this world with Tilly when the old frog askes about us. Tilly knows some things about the village and was there before, she also likes it there and knows why the doors will be shut etc.

For me it would have been nice to be involved into the world from the beginning. By calling me Player, Tilly made it clear to me, that she knows that I am a player in a game with her. I was somehow surprised as the older frog asked about me because that felt a bit contradictory to this first impression. She tells the frog that I am the new one helping her with the deliveries. So what am I now? Am I the player, that plays her or am I an assistant, that resides inside of the game world? You could solve that in many ways. One way would be to tell the old frog, that I am her Player that guides her through the land and helps her with everything. This would have been more consistent and the fact, that the frog wouldn't have been surprised would have been an interesting experience like: Oh, okay. It's absolutely normal here that people are controlled by players. Wow. What a world. Another way would have been to add the player as a separate character that needs to follow Tilly. That way, we would really be her assistant. This also gives the opportunity to let tilly rest somewhere and give us the task to solve the door puzzle since she might already know the answer. That's also a small contradiction: If she was there before, shouldn't she know the answer to the puzzle? And if not - why is that? Do they change the combination frequently? If so, tell this to the player. It sells the whole thing better when Tilly would say something in that direction.

The World:

  • It is clearly winter, someone has built a lot of snowmen (but also lanterns into the woods?). In this world there are frogs that hibernate and need resources, that we can deliver to them. The frogs live in a village that is secured behind doors. The frogs of the village think that predators cannot solve their puzzle. Also: There is a company in this world that delivers goods and we are part of it.

First of all: That is a good base to tell a story on. Then: The world can use more small hints and lore everywhere. Let the player interact with the snowmen, the graves in the village, the hole in the ground before the village etc. Use all of this to tell little stories that make the world more believable. Have these frogs built the snowmen? Probably not since they are hibernating so who did it? What are these glowing orbs and how does Tilly activate them? Who built them? How do they work? Is it magic? Or ist it physics? Plant small pieces of information everywhere to make the world richer.

Another thing: The green orb. South of it there are no trees but in a scene before that you have shown the player, that he can leave the map by walking to the edge of the map where there are no trees. At this green orb, and on other points on the maps, this rule is broken. Stay consistent there with the game mechanics. Plant more trees there to prevent the map to be open at those spots. Also give the player something valuable at any spot. Like the spot south west of the gate where you can go into the woods but there is nothing more than the sprites of a tree trunk that is not interactable. Or the chest and barrel before the gates. Make them somehow interactable or remove them since they make the player curious and look like one could interact with it.

Finally the menu suggests, that there are Items and all the full power JRPG waiting in the game so it is a bit disappointing in the end when there is none of this in the game. The menu was not necessary IMHO because the game is a short game - what is absolutely okay. But as such it does not need a save or load system or character stats. (I know this all was probably part of the whole asset. I'm sure one can deactivate parts of it).

So, all in all: The game has a lot of potential. If it should be a JRPG style game one could add some predators in the woods to fight or use the item system to let the player pickup some items, that are needed to solve the puzzle. Also one or two more NPCs and a bit more interaction with the world would have been nice.

But: You can play the game, you have a clear task, you have to solve a puzzle, you have dialogues and you can finish the game. That is more than others are able to make for game jams. Especially if they work on it part time while being a student at university. So please take all of the above as my personal tips for you and I would love to see you working more on this game and building some more features into it.


Keep up the good work!

Developer

Thank you for playing my game and for all the feedback! This gives me so many ideas and ways to improve in the future, both with this game, past projects and future ones. Again, thank you for playing and I hope you enjoyed it!

Submitted(+1)

I think its a nice start for a game and there are many things that can be built on.

Feedback:

Tilly and us

  • The main char is some kind of delivery person and at the end we get to know that we are visibly there in this world with Tilly when the old frog askes about us. Tilly knows some things about the village and was there before, she also likes it there and knows why the doors will be shut etc.

For me it would have been nice to be involved into the world from the beginning. By calling me Player, Tilly made it clear to me, that she knows that I am a player in a game with her. I was somehow surprised as the older frog asked about me because that felt a bit contradictory to this first impression. She tells the frog that I am the new one helping her with the deliveries. So what am I now? Am I the player, that plays her or am I an assistant, that resides inside of the game world? You could solve that in many ways. One way would be to tell the old frog, that I am her Player that guides her through the land and helps her with everything. This would have been more consistent and the fact, that the frog wouldn't have been surprised would have been an interesting experience like: Oh, okay. It's absolutely normal here that people are controlled by players. Wow. What a world. Another way would have been to add the player as a separate character that needs to follow Tilly. That way, we would really be her assistant. This also gives the opportunity to let tilly rest somewhere and give us the task to solve the door puzzle since she might already know the answer. That's also a small contradiction: If she was there before, shouldn't she know the answer to the puzzle? And if not - why is that? Do they change the combination frequently? If so, tell this to the player. It sells the whole thing better when Tilly would say something in that direction.

The World:

  • It is clearly winter, someone has built a lot of snowmen (but also lanterns into the woods?). In this world there are frogs that hibernate and need resources, that we can deliver to them. The frogs live in a village that is secured behind doors. The frogs of the village think that predators cannot solve their puzzle. Also: There is a company in this world that delivers goods and we are part of it.

First of all: That is a good base to tell a story on. Then: The world can use more small hints and lore everywhere. Let the player interact with the snowmen, the graves in the village, the hole in the ground before the village etc. Use all of this to tell little stories that make the world more believable. Have these frogs built the snowmen? Probably not since they are hibernating so who did it? What are these glowing orbs and how does Tilly activate them? Who built them? How do they work? Is it magic? Or ist it physics? Plant small pieces of information everywhere to make the world richer.

Another thing: The green orb. South of it there are no trees but in a scene before that you have shown the player, that he can leave the map by walking to the edge of the map where there are no trees. At this green orb, and on other points on the maps, this rule is broken. Stay consistent there with the game mechanics. Plant more trees there to prevent the map to be open at those spots. Also give the player something valuable at any spot. Like the spot south west of the gate where you can go into the woods but there is nothing more than the sprites of a tree trunk that is not interactable. Or the chest and barrel before the gates. Make them somehow interactable or remove them since they make the player curious and look like one could interact with it.

Finally the menu suggests, that there are Items and all the full power JRPG waiting in the game so it is a bit disappointing in the end when there is none of this in the game. The menu was not necessary IMHO because the game is a short game - what is absolutely okay. But as such it does not need a save or load system or character stats. (I know this all was probably part of the whole asset. I'm sure one can deactivate parts of it).

So, all in all: The game has a lot of potential. If it should be a JRPG style game one could add some predators in the woods to fight or use the item system to let the player pickup some items, that are needed to solve the puzzle. Also one or two more NPCs and a bit more interaction with the world would have been nice.

But: You can play the game, you have a clear task, you have to solve a puzzle, you have dialogues and you can finish the game. That is more than others are able to make for game jams. Especially if they work on it part time while being a student at university. So please take all of the above as my personal tips for you and I would love to see you working more on this game and building some more features into it.


Keep up the good work!

Submitted(+1)

I would have liked to see more frogs, but I see how this is the start of a larger adventure. I appreciated Tilly telling me why I couldn't follow the other paths instead of just hitting an invisible wall, nice touch!

Developer(+1)

Thank you for playing. Any feedback you wish to give? I'm always looking to improve.

Submitted(+1)

Hmm, I don't think I know enough about the direction you were taking the game to give much meaningful feedback. I'm assuming that after the delivery, some problem happens that forces Tilly into a larger adventure? Something to foreshadow that could have been good, maybe another traveler on the road to talk to who says something about trouble brewing? Just an idea.

How much story have you sketched out? Do you have several plot points in mind?

Developer(+1)

The story hasn't been expanded outside of this. Was thinking of doing a larger adventure with her and going to various frog settlements. Thank you for the idea of a foreshadowing idea, I'll implement them next update. Thank you for the feedback and playing!

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Developer(+1)

Thank you for playing. Any feedback you wish to give? I'm always looking to improve