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FELSKI_SKILLTREE

A complex plugin to create skilltrees for RPG Maker MV · By Felski

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Nodes that can be unlocked multiple times?

A topic by Gumbanomicon created Jan 12, 2019 Views: 319 Replies: 4
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Gumbanomicon5 years ago

Hi Felski,

I am pretty sure the answer is no, but is it possible for a node to be activated multiple times? This would allow common events that use variables to possibly increase their numerical bonus for each time the node has been activated. (Ex. a node with 2/5 Ranks.)  If this is not possible currently would it be considered in a future update? 

I was trying to find a way to event nodes such as this but have had no luck. I suppose I could have a separate node that turns a switch off and maybe that would turn an activated node off again? Allowing the variable to increase when the node is activated again? It seems clunky though. Maybe you know of a better way to event something like this? This is not a major issue for me and you can take your time replying.

Thanks

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FelskiDeveloper5 years ago

Hi Gumbanomicon,

you're right. The answer is actually no. There are two reasons for that:

  • First, it would make this plugin even more complicated and confusing and complex. 
  • Second, as you mentioned, this can already be achieved. Multiple nodes have the same effect and it is no problem to use the same common event for multiple nodes.

For your problem you could create one common event that increases the variable and assign it to multiple nodes. That way it gets increased every time and changing it would be easy, as you just have to change that one common event.

Best regards,
Felski

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Gumbanomicon5 years ago

I was pretty sure that was the only way to go about it too. It's functional at least but this was more about aesthetics than anything else. Other games that use skill trees often have multiple ranks per node and their skill trees look neat and organized. I had a friend play test this weekend and he had asked about multiple activation's of a node and had encouraged me to do nodes like that. At the moment I I have no nodes that need to call a variable through a common event, this was just a conceptual question.  I have noticed that the larger a skill tree is the higher chance something will be inputted wrong, that's on us developers though, but multiple activation means more nodes which in return means bigger skill trees. I know alterations to your plugin is a lot of work on your part and please know I am only stating my opinion and making suggestions. Thank you for your quick answer and I wish you the best!

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FelskiDeveloper5 years ago

Hi Gumbanomicon,

it seems that my answer came out a bit to rude last time. First of all, I wanted to say thank you for all your questions and feedback. It helps me tremendously when working on the plugin. 

Regarding my last message, I just wanted to say that from my standpoint the feature of multiple node unlocks doesn't outweight the amount of work that needs to be put in. 

It's actually quite hard to make this plugin work in all use cases. Most games might actually prefer more icon based skill trees like League of Legends Masteries, Shadow of War or Assasins Creed skilltrees.  So it might be worth moving the plugin more in this direction. I'm definitely look into such visual options, but at the moment I can't confirm anything.

Best regards,
Felski

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Gumbanomicon5 years ago

Hi Felski, 

I totally understand the extra work, you know better than anyone else. Your last post didn't sound rude it was just to the point. As for your coming  update  it sounded as if we will be able to use plugin commands to activate and unactivate a node? If that's the case it actually opens up quite a bit of stuff that can be done without having a bunch of repetitive nodes. I know that's not exactly what I asked about in this thread but it's still big news for my project.  It just leaves me with the question of can we use a variable as a cost for a node? I'm glad my questions have been helpful I was starting to think they may of started to become annoying. I've been happy with the look of the skill tree so far, it's more than I ever expected to have access to. League of Legends skill trees do look nice but I am fine with whatever look you decide to go with.  

Thanks again Felski.

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