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well said

thank you! 

I think all of life, collectives included, are very fluid. sometimes a collective is organized AROUND an idea (“a book club for charlottes web”, “more passive”) and sometimes a collective organizes THE IDEA (a political party or some other ‘producer’ of material (including intellectual material) (“more active”)

I envision this platform allowing both of these types of groups to exist and commingle. 

One example that I think of is like you and your group of friends from an irl situation. There’s not really anything *in particular* you may want to chat about, but the “idea” that is being produced by this collective is the friendship itself (maybe they’ll name themselves a silly name as a type in the platform)

I imagine a lot of uses will be this type of thing (especially related to content creators or other “more social” realms) which encompasses a ton of types of people, from research to activists to game clans to creator plurs and more.

I agree with the ask being kind of conservative. Originally the numbers were a lot higher but some said it came off as intimidating, so I “changed the scope” to just get the initial MVP. Another funding round will likely be needed as we are moving from MVP to scaling users

very helpful, thanks!

okay that’s pretty neat ngl 👀

i think i agree with the report for the most part (although it might’ve been weighted by my comments under all of those posts haha) and this has shown how this system can be useful for an individual (like Defender could use a Marvin and it’d help boost his communitizing abilities even further, the “stretch” of ORI is farther, etc etc etc. its turning from sing to plur, love it

I enjoyed this ! For a long time I've been interested in genetic evolution of algorithms, biological representations within ai, and other "overlaps" between the synthetic and the 'organic'. I hope you get funding for this as it is really interesting !

That being said I agree with sunrise oath that as someone not ultra-familiar with these topics, I did fail to understand various parts of the explanation or even the understandings about the varying game types and their significance etc. I love the mission but the specifics were unclear to me.

I think if you had a "long / expanded" article explaining it all that you could link to in a more succinct pitch, that would be the best of both worlds for both the layperson and the hyperfocused

I think this idea was really cool: ""Imagine Pokemon Go, except you go around down to see what thoughts you can find. A chatlog for life which you can use to leave notes anywhere in the world, but specifically for others in the same time and space. Similar to airdropping, but across time? ""


It reminds me of the old 3ds game "Find Mii". Would be really cool

I don't really get the first part ("layered sprints"). Similar to how I will copy a summary from the chat log with my favorite llm, and then start a new chat? 

I think if you are able to get it set up to be multiplayer and gamified, it could be a fun game or experience

I enjoyed this pitch. I think there are a lot of opportunities for this within varying infrastructures, both blockchain and off chain.

Some blockchain partners you may want to look into are bonfires.ai. That guy is super cool and working on knowledge graph agents. Let me know and I can get you connected to him on telegram

I also see some potential overlap between these mechanisms and the Virts platform, although we'd have to find ways to sew the frankenstein together haha. Regardless, I think projects like this are great for improving the landscape and epistemics of the field

cool tech, I'm likely not the ideal target audience for it though.

It would be really interesting if you had a "track record" of predictions and how many you hit / missed. Would really make someone go "wow" if you had a high hit rate (or, maybe some kalshi bets will start opening up about your site haha) 

Hmm. I think the pitch needs work, as I'm not really sure what the ask is. I also dont really understand whats going on with the $Marvin coin or what the utility is of it. This doesn't mean its not good, but it means I'm unable to vote this very highly because of confusion

I gave you two stars bc i kind of like some of the aspects of what you were saying. I think i even like the idea behind this one "Now, I want to be scrutinized by the ORI as closely as possible and evaluated for my level of trustworthiness" but also it kind of reads like one of those scam messages about needing an "honest and loyal sugarbaby"

tldr adjust the pitch at the minimum to create deliverables. Some good advice Defender gave me during this pitch jam was:

1. you might get money for you, and then maybe a really experienced dev shows up and says, this is amazing, I will self fund this by volunteering my time, let's do it
2. the resources may show up even if the cash on hand does not
3. if you describe how you will allocate it, it is more likely to get allocated
4. if you aren't sure how you will allocate it, then just say that/leave it blank/focus on the parts you know you need, to get you to the next step

Wow ! Great pitch, lots of inspiration in this one.

I, personally, love your idea and see lots of opportunities for collaborations with the Virts platform (or even just a standalone app would be useful for me (as a content creator) but I'd love a collab too ;P )

One specific use case is the STRANGE-LOOP COMPOSITION

One of the major use cases I intended for Virts was for better cultivating and managing/understanding the relationship between audience and creator. In general, the platform facilitates this by providing "in group space" for the audience to collectively process information together, "safe" from the outside world 

I can see this tool being a valuable addition within the platform by this use case, but also in:
-Plurs (collectives) reacting to OTHER collectives or creators (or even reacting to politics, like real time news streams)
-recording "Ghost Records" of videos (like the mario kart ghosts that you race against when trying to beat a high score, but its the valence) and being able to compare it "Plur vs Plur" etc

In a lot of ways this reminds me of those clickers that were used in school for interactive games or to flag if you have questions or issues etc (iClicker maybe?)

It also reminds me of those "stream games" that some people put up as an overlay, where chatting or interacting with some website can cause your name to show up (or allow you to fight, or do some other action etc)

I can see this project going really far if you're able to frame it in the right way and market it to the right people ! Also maybe look into the web3 crowd, I imagine there are collaborations to be made there

Would love to chat more ! awesome pitch and great demos

cool idea, i really like the website.

minus one start because I wish it was possible to see some kind of graphs or visualizations without logging in (perhaps some kind of "global" data or maybe your "most shocking findings" or something clickbaity to entice me to go "oh wait i wanna see myself!" i found myself slightly frustrated at how the posts just disappeared when i clicked on them, no "tactile response")

the written description reminded me a lot about the polls platform defender talks about, but the website implements it in a cool way. I could see myself on a phone "swiping" on the news.

I think there's a lot of room for collaborations with this kind of tooling and the Virts platform I'm building. In a lot of ways, every 'item' on a social media feed is the news and (like in the case of X, often) the news often surfaces through 'rumors' or primary sources in these places prior to being reported by the major institutions. I believe that the future of information, news, and knowledge is in the web, rather than belonging to any specific institution, and it could do a lot of good to have the backend of studying how the noosphere forms ("researchers in polarization and media framing" etc) on the larger scale of social media. 

On the Virts platform, each "Plur" is a collective (or 'society').
""The idea is to create a reusable civic infrastructure that can be adapted locally — with culturally appropriate naming — while sharing a common open core.

Each society could have its own “Memoria.”"" 

That's powerful, and looking at how different plurs interact with the same information on the global feed could give you lots of data wrt this: 
""

With sufficient data, Memoria could:

* Study how coverage of the same event differs across outlets  

* Measure how framing affects reader sentiment  

* Detect when different audience clusters respond differently to identical events

This opens the possibility of analyzing not just polarization among readers, but also **media framing effects across the ecosystem.**

It transforms Memoria from a voting tool into a research platform on public discourse dynamics.""

Anyways, love your site and pitch. Excited to see where we could tread ground toge

Political Movement: A political movement is a collective attempt by a group of people to change government policy or social values.

I'll be honest, it sounds like youre attempting to change the social values >,<

While I can appreciate the intent behind your idea, I'm unsure of the practicalities that go into something of this scope. There are many bibles, "standards", and competing political visions for the future of the country. It reminds me of this meme: https://xkcd.com/927/

I think if your goal is to develop political movement to change the culture of the country, thats perfectly fine. But we must embrace these things with our chest rather than hiding it behind a national religion. I agree with extenebrislucet in that I don't think Capital will allow this to be (in the grand scheme) in the sense of a "cult" or "new age religion".

Ideology aside, I think the technology behind the idea has some powerful lines of thought running into them.

I really love the mitosis concept, and envision similar mechanics within the Virts platform I'm building. I completely agree that people need the freedom to organize amongst themselves and develop safe cultures, to be protected within their own spaces and act as cells of a larger organism. I think you're really hitting on something vital when you're drawing on ideas of ""leveraging distributed systems thinking, cooperative economics, and ancient ritual patterns to produce resilient local solidarity at the precise moment national-scale institutions are losing legitimacy."" Institutions are failing and people DO need the ability to organize amongst the plurs where they can be safe

I would love to chat more about this, I think there's a lot of room for potential collaborations and discussions !

"did i wanna buy"

I think this pitch is extremely well written, but I am certainly not the target audience as I don't currently use a heavy ai coding setup (sometimes "browser based" ai coding but even that is infrequent) and would likely not be purchasing something like this so take my review with a grain of salt (unless i AM a target audience, in which case i did not feel like this appealed to me in a way i could attach to for a purchase)

"overall thoughts on the idea"

i do feel like this idea is a good one and will be extremely useful in the right hands

thank you for the feedback ! it was very helpful

Collective Intelligences are real. 

They're acknowledged across an extremely wide set of ideologies, cultures, and belief systems. Communities, demons and angels, spirits, egregores, gods, these are just a few names that people call the same idea.

Today, social media focuses on the individual self (or individual selves).

Algorithms are fostered to keep you echo chambered, allow you to float untethered within the Tee (cognitive space)

Virts = group identity + social feed + coordination

Virts is the first platform that focuses on the collective as the Primary Agent in the social realm, forcing higher quality interactions and signals to emerge.

We are enabling communities to be a productive force, instead of endless discourse

Human socialization in physical reality works like this: 

We buzz on one another, sometimes 1:1 and sometimes in larger groups. We agree on some things, and disagree on others. 

Sometimes this leads to new groups forming, sometimes this leads to old groups breaking, and sometimes this leads to both at the same time. The groups themselves drive influence, and also change the way that the people buzz IN the group, and also OUTSIDE of the group.

Virts brings this style of socialization to the modern front of culture and social activity: Social Media

We are giving the collective Virts the ability to adapt themselves and act as a single unit. We anticipate this will do a few things:





1) RE INTRODUCES COLLECTIVE RESPONSIBILITY

Individualistic social media scrolling and enjoying is great for learning, and development. But the knowledge that creators make and the knowledge that consumers take don't exist in a vacuum. 

Allowing the Collective to intentionally  "culture" information and together changes the way we view ourselves and one another.

When we act together as the group, we feel the weight of the group Identity within us

2) TRANSLATES TO MANY DOMAINS

Individual Focused social media is kind of a one track pony. It's good for broadcasting and sharing, but bad for development of ideas. Trends come and go, and then a few months later they come and go again. 

Collective Focused social media allows for people across all domains to connect, grow, and learn from one another over time.

In government, in volunteering, in activism, in content creation, or just in managing your friend group, Collective Focused social media solves issues that most people don't even realize they're having as a result of information overload

3) HELP EVERY-DAY PEOPLE PROCESS MORE INFORMATION IN AN INCREASINGLY DENSE WORLD

Collectives grow, develop their lines of thoughts, and birth new Collectives. 

Collective Focused social media allows for the full Circle of Life to occur in the digital realm, bringing increased information processing capacity to each and every person using it, simply through changing the medium that they receive their information in.



Engaging in Collective Communications and Collective Information Ecosystems in the Virtual is the natural progression of sociality and development, it's only fair that *everyone* gets access to this useful tool that currently only the *powerful* have access to

Today, most people turn to Fox News, CNN, X, Reddit, or Discord to get your information about the world. Isolated feeds, algorithm delivered, extremely biased, and not very information dense. Modern "philosophical" and "intellectual" institutions are in the connections between one another, not the old brick and mortar locations that served previous generations.

They provide a flood of noise, and Virts is the future-proof way of helping people process that noise into high quality signals

How Does It WORK ?

For any given social context, there is the "ingroup" and the "outgroup"

Virts serves this principle by fostering an internal community space, designed to collectively process and respond to stimuli

It also fosters a global community and "wild west", designed to create stimulus through the interaction of collectives.


While most social media prefers to keep you siloed and isolated, Virts believes in growth through friction and synthesis as a core part social interaction.

Society doesn't run because everyone agrees, it runs because everyone is willing to *work together*

Old models of social media break this consensus of mutual effort, and our model restores this mutual understanding.

Internal spaces of Virts are flexible depending on what a community desires. 

Pre-loaded options of "internal spaces" are:
-Community Forum
-Chat Server
-Polling and Data Gathering 

and pre-loaded options of "decision making and governance" are:
-dictatorship of the Virt (an individual or collective rules the space, and can empower others with varying permissions; designed for a specific purpose)
-democracy of the Virt ('first past the poll' style decision-making; designed for friends and family)

Virts are highly customizable by their lived-in communities, and new internal spaces and governance options are able to be DIY'd

The Business Model

• Tiered Access: Free tier for basic use, and a Paid SaaS tier offering advanced community analytics for server owners and research institutes.
• Direct-to-Virt Affiliate Marketing: Instead of the platform stealing 100% of ad revenue, Virts allows highly targeted affiliate marketing where the platform and the collective split the revenue. This incentivizes communities to grow, self-moderate, and engage with advertising presented to them

What We Need:

Building a new social medium is a large undertaking, and we can’t do it alone.

Virts is meant to be a platform built with collectives, not just for them.

We have multiple existing communities ready to plug in on day one, but we are actively looking for more people who want to help shape the future of collective intelligence online.

There are several ways to get involved:

$upporters and Investors:

If you believe that the future of the internet should move beyond algorithmic feeds and toward collective intelligence, we welcome conversations about funding, partnerships, and long-term support.

We are currently seeking an initial $56k to support the R&D period that it will take to:

• Complete core platform development
• Experiment with collective interaction models
• Onboard and support early communities
• Conduct research on collective intelligence systems
• Establish Virts as the first dedicated Collective Intelligence Social Platform

(phase 1 - 56k) This is how the initial funding will be allocated in the initial months:

25k + equity will go towards onboarding a specialized technical co-founder

15k for addressing research costs + finalizing the MVP

10k for me + living expenses

4k for a renegade marketing strategy to content creators, political parties, and other cutting-edge community groups

This leaves a $2k cushion to be allocated as needed when circumstances arise

Our goal during this phase is to prove that collective-first social systems can outperform individual-first platforms in knowledge development and community organization.

Builders & Designers

We are always looking for bright engineers, designers, and system thinkers who are excited by:
-Collective Intelligence
-Social System
-Memetics / Agentic Information Transfer / entropology
-Emergence in communities
-Alternative Social Media platforms
-Building a better future

This platform will require new interface ideas, new interaction models, and new ways of visualizing collective thought. If this is exciting to you, we'd love to chat :D

Researchers & Philosophers

The ideas behind Virts touch many fields:
-Sociology
-Memetics
-Philosophy
-Social Systems and Political Systems
-Psychology
-Network Science
-many more

If you are fascinated by thinking or studying how groups behave, organize, evolve, then your perspective may be useful either with internal studies, or in your observations on Virts' public chain of relationship actions, allowing you to have direct feedback and data from real world movements and collective influences

Early Users and Communities

We are looking for people willing to experiment with a new way of social media. 

If you are interested in how ideas grow, how communities can better organize knowledge, or how groups and cultures can emerge in the age of mass communications and information, then we want you involved early. 

Your participation will help shape how collectives form, evolve, and communicate on the platform. Our goal is to make YOUR lives better, not the other way around.

We are especially interested in communities that want to experiment with collective identity and decision-making. Whether you're:

• a research group

• an online community

• an activist organization

• a creative collective

• or simply a group of friends

Virts is designed for groups that want to think and act together online.

*about the author*

Kat the Vat is a modern content creator and the initial thinker of Virtualism: A Philosophy for Social Interaction in the Virtual Age. Her unique positioning as a content creator enables a large reach for any budding social media platforms, and she is well networked among many up-and-coming gen z movements and communities. Her unique experiences as a curator of attention and also a community manager led to research into varying governance styles, and a desire to modernize social engagement for the future. She believes that online communities, typically viewed as a "leader" and "followers", is much better imagined as a 'Yin and Yang', two forces contributing to one larger mass.