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That is not the solution for 13 or 14

the idea you have might be the solution to 14, not 13

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Here is a link to my hint list, since it hasn’t been posted in a while: https://itch.io/post/12746349

Looking at a walkthrough for a level you are stuck on is a slippery slope that quickly leads to looking up the solution for every level that poses some resistance, even ones you could have solved. Imo its better to make this process have a lot of friction so people don’t readily use it, by making them scrub through a let’s play (one exists) or have to ask and wait for a reply.

got 4B by being lazy and going down to 1 to open all the doors, 10B seems like a good challenge but my wrist is already in pain going back and forth so many times. if you had click-to-pathfind-there that would be much better.

No, i proved an upper bound that is likely reachable, i couldnt keep track of the bottom right area well enough to be sure

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1.4874^10 (written this way as a spoiler) is the max score with regular knight movement, and you can trivially get any score below that by starting n moves into the path. It seems like a different movement shape also maxes out at the same score, i wish it were slightly higher.

its not “you can normally move but stay in place sometimes”, but actually “you don’t normally move but can sometimes”, that might help you figure it out

i answer one of those questions here, though the other two i give a hint that will help in a different way https://itch.io/post/12746349

no, its not just mirrored. maybe the shape of the rooms of the other level will help you narrow down what you are looking for

seems to happen sometimes on mobile, or on pc when chrome isnt updated. people tend to have better luck with saving on the lexaloffle page than itch, though i suspect this is a weird chrome security policy about filesystem use when its behind on security updates

ah you’re right, that isn’t the intended solution to 43. i’ll inform werxzy

you are correct that you can’t eat it from the top, but incorrect that you can’t go anywhere after eating from below

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you don’t need to fly on 48 or 49, those are just about moving the block sideways without dropping it. in star 4 you need to do that sort of thing but in a way that lets you get back onto red. you were supposed to take the text out of the code block for it to apply the markup formatting but just having a link is ok as anti-spoiler

yeah some other people have had trouble with that in a bad way. ive told werxzy to make an edit to that level to reduce frustration back on may 8th but he hasnt responded, probably busy with something.

the proposed edit isadd a wall 3 left and 1 down of the exit, to make it more obvious some wrong ideas will never work

come on, you asked for the full solution in another comment already, before asking for a further hint

dont put it in a code block, put the thing you want hidden where “content” is. i meant for you to explain where you are mentally, like what do you think needs to happen but you cant get to happen. but based on your screenshot i can say this much:

spoilerpush red up by just 1 and get back on top, then repeat, rather than going up 2 in a row

idk what part of the solutions u need help with, explain where you are. put it in a spoiler like this https://itch.io/post/12746436

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one of your statements is false
edit: well im not sure if you edited the part i was saying is false but you evidently figured it out within the day

your analysis about ending lengths is correct, and you are in a winnable state still

added a nested hint that explains the first hint https://itch.io/post/12746349

you are right that blue must eat the last fruit. the current hint is about how to do the step you are missing, its about how to get into the position you want but you will have to figure out what that position is yourself

yeah ingame help system is not possible to add due to pico-8 limitations, make do with the hints or spoilers in the comments. getting stuck and overcoming it is a part of the puzzle game experience, its not for everyone

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added a nested elaboration

ive added a hint that tells you the fruit order, but the first and third hints are way more likely what you are missing

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ive added a second hint and reworded the first one slightly

did you check the hints in the comments below? and please people put your hints in spoilers https://itch.io/post/12746436

i added a second hint for J though the first one should be sufficient if you actually read it https://itch.io/post/12746349

you dont need to get across the spikes in any fancy shape

ive added a nested hint, but the first hint should have been sufficient

it says right in the title and all over the page that its a demake of snakebird, of course you have seen it before? though this game has several new mechanics and is more like a sequel

i added a nested hint to that, though the second one gives away a lot of the solution

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in your user settings enable “Prefer Markdown input where available.” then the text in the following code block will create the spoiler below.

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I don’t believe in giving out the solution to a puzzle, only giving hints that make it easier but still allow you to say you solved it yourself. If you think a hint doesn’t help enough, reply and I will try to improve it.

General TipsYou don't need to solve the levels in order, they are roughly sorted by difficulty within each island, with the hardest ones optional in the corners. You may find upper jungle levels easier than snow.
Don't expect to make constant progress, take a break and come back with a fresh perspective. When you solve a level and don't understand how, go back and analyze what you did to learn from it, this will help you tackle harder levels.
Intro
A check the controls below the game
B no hint needed
C save the apple to stand on
D x/v to swap control, eat both with the same snake
E save the grapes to stand on
F don't get the block stuck against the right wall
G this level showcases "reverse parking" multiple times
H save the apple to stand on
I move down while the block is on your head to get under it
J eat all with the same snake, using the same trick in different orientations
... fruit order isbanana, grapes, orange
... further hint for grapesyou can push something that you are standing on
K eat banana first, pear can't be eaten from the bottom platform
Snow
1 to eat the banana you must have eaten just the pear and 1 orange
2 eat the banana in a way that leaves that snake extractable
3 eat with yellow, reach exit from the right
... further hintrecall level J
4 repeat the trick you did in the bottom right
5 eat with red, then get the block hanging off the left edge of the ground
6 eat with yellow, ratchet up
7 you can push the elevator up into your retracting tail to change green's shape inside
... the end state isfull elevator with green left of blue
8 turning blue around by supporting with green off the right edge won't work
... elaborationyou still need to turn blue around, just not there
9 eat the grapes from left
10 no hint needed
11 eat apple first
12 leftmost fruit is eaten with red, 3rd-from-left fruit is eaten with green
13 clear out the fruit in the rightmost 3 and leftmost 3 columns early, besides the 4 you will get on the way out
14 you are ultimately trying to get green in a J shape going DDL with the block on its tail
... useful intermediate stateblue in a J shape going DL with the block on its tail
... earlier useful intermediate stategreen under blue under block, with green going DLL
Upper Jungle
15 no hint needed
16 eat leftmost first
17 eat bottom-left second
18 save a bottom corner and bottom center for last
19 eat candy last
20 eat and fall in same move, but don't fall again the very next move
21 save 2nd or 4th for last
22 eat top-right first
23 eat top-right with blue first, bottom-right last
24 no left-moves are needed until after you eat the candy
Lower Jungle
25 in case you missed it in 22, reaching length-1 does something useful
26 no hint needed
27 no hint needed
28 you can't save the box after blue exits
29 jump
30 no hint needed
31 eat apple first, gain 1 height with each other fruit
32 get all under the wall keeping 2 empty rows between the bird and lower spikes
33 you can elevate with the bird on top or bottom of the snake
34 recall level 29
35 eat all with green going counterclockwise
... further hintleave red at the top, then help it back inside at the bottom
Sunset
36 each snake eats one on left, then one on right
37 pear, banana, orange, apple
38 no hint needed
39 turn around while standing on the fruit
40 eat both with blue
41 to get a lower block over, you might need to lift the block that is on top of it up
42 wrap around one side while dropping the tail off the other
43 4 and 3 is enough to wrap around a spike
... further hint for fruitafter eating you will have length-3 pass over the middle spike to a support on the other side, but the side spikes will trap you if you go down to reach the support
44 recall levels G and I
45 get under the block by going down 2 with right prong on you, or down 3 with left prong on you, 4 times
46 LURU shape needed to get in second pocket, but when could you have gotten the other bird in position?
47 for getting block off the spike, 4+1 and 2 is enough to wrap around a spike
... help understanding the first hintrecall level 43 and check the hint for that
... for getting to exituse rightmost column
48 push the block while your tail is on it
49 push the block while its on your tail
50 stand on the fruit and reposition the other two so you can recover from eating it
Cloud+
*1 this is just a tutorial showing you can push into the side of your tail
*2 set up the shape of purple in the middle, then push it off with yellow
*3 eat with 3 on 4 on 3, exit with 2 on 3 on 4
*4 you will need to move sideways with red to get into the right position
*5 to get red back to the left it will be in a P shape
... to get back to the rightit will be in a shape with the same outline rotated 180 (or there is an alternate solution)
Void
W you need the space between the spikes to turn around
X save the second-highest fruit for last
Y find both ways to gain height in *4, then you will need to find 2 more tricks to turn around inside the rooms and get an UUR hook in the right place
Z tail hook again
? input the shortest solution without undoing. this unlocks a bonus variation of 7, 24, 35, 48, *2 which I will not give hints for

have some patience and try the remaining ones again. maybe take a break and come back to them with a fresh perspective. ill try making a list of hints but it will take some time, since there are a lot of levels to cover.

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ok finished the game, level 8 has extraneous floating pillars, level 16 has unneeded top row of floor. i thought 17 and 24 were excellent. the bug mentioned above was never involved in a solution.

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im pretty sure this is a bug make a C with a disconnected body, face vertically inside it, digest, now you have a tail intersecting a disconnected body and can cause further unintended-seeming stuff like diagonal pushes, destroying the player without falling in a hole, etc

loved the sounds

i suggest adding mouse input, ps+ has that

I made an oversight designing level F1, please don't pick left-facing crowbar.

rot13 hints:
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