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Well, I hate to be "that guy" here, but I Imported my previously Exported (Saved) Game so that I could implement your Fix (ie. change Variables to the Ordered ones I wanted before the BUG happened), but when I Set my End-Boss + Gate (Magic Door) Link to my previous Variable, you guessed it, it was STILL turned ON!!!

Thanks for your prior Fix, but it didn't seem to work...

I DO have some GOOD NEWS for you though, to help you pin it down better:

- besides some of MY TRS Games in the Editor, it ALSO Happens when you Beat and Replay certain Users' created Games too!

Here's a list (only small right now until I've played ALL 33 [excluding Serving Time!]) of those TRS Games: 

1. Diguifi Studios': Tiny RPG Tutorial.

2. JeanCarls': Tiny RPG Test (the First Fan-Made TRS Game, just a bit before: The Worst RPG Ever).

Wow, that was FAST! Thank you so much!

Yes, it was literally breaking my games to the point that I wasn't sure there was even a way to fix it, and I barely started using TRS when I noticed the Bug right away. I even tried the Reset button and Reloading the WebPage, but to no avail.

I really appreciate you breaking it down the way you did, and also for other users. It shows how much you and Diguifi Studios care about this nice little engine you've made. I'm more than happy to report any Bugs so that it can make TRS even better. You even made a failsafe to prevent that Bug, which is awesome!

You're quite welcome for the feedback and TRS Games count. I've had other itch.io users alert me of other Bitsy-like engines within the past few months or so as well (eg. Whimtale, Wareware), so it's only fitting that yet another would point me to TRS. I'm grateful.

I've not been using TRS (Tiny RPG Studio) very long, but as is sometimes common with these small browser-based engines, the logic within the Editor can get messed-up, particularly variables.

After putting 2 gates ("magic doors") in 2 different rooms and an end-boss with a variable to open gate #2, then playing my game in the Editor, once I run the Game and beat the boss, the variable I used for gate #2 has: Current State: ON, and Stays Set At That (ie. that variable CAN'T be used again EVER in my game, as it's PERMANENTLY Now ON!).

Any fix for this apparently OVERLOOKED BUG???

PS: Off-Topic, there are currently 34 TRS Games made (your Milestone of 30 is MISSING: Serving Time by VeryLukely [well, he's HIDDEN it, so good luck with that one!], Tutorial by Diguifi Studios [you list it on one of your pages though], Test by JeanCarls, The Legend Of Elda by Luisworks Studios [thanks to him that I even found TRS!]). And that's NOT including any other content creators who choose to make more TRS Games in the future who may just decide to only post on their itch.io Profile instead of here.

The link I gave has a more-detailed way to put a Fight System in if ever you need it. Your alchemy table bug may be due to using Bitsy HD. I've not really used that much because I'm not big on outdated Bitsy Forks. I can suggest 2 that are Newer than BHD though: Bitsy Color (Tools: Settings: Default Size for NEW Drawings), and Bipsi HD (found here: https://kool.tools/bipsi/?hd=true). :)

You're quite welcome. I thought you did a fairly good job with your fighting system (did you use Shuffle lists?). If you need full help on how to make an RPG in Bitsy, please see this:

https://github.com/david-c14/BitsyTrix/wiki/RPG-Fight

Also, you can only make 1 potion (the other always reads as: 0). And ok, the one-time-use item makes sense for why the lever glitch happens. You can stack items, if that helps with your issue.

Bitsy hacks aren't frowned-upon afaik. I just prefer to not use any, since I like tinkering-around in game engines (eg. I've done a lot of work in OHRRPGCE, and after I recently-found again the 'Lights' Bitsy Game, I actually made a version of it in Bitsy Unlocked using Room Duplicates, which taught me a lot about those, but I plan to also make it in actual browser engines that use HD, like: Bitsy Color, Bitsy HD, and Bipsi HD).

I may find a way to make your Graves' Save System without using hacks, as it would surely be a boon to be able to save in Bitsy without using hacks. I'm busy with life right now, but taking a bit of time now and then to check-in on the Forum in case anyone needs help. :)

Ah, Bitsy HD; I'd wrongly assumed your game was made in Bitsy. Looking forward to the finished game! Thanks for your feedback as well. Cheers!

I already gave the solution in my post. Please read:

Lastly, when played in Bitsy Unlocked or Bitsy, the Sprites are all messed-up (not at all how they look in-game when playing from the .html). 

(If either of you still don't understand, it means: All you do to play in your browser is click the .html that you download. And if you want to edit it, you simply open Bitsy or Bitsy Unlocked and click the: Game -tab, then: Save -> .html: Load Game).  EDIT: As per Tahoma255's revelation, TBC was made in Bitsy HD, so only Tahoma255 can make any actual game edits in that.

As a WIP, there's some grammar errors. Gamewise, I like that it's a Bitsy RPG (love those!). I played the whole way through (somewhat big, but manageable). The Cyclops has longer-than-needed blank dialog, and the End-Boss (Pig-Man?) is uninteractive (expected, as it IS a Demo). I had to play through again due to leaving the castle after I'd opened the gate. I like where this is going. Are the tombstones meant to be some sort of "save point" markers? They seemed to work (I only died once), but I'm interested in how you'd get such "magic" to work in Bitsy (without a Hack at least). Also, how'd you do those exits? They don't look like a normal Bitsy effect. Lastly, when played in Bitsy Unlocked or Bitsy, the Sprites are all messed-up (not at all how they look in-game when playing from the .html). Think I covered all that I wanted to say here (too late to still be up and I need sleep). Thanks for the WIP's release!

I found this a little while back. PJ, even though it's a game that's too short, your way with words somehow hits its mark because I burst into tears EVERY single time I play this! Way to make it hit home. Good job!

UPDATE: Nevermind, I just now came across it by accident while going through Bitsy Game Jams! In case anyone's interested, it's from BJ 72 (Bad Weather). Here's the game's link:

https://stonesable.itch.io/lights

Can anyone help me out in finding the Bitsy (or a fork) Game that has the avatar/player carrying a match (I think), then a candle, and then later finding and carrying a lantern? I found it some time ago and enjoyed it, but can't seem to find it again (I'm sure it's in my bookmarks, but I may've lost it when I stupidly locked myself out of my main Google Chromebook account and had to use my older saved data). Thanks in advance!

Wasn't sure where to post (here or your forum post), so I chose here, since it's the actual full game's page. I've been waiting for the finished product ever since you first posted the demo awhile back.

I must say, the work you put into this is amazing (no need to go over it all here, as others here and on your forum post page have commented about that), though I WILL say that the finished project is very cohesive and works so well together that you'd never notice it all was pieced-together into a game.

The plot is very touching, and makes the whole game an absolute joy to play, as it evokes feelings of sadness and the entire weight of a vanished society, which lends well to the raw emotion of humanity.

And the use of actual replayability mechanics makes it even more fun!

Overall, a real treat to play, as there's a lot to appreciate in such a small game here. Thank you kindly, I really enjoyed it!

Cosmo (maker of WT [Whimtale]) has made such an amazing engine (combines Bitsy elements with Twine [Blocks]), and he's been really responsive and helpful!

And the five of you here seem to have just as helpful a forum/community! It's so good to see, especially since itch.io is an incredible website for developers and indie game-makers.

Sorry, forgot to say that I currently use a Chromebook, but thanks to your suggestion, I'll definitely look for a KB Shortcut for a Middle Mouse Button!

And you're right on the money with that awesome tip for how to Delete a Sprite in a Room; it's probably the Most Overlooked feature in WW and I definitely should have noticed it sooner, THANK YOU!!!

As for Nancy Goo, I reached-out to the creator (no reply yet) and I figure there's nothing more that can be done, as I've Waited literally Five+ Minutes, but it never gets that far, as it tends to CRASH and I'm Forced to Reload the WebPage.

Thanks so much for the help!

UPDATE: Just tried Pressing (Click-Hold [NOT Tap-Hold!]) 3 Fingers on TrackPad and then Scroll Around, which WORKS to Rotate the WW Map/Room, in case other CB Users need to know this! Thanks again for your help, as you've answered all my questions!

(For those wondering how to make a Sprite be a Temporary Wall, simply Add a Message, but I'm sure most people know this by now.

For a Permanent Wall, I'd guess from playing all WW Games so far but 1 [Nancy Goo just won't Load!], unless people have made new ones on their itch.io Profile that IDK about [which is very possible!]: they seem to be Invisible Tiles that are on the Same Level as your Avatar [only way I know of, since that'll stop you from falling off Ledges and into Holes].

Also, Reload WW Editor WebPage to Make a New Game, as the 'New Game' Button Makes a BUG'd Room [1 small block to stand on]!  I find it much like Minecraft and Luanti that WW defaults to a Room where you're FORCED to build onto the existing Block Tiles rather than be able to Draw where you want, same as you MUST Copy/Dupe Room 0 and use Invisible Sprites for Exits in order to Make "New" Rooms.)

The MAIN THING this Game Engine needs really badly is the ability to ERASE SPRITES From Rooms!

It's so annoying placing a Sprite by Mistake, only to realize that the only way to "Delete" it from a Room is to Copy a Sprite and make it Invisible, but even then (eg. if you need to see those Sprites, you can Fill with a Solid Color), you can quickly make Multiples of said Sprite in a Room that way, so you're not actually getting rid of Sprites.

Please add a way to Erase Sprites from Rooms so that this cute editor will have the Much-Needed function it's been lacking! Thank you!

One more thing if you can: a Rotate Map (Room) feature would be amazing (having to Zoom on a Certain Part of a Room just to "Move" the Room to where you want it is frustrating!).

Oh, and maybe a way to Place Tiles fast WITHOUT that Glitch (you know the one, where if you keep holding down, the Tiles Automatically Pile-Up on each other!).

Keep up the good work! :D

Hi, sutexii. Sorry to say, this is the only WW game I can't play! It just HANGS on the green (loading) screen.

I've read the comments and it seems you have a good game here, but I can't play it. Do you know what's up? My specs are:

- Chromebook (but I've tried on my Cellphone too, same thing!)

- Google Chrome browser

Thanks a lot, Cosmo! I noticed this only today and it works just fine!

Also, Import NEVER showed your TileSet for me until after your v1.0.0 update!

My next project in WT is gonna be a simpler form (like Bitsy has) of your RPG Combat System, once I get it figured-out. (I'm gonna fiddle with Wareware for a bit, since Khi-R told me about it yesterday.)

What a lovely 3D engine (reminds me of Bitsy 3D and Bitsy Color 3D, but with more stuff!).

I just found this editor today, thanks to Khi-R!

Looking forward to making stuff in this. :)

I don't know where Piteas and you are finding these great browser tools, but thank you both so much!! I'll definitely try Wareware in a bit! Have an amazing day! (It's been snowing here and lots on the ground, so an early Christmas gift I suppose...)

And this:

Hey, Cosmo! THANKS for what you did reply to; I know you're busy, man.

I totally agree about stupid AI. And sorry to hear about Hollow Woods; I hope you'll try to re-make what you lost at some point!

So I thought of a way to SS my Cut-Off ToolTips Text only last night while in bed: Use my Cellphone to Camera-Shot a couple pics of my Chromebook screen! :D So, here they are:

Though you've explained about the WT engine and its limits with ToolTips, here's what I could glean from a brave search (FWIW):

In general software or web-based interfaces, tooltip cutoffs are often caused by CSS properties such as overflow: hidden on parent containers, which clips content that extends beyond the element's boundaries. Adjusting the overflow property to visible or ensuring the tooltip container dynamically resizes to fit its content can resolve this. For instance, in a CSS tooltip, if the parent element restricts overflow, the tooltip text may be cut off unless the overflow is explicitly set to visible.

Additionally, in some cases, specific characters like commas or semicolons in the tooltip text can cause truncation in certain editors, such as the Buff Editor in Warcraft III, where text is cut at the first comma or semicolon. This behavior may be due to how the engine parses the string, and the workaround is to avoid using such punctuation or restructure the text.

In summary, tooltip cutoffs are typically due to either hard limits in the engine, CSS overflow settings, or parsing issues with special characters. Solutions involve adjusting the content structure, modifying CSS rules, or using engine-specific configuration options.

PS: Do you have a list hidden within WT itself of all the ToolTips?

Well, I'm just thinking of Performance issues, that's all.

I've 2 final questions and 1 important SECURITY Alert for you.

     Security Alert (if I try to just even save an image on here):

Security Warning: Recently, scammers have been posting comments sharing fake update and download links for the game. These links lead to malware. Official game updates are always on the game's itch.io page, never from external links in comments.

1. Hollow Woods: I saw the banner of this on one of your posts below (115 Days Ago). Is it an actual game you're making?

2. How do I access your default TileSet within WT? I've found no button about it, yet your v0.6.0 Update clearly shows it (under Import Tiles), along with Asset Browser, which is where??? I re-made your 2 Tutorials via drawing your 'granny' and other assets in WT, since I couldn't find your default TS.

PS: Do you plan to release the source code for your Battle System? (Since you can't see any text from your pic.) As you may know, someone made an RPG System awhile back for Bitsy, which is very simple compared to yours for Whimtale. 

PPS: Thanks for the v1.0.0 Update! (I read the page for it, but the only 2 things I noticed that mattered to me were: Up-Down Arrows BUG Fixed, and do I see that you slowed-down Player Movement Speed somewhat? Yes! But SADLY, I still have the Actor Scenario Blocks' ToolTips Text being Cut-Off issue!)

Thanks again for your time, as always, and have a great day. :)

I understand that programming's hard (most I ever did was alter monster stats in Luanti [formerly Minetest], but that was just editing existing code for the most part, and some coding in OHR), so just take your time.

As for the rest of your replies, thanks for more details once again, but I'm quite sure you'll get what I was asking when I tell you this: I simply meant, is there a way you can make the infinite space of Blocks (in Actor Scenarios) less-huge? I realize you wanna give us an ever-growing/expanding area to put our code blocks into, but shouldn't you limit the size that it can get rather than make it an infinite space?

Lastly, now that you know that I wasn't asking for just a way to avoid cut-off text, but also limiting the infinite space (which I'd guess'd also have Performance issues if someone were to fill a big enough area with too much code?! [like what happens in Bitsy if your game has too many exits, code, or is too long!]), I'm all about Performance (hell, I used to play PS2 games in an emulator and I'd ALWAYS set it so that it was playable; who cares about pretty gfx!), so don't get swamped with trying to fix stuff in Blocks that don't need fixing (eg. leave the: zoom-out makes boxes lose their text :alone!).

Thanks for such a fast reply, I appreciate it. :)

Here's a Screeny of the issue, but note that there's NO pop-ups of text showing cut-off text, as I'm on a Chromebook and my page zoom is set to 80% in order to see all of a webpage's things, etc, and I can't SS the popup due to press-holding the SS shortcut keys (and there's no right-click menu to take a SS with the trackpad). I'm gonna post the rest of my replies after this pic (couldn't find how to put more AFTER my pic below!).

Oh. I've been tinkering with it. It's so much fun!

Thanks for the replies, man.

1. So far, two of us have spread the word on the Bitsy Forum, so thanks for the permission! (He got ahead of me two days ago, darn.)

2. Looking forward to the controls update!

5. That'd be great, man! (It reminds me of the OHRRPGCE engine back when I used Desktop PCs, had so much fun editing and making demo games in that [especially editing Grapnes 2 Demo!] even more than the RPG Maker series!)

3. Thanks for that info, tho I actually meant if you could somehow make the Blocks  map screen less huge? (After doing and making your 2 Tutorials for myself the other night, I was actually able to code my own stuff in for the Fetch-Quest, so it didn't take me too long to catch-on to the once-overwhelming blocks setup; what a treat! Still gonna be awhile figuring-out what all the other command blocks do tho!)

Also, if you could make a better setup for the Blocks' Fit Screen option, like maybe Resize a bit better for a Set/Fixed Position, as I found the Fit option actually made my Boxes so small that there was NO Text in 'em once I'd made a fair-sized tree of code, and then Zooming wouldn't keep/save my bigger, Resized Boxes, as it kept defaulting back to the small boxes when I went to a different actor!

4. Whatever change you can make to the CUT-OFF Icons and Blocks info would be so appreciated, because I'd love to know what the rest of the info for all those says!

Thanks so much, Piteas! I now have a new browser engine (besides Bitsy Unlocked, Bitsy Color, etc) - Whimtale - to use! :D

Aww, you got ahead of me, Khi-R, lol. I just got a reply from the WT Creator to my questions that I had. Thanks for spreading the word.

I only found Whimtale going on a week now, thanks to Piteas!

The blocks were a bit overwhelming (similar to Twine's passages), but after doing CoMiGo's 2 Tutorials (and creating them myself!), I caught-on quite quickly, and have even made some of my own coding for the Fetch-Quest one, so I think more ppl should try it out, since once you get the hang of the Tuts, you can start coding a while after that.

Hi, CoMiGo! I found this wonderful Bitsy alternative just 2 days ago thanks to a post by Piteas! I barely started using it, but I just have a few questions for you, if you would please?

1. Why isn't this AMAZING Tool being touted on the Bitsy Forum (since Bitsy Color, Bipsi, Mosi, Bitsy HD, Bitsy 3D, Bitsy Color 3D... are!), even at least to be listed when Bitsy+ Game Jams are announced???! (If not for checking a game by Piteas, I NEVER woulda found Whimsy-Whimtale!)

2. Is there a better Control Scheme? When playing WT Games in Browser or even using the Editor, the Up and Down Arrows Move the Screen instead of the Hero! (I know you'll say "That's why you use W and S, but Bitsy Engines don't have this issue, and it should be addressed in WT rather than Forcing Players to use Alternate Keys!)

3. Is there a way for you to make the Blocks screen (fashioned after Twine's Passages) a bit easier to manage? Having an infinite space to move 'em around can become aggravating (Minor Gripe).

4. Why are the "?" Icons' and Blocks' Information CUT-OFF when you Hover Over 'em? Frustrating, as I don't know what else they say, which could be Important!

5. Do you have plans to implement Hero Walking Speed (Movement) in the future? This is the main gripe I have with WT, as I find it annoying that Movement's NOT Pixel-Based, therefore you can Walk Very Fast, reaching Room (Stage) Areas in no time! (Unless you use Hidden Items or Make a Maze of Walls. If nothing else, I guess you can always just Manually Move One Step At A Time...)

Thank you SO MUCH for Making and Improving on this INCREDIBLE Tool, sir!

Satirical, but true of the downgrade in society since the Covid-19 BS that led to all the disturbing activism! Love your use of variables, the exits in the dark room, and the replay value of the 2 Endings. Great job!

I agree with Valeriy! :D Very cool! Thanks!

It's called the Hausa Virus, just so others can look it up.

I personally still use ONLY :

https://ledoux.itch.io/bitsy

ALSO: The BUG that makes a sprite, etc appear many times in a room ("scrambled" as you call it) in a Bitsy game STILL EXISTS! It's annoying, and one reason why I prefer Bitsy forks, but a webpage reload will fix it. Just letting you know the BUG is still in your code.  :)

PS: It's the SAME BUG that I first posted in my:

Rooms: Walls Issue, Exits & Endings Issue

Nice little game. I like it! The music has old-timey medieval vibes. I assume you made the music yourself? Surprised no-one commented before this.

Hi, bambuloid. Sorry, seeing this late 2023 post only now. I encourage you to continue with this game! I love Westerns, Pirate, Space, RPG, etc. This would be a great addition in my view. Hope you haven't forgotten about it!

Any updates?

Hi, Adam! Sorry, I had to come back on and Edit my original post just tonight. I'll UPDATE you on what I've recently put here.

So, the http Site (of make.bitsy.org) is NOT ok to visit, as it IS INFECTED with a VIRUS, and HACKERS Are using it, as PROVEN by the Google Chrome browser Warning, BUT ALSO: It AFFECTS the https version, which is why my NoScript keeps BOTH Sites UNTRUSTED as per my setting (BLOCKED).

My PROOF is that on Oct 18, I was in the Bitsy Editor via: https://make.bitsy.org -all night and into Oct 19 before I slept, and I had all kinds of VIRUSY Behavior from the https Site itself (couldn't type just normal stuff in the URL Bar while on it, and the latest thing: It later kept making a Pop-Up occur of: Google Translate - Hausa to English. After that, My Chromebook slowed to a crawl and then FROZE!)

So, in closing, I'd Advise that everyone use your very first Bitsy Editor site:

https://ledoux.itch.io/bitsy

...or they put themselves at RISK while using it. Thank you for acknowledging.

Everyone, please be advised! The website:

http://www.make.bitsy.org/

...is Infected by a VIRUS (Hackers are using it!), as Shown by Google Chrome's alert!

(I used my NoScript to set the infected site to: Untrusted, just to be safe)

That, in turn, AFFECTS:

https://make.bitsy.org/

...as my NoScript automatically recognized it as the SAME, INFECTED Site (just with no Warning)!

NOTE: The Main Bitsy Editor Website:

https://ledoux.itch.io/bitsy

...is still just fine, so just be careful what you search for on the internet!

Hey, skisbees. I enjoyed this nice little space game, despite its shortness. Thanks for making it. :)

Nice game, ghostsnwitches. Thought-provoking.

Just wanted to put this out there, as it's something I noticed awhile back and it still hasn't been fixed.

When you click the ROOMS tab and then the WALLS button, the first room shows walls normally, BUT when you try to check your other rooms, the solid white color and icon of the walls will either:

- Change into multiple copies of your avatar or a sprite!

OR:

- Vanish from a room altogether!

ADAM, if you see this message, could you Please FIX this? It may seem like a minor bug/issue, but it's actually quite important in determining whether your tiles are actually registering as walls or not, and makes it a huge pain when checking for walls!

Edit: I forgot to also mention that this same issue happens when you move from one to the next in EXITS & ENDINGS too!

Thank you so much in advance, Adam!

Hi, Valeriy. Deepest apologies. I'm not david-c14, it's just 1 of a few links I'd found while doing more research on Bitsy awhile back. Wish I could take the credit, but my knowledge is more limited when it comes to variables and such, and certainly not as good as yours, Akaki's, Andrew Yolland, etc, not even as knowledgable as Adam's, the man himself. I've learned a fair amount about Bitsy via searches when looking for workarounds and such, but still not spent as much time in Bitsy as I'd like, 'til I can devote more time to it. In the meantime, I really appreci8 all u guys and the others who've imparted their own Bitsy wisdom over the past few years, and I seek to learn even more. Once again, sorry if u thot I was him, IDK that could be how my post was read or interpreted. :) 

Hi, Akaki. Just like to add a link here that you could've used to help with your project:

https://github.com/david-c14/BitsyTrix/wiki/RPG-Fight

I have other useful links concerning Bitsy, as well, but that should help give even more insight into making Bitsy RPGs. :D