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this is actually a really cool set of ideas. this would be nice to try to replicate in my next baba is you level.

ngl, this kinda feels better as a pure Sokoban variant than the original series

not puzzlescript but tagged as such, please change tag

can use tree as ramp

another tip for the last level would be to have the key open up a hole for one of the guys, that way the key is not just a strictly positive thing

this is a good way to do minesweeper.


100%?

this is the most youtube videos I have ever seen in a comments section

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I don't like mouse games.

but this one's not the worst at least.

rule should change to 4.

one of the most creative sokoban-trick mechanisms I've seen

(3-box thing)

I'm not officially a professional, I just have a lot of experience in playing puzzlescript games.

I'm usually the one that calls people out for incorrectly tagging games as puzzlescript

blame itch
are you using the "add picture" button?

bro

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sometimes game become laggy. it seems to happen when you try to hold open a wall, and seems to presist even after resets

this is not puzzlescript

this is not puzzlescript

just a common idea I guess

 if you really wanted to scare the player with a perceived difficultly spike of having many players, I don't think you succeeded. the level was not chaotic and if a level is simple, it is impossible to make it look difficult without introducing some new thing the player was not previously aware of. You need to have a level soon before this one which demonstrates how your level can be difficult (which as I said, is something ice puzzles naturally struggle with) and then still have at least one or two subsections of the multiplayer level which either replicate that difficulty or appear visually similar to it. alternatively, you could have one of the sections have an obvious linear solution and the rest be in some sense "auto levels" with work with the same solution.

I would recommend  Relica Park, it is one of the best demonstrations of how to create a high quality story paired with high quality puzzle gameplay. even doing like 1% of the things it accomplishes in terms of vib would be very beneficial to any persons game I think.

if you want to learn about ways you can mess with a player's mind, I recommend playing some of theconspiracy's works, my personal favorite is "Side Effect." there's also "... in the blue" which explores some of the limits of what's possible with puzzlescript triggers.

cool!

considering we have minesweeper roguelikes, I guess it would make sense that someone would invent a nonogram roguelike. perhaps one day, the Ven diagram will be complete.

as a puzzle game, I feel this would be better without the full text explaining every mechanic in the game, although I do like the way you did so unconventionally. I think you could probably keep that in if you have all of it be closer to the vibe of "Also, try to avoid from gray spot with a black center.  Once you lose, you can restart level with "R" letter."

In terms of being an ice puzzle variant, I would like you to know that ice puzzles are one of the hardest types of puzzles to make interesting and not trivial. I think your mechanics definitely helped alleviate some of what makes ice puzzles so trivial, that being the lack of movement options that aren't just going back where you came from. And an interesting take to, adding a lock and key system to encourage backtracking. I would suggest adding some keys that are impossible to come back from though, requiring players to read the level and interpret its logic more. The needing to manage multiple players also has the potential to be interesting, it wouldn't be too difficult to attempt making a multiplayer synchronization maze, where there are many holes and only a few paths without holes, but I feel like that's not what you were going for here. nonetheless, I feel some people would appreciate the difficulty, as long as it doesn't gatekeep later levels of the game. 

If you ever decide to add a new mechanic, I would suggest a reusable toggle button. Even if for a different game, I find that they can lead to a massive amount of deductive logic for a comparatively small level of effort.

in positions like this, X should almost never take the top-right space on their next turn (unless O takes center of course), as if they do, O can  force them to take center and almost always have a guaranteed win (the exception being when there is another grid near the top-left of this and near the bottom-right, which is usually avoidable).

oh, you changed it. good.

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I did the exact same thing each time, zero varience

  unbounded points possible for O start. I thought you said this AI got harder 

this is axiom of determinacy in action.

for symmetrical boards, you should have the AI choose randomly among the positions symmetric to those  it would otherwise choose from.

can you please attempt to make an "impossible" difficulty AI? try to make one that never loses within the first two boards.

O can win as soon as X makes a move for the center, as long as O can tie the board. this is mate.

how to win with O against X's hard AI:

does the AI detect and counter potential forks the same way it should when opponent is threatening a 3-in-a-row? because it should, either by immediately threatening a 3-in-a-row of its own or blocking the potential fork. the game below is a case where it fails to see my fork.

winning against hard AI

I like this. I actually made a trio of baba is you levels with a similar idea.

here are the level codes if you're interested (and have the game):

first: 9FEK-7GGV

second: BPJA-XUPZ

third: N8RY-JTB2

The first one is a good tutorial for the basics, the second one I'm not proud of, but lets you experiment with and understand some other key details, and the third one is the most difficult (remember to take into account what it says in the bottom middle for that one).

wait, that's not detected as a failure? it should be. considering how many things make mills, it's defiantly something you need to actively avoid in the endgame. I do this by stockpiling on some taverns, which you can get by harvesting hops.

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surprisingly, I don't think this has been done before

I feel like this lacks an interesting puzzle. no offence, but the last level seems kinda anticlimactic.

it just feels weird that there is just one tutorial level I guess. I wonder if it would be better if the tutorial and the main level were on the same screen? I don't really know what say in these situations, I agree there should be a tutorial somewhere in there to address potential ambiguity of what the win condition is, but at the same time, most things are either a standalone level or part of a set of levels.

perhaps you could just add one line of lore before and after, to increase the sense of compleation.