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From experience in my group Oleander feels a bit like it invalidates the basic Death Head in most cases.

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Death head still is the quintessential sniper mech while oleander is just a single heavy heavy weapon shot

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Who cares you can only shoot 1/round when you can OC loop reload anti-mat rifle without ordnance and ignoring enemy resistances. Stack on Roland chamber, op cal and crack shot and you're essentially able to one shot every standard enemy and even some multiple structure ones. 

Being able to heal yourself once per scene, gain seeking and crit on 18 is just icing on the cake. 

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all mechs have their part to play

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I just got the book. And I am concerned with the Oleander. Do you find after more testing that is it indeed un/balanced? Or is it OK?  "your heavy weapon gain ONE of the following effect"... only one of them, that's not too bad after all... all effects stack only for one shot, so it looks OK to me, on paper at least. 

I have since concluded that campaign and I can say it was a mess. At LL6 Oleander got so busted that it made rest of the party's damage dealers useless by comparison and any multi-structure NPC a joke. When I buffed enemies to stand a chance against it, the other players were not able to keep up instead.

The rest of the book is great though. Since then I just haven't allowed these alt frames in my campaigns, which isn't a big deal considering they are 3d party. And then Shadow of the Wolf released the Tagetes...

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yeah, I had a feeling this frame was in fact OP. So you aren't permitting any of the new frames or variants included in Enhanced Combat? The Bligh looks fun though.

Honestly the other ones seem fine. I haven't had a chance to test them. It was just easier to remove the whole LCP rather than tell players to specifically avoid a certain frame, considering the game is already full of options. 

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got you. thanks for your reply

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I just got the book. And I am concerned with the Oleander. Do you find after more testing that is it indeed un/balanced? Or is it OK?  "your heavy weapon gain ONE of the following effect"... only one of them, that's not too bad after all... all effects stack only for one shot, so it looks OK to me, on paper at least.