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Surely didn't try to offend anyone with that. While I am aware that many theories of Freud have been revised or disproven, those are still present in the minds of many people, thus making them easy to understand for a broader audience. And after 9 month of writing, this is the first time I hear about them being compared to jokes about eugenics, especially since I felt like I didn't touch the most problematic topics of Freud.

However considering how deeply Gina's fictional characters are interwoven into the story by now, changing that would require an incredible amount of time. Maybe we can take them for what they are intended; as Gina's own imagination based on an partly outdated model that she just happens to know? 😅

mirh1 year ago(-2)

*I mean*, it doesn't seem particularly difficult to rewrite them just in the way of good angel, bad angel (stemming from her "conscience", "morality" or even just fancies or personality cores rather than some hot and sour potato).

Then of course you'll have other priorities.. but I just wanted to underline how this representing a good chunk of what folk psychology is, is exactly the problem. Putting aside the indirect effect of making it seems like psychology as a whole is play-pretend unscientific voodoo, those concepts and their friends have helped to legitimize truly deranged shit. No offense taken or meant, but if we just let them finally die in silence we'd be in a better society.

The_Don1 year ago

That was an interesting read, thanks for sharing. Now I'd say lots of "good" things can be perverted in many ways, so not too surprising in the end. Still I would only attribute some of these deranged things to Freud loosely. I'm not too deep in the field, but from my understanding the idea of Freud was to move away from "unscientific voodoo", by analysing and naming core principals of how the mind works, thus founding and advancing the field of psychoanalysis (even if a lot of his stuff turned out to be wrong and represents a very outdated view on sexuality and genders).

Of course the best place to discuss the impact on Freud on the field of psychoanalysis and society in general is the comment section of a pervy FMG game 😂. I'd like too deepen this, but for the sake of absolute clarity, I kinda need those shoulder angels and devils in their respective forms for the coming story to make sense, so this would really be a lot of work rewriting them. And I'm drowning in work already 😑. So guess they'll have to remain as they are for now...

mirh1 year ago

The guy was the unscientific voodoo actually, going from the "simple" mockery of people trying to look into his claims to straightup faking his reports. It's true that back in those days you had even more metaphysical theories of the mind (and any kind of "talk therapy" is better than none I guess?), but he kinda managed to pull the rug from most other legitimate clinical research after captivating the attention of the public opinion with his immediately bold and fancy claims. A wound that still hasn't completely healed today.

Then I'm sure people aren't checking their mental health with a game (and of course we are far from any particular apologism here), but conversely.. this is also how such concepts still linger and persist into folk psychology isn't it?

By all means, I wish all the best to the shoulder angels.

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