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From some of your other posts on here I am thinking you are probably just a troll, but I'll respond anyway for the sake of anyone else reading this in the future. To the overall points anyway; don't care enough to bother with the ad-hominem junk, this ain't about me.

When it comes to nsfw games, as in porn games, generally they're going to put a picture of a girl up front if it's for people attracted to girls, and a picture of a guy up front if it's for people attracted to guys. If they put multiple characters on, then you can sometimes narrow things down further depending on how they are posed; they could be together, or they could be different options. Also, justified or not, the target audience of any sort of porn tends to be men, even if the actual audience is much more varied. The end result is: if you see a male character  on a porn game's title card (and especially if you see two or more male characters together), it's probably gonna be gay, and if you see a female character and in many cases even if you see multiple female characters, it's probably straight, though lesbian is still a possibility, especially on this site. Yes I know the latter half is half of what you are objecting to, please don't hyperfixate on just that.

If we were talking about actually safe for work games, that's a different story. Nothing wrong with lgbt characters showing up, or being in romantic relationships on screen, I fully support that. Plenty of awesome characters out there who happen to be romantically/physically attracted to their own gender as just one of their many character traits. Being openly out there and having representation is outright vital, not just for public support to acknowledge and accept it as normal, but so gay people don't have to deal with random police raids and shit like in the bad old pre-Stonewall-riot days. But we aren't talking about safe for work games, we are currently talking about porn.

In the sort of games being discussed here, the characters are doing a whole lot more than just EXISTING. Doing a lot more than even just kissing each other, too. They are having sex with each other, explicitly, on screen. Often, that is like 90% of the game's content; just the characters having sex. Nothing wrong with that, but depending on the genitals of the characters, not everyone is going to want to see it. In circumstances like these, male-on-male, female-on-female, and yes female-on-male as well, are all basically just fetishes, no different from stuff like bdsm or ntr or vore or poop or whatever. Some people will be into it, a lot of others will be outright grossed out by the sight of it. It is the responsibility of porn makers to properly tag the fetishes within the porn that they are making. And, more relevantly to this overall thread: it is the responsibility of the hosting site to make it so people can actually properly filter using those tags, and itch.io is failing in that responsibility.

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Im not a troll, Im just a queer person who thinks it really isnt that big of a deal to see queer people in games but whatever. or straight people for that matter. Also while I understand that a sexuality isnt a fetish and shouldnt be fetishized???

My main issue is ppl getting upset over sfw lgbtq+ content, guess i didnt realize nsfw was the main focus. Thats a different conversation entirely. I responded the way I did bc the BEGINNING of the thread was VERY homophobic, "The truth is they are super liberal and they don't want people filtering out their 19 different forms of gay tags. They won't say it, but it's true."

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Hmm, alright, a simple miscommunication over what the discussion was about; two sides were arguing over entirely different things without realizing it.

Anyway, I agree that it shouldn't be a big deal when it comes to sfw stuff (it objectively is a big deal, otherwise we wouldn't be having this conversation at all, but it shouldn't be). For nsfw stuff though, it is pretty important.

No idea whether what Jhaerik said above was actually homophobic or not; I can easily see it as another unfortunate misunderstanding. As I discovered earlier, there are at least 8 gay tags... and upon seeing that "yuri" was among them, I have checked and confirmed that there is a "yaoi" tag as well, bringing it up to at least 9. Even without any problem with LGBTQA people or games themselves, that level of redundancy seems a bit excessive... and when there certain noticeably missing tag options, seeing that redundancy concentrated all to one area can be a bit infuriating. Regardless of their motivations though, they did have a good idea about adding a Straight tag. Because again, in certain specific contexts it is important to specify that, and this site lacks (and more infuriatingly, refuses to build) the infrastructure necessary for us to not need to add it for filtering purposes.

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yeah tbh I get that point now. and personally I dislike yuri and yaoi, the'yre meant to be fetishizing of wlw and mlm relationships for straight people of the opposite sex, which I find gross and dehumanizing