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First of all, why are you saying we "arbitrarily" decided to make undocumented immigration illegal? Simply letting in anyone who felt like it in the modern day would most likely ruin the economy, and homeless/unemployed rates would skyrocket as the ratio of people to jobs became even more unbalanced. Having open borders would also be a huge security risk, as many immigrants (especially ones who can't get in legally) come from countries that have more violence/gang violence, crime, and terrorism than other countries. This could easily act as a disguise for the people who would do such things. Another reason is that it would offset the voting/political party balance, which is around 50/50 at the moment I believe. Since democrats want to let them in, when they get in, they would vote democrat, in order to keep the ones in power who are keeping them in the country. In the same way, democrats would vote to keep the immigrants in, which would help keep them in power. I know that's not a problem to you, but if you look at it without either of our political biases, it still offsets the balance and would most likely drastically change America, for better or for worse.

I agree with you about it being immoral of companies to take advantage of them, but again, they sort of brought it upon themselves by immigrating here illegally. We shouldn't have to take in everyone who needs refuge just because we feel bad for them. It's not our place to help everyone in the entire world. Shouldn't their own governments be working to better themselves and help out their own population?

And in response to you aggressively saying I better not have committed any crimes, otherwise  no, I haven't. I'm not even 15 yet. Yeah, go ahead, make fun of me, but it's true. You probably won't believe me, and even if you do, you probably have almost no chance of listening to anything I say, but I'm just putting that out there.


>I'm not even 15 yet.

And that, right there, is why I'm stepping in and asking you both to chill.

Plasma, I say this with all possible compassion as someone who used to work as a game moderator for children and teens: This isn't the place for you and I think you know it.

You have a good head on your shoulders and you're going to be a force to reckon with when you get to adulthood, that's very clear from your posts. I wish I had been as good of a writer when I was 14! But there are things you aren't considering and all of this is very out of proportion for a single mention of ICE in a text game.

I've been following your comments from the beginning -- I get notifications every time there's a new comment on my game's page -- and that's twice now you've brought up that you're a minor, as though that should excuse gaps in your knowledge. It might explain those gaps, but "explain" and "excuse" are two very different things. Your age doesn't mean others are required to go easier on you when they push back on your arguments.

This was a game written by and for adults. Most of the people you'll find discussing it online are also adults. I think on some level you're aware of this, or you wouldn't bring up your age like you do. While I don't want to discourage you from learning more about these issues, the other commenters here also aren't obligated to educate you. You need to find a more appropriate space with people your own age and adults who have the right training and experience to guide you. Maybe that's a classroom and teacher, or a cool librarian, or a forum or youtube channel geared toward students of history or ethics -- there are a lot of resources out there! But I guarantee they'll all have more meaningful takeaways for you than the comments on an itchio thread.

To Helmic: I'm not sure if you were aware of the other thread before this where Plasma mentioned they were a minor, but now that that fact's been established, I hope you'll heed this warning to disengage as well. All told, you were both good at keeping things fairly civil, but like I've told Plasma already, this isn't the right setting for this.

We good here?


Thanks, I've been trying to wrap it up for a while, but I do admit that I was kinda using my age as an excuse the first time, but the second time I was just using it to help back up that I hadn't committed any crimes. Sometimes I just find arguing with people fun, and my original post was a little over aggressive. I'm just glad (almost) everyone was civil when they commented.

Also just realized how many dislikes I got on my comments, not too sure what I expected on this site but I'm surprised that many people even cared what I said