Overall, I think the polish and atmosphere are great, but I keep stumbling into weird little bugs. For instance, I just nabbed a golden whetstone from a star potion, but promptly thereafter my glass bottle decided everything in my inventory was adjacent to one or the other of the two hats I'd shoved into the corners until after I used the whetstone. I've also had gem effects not update properly after mining yet another one with my pick axe and, likewise, books forget they were connected to adjacent mana stones until after I moved them around. These glitches seem to have something to do with the mini-reorganize phase that occurs after an item/curse is created mid-combat.
To put it bluntly - I would call it a new roglaykam at the level of "Binding of Isaac".
I just watched the video the beginning of the video "Neco The Sergal", and only one visual hooked! Gameplay is played cheerfully, at first it's a little unclear, but the game quickly brings you up to speed. I would describe it like this:
- Tetris with elements of roglike and synergies from "Binding of Isaac". Remotely smacks of "Slay the spire", but it's very remote.
I played in V0.13.1 and the game for an ordinary war is balanced, if not perfect, then close to this ideal, but the game for an archer... I'll say this - the mechanics are painfully interesting, but clearly not honed. You have a chance to come out of the first battle victorious... 1/5. But if he breaks through this barrier and swings, in the middle of the game he becomes almost invincible, capable of killing with 2 strikes. Problems can arise only with the last boss (9th floor) due to the fact that he gets buffs and deals colossal damage due to arrows.
I advise you to familiarize yourself with the game, and I will wait for updates and will be happy to buy this product if it comes out in its full form in Steam or anywhere else.
P.s.
Below is a screenshot of my first wound with the victory of the 9th floor boss. I picked up the watch from him.
For developers:
Thank you and let me remind you: Edmund McMillen started with flash games)
And yes, it would not hurt to adapt the game for Android. I started it from the phone browser, it works faster than on a PC, the phone picks up its resolution and the map behind the screen becomes visible, the buttons break, etc. minor problems. (Readme Note 8 Pro, Android 9 PPR1.180610.011, The website was opened itch.io with Opera v68.2.3557.64219)
really solid gameplay on this one actually interesting items and a very cool mechanic with the inventory system theres a lot to this game and ive only played for 30 minutes i would gladly pay 5 or 10 bucks for this with more polish and items good job devs
Great run but something's got to be done about cultist combo on level 16. I understand damage and life scaling but only the most specialized build can get past 17 layers of dodge and 30 poison on turn one. It basically stops any hit based team from being able to keep going. Almost got through it but poisoner having 800 starting hp after getting through layers of dodge was insurmountable. Loving the use of these relics, thought I would go forever with this build and unfortunately didn't find any mana renewal gear. Dodge mechanics are fun! I'd still take hits here and there with three unit mobs but healing items and gems juiced me right back up. Thought I'd make it to depth 20 for sure! Note to the Thejaspel, this game is utterly wonderful. One of the best roguelikes I've ever played. If this keeps getting tuned and new content is implemented, this game might be one for the history books.
Fun game, wish there was a downloadable version so I could retain my save (Playing it on Brave browser), its very tight with security so nothing in terms of browser 'save files' for games ever lasts, unfortunately :(
Love seeing your stream! Our KickStarter will begin tomorrow! Hope you will consider tweeting about it or doing another stream! It could make a huge difference!
Ok, I have just tested it, if you want to avoid the save glitch, where your inventory gets permanently distorted even if it was ok when you saved it you need to first save when there are no floating items/open menus/map/etc open and just in your inventory menu, make shure to close all of the menus before saving. Also when loading the game remove your mouse from screen the moment you click continue. All of these dont guarantee that it wont occur but it reduces the chances a lot. It still happens sparcely even if you dont do any of this but if you save/load often or dont want to take chances to loose your run these should help. I have just saved/loaded 50 times and it only happened 2 times by the end and it wasnt permanent.
I did a run with the pickaxe, I was lazy to take a screenshot, but it was funny, more gems than you could ever imagine. I got past the final boss too. :)
The actual reason I didn't post was because I discarded a good gem by mistake, a pearl, and I didn't want to show off my blunder, ahaha. But yeah it was doable, no problem. You need a level or so to stack up gems while using the pickaxe only for deathblows, then you can use it as your main weapon and wreck havoc.
Yeah it checks out I got the pickaxe early and just destroyed I don't even really need a shield on floor 11 with 4 lifesteal gems and 4 healing gems with about 100 damage per energy
I got another slime sword build!!!!!! This is kinda a lie... I got the slime sword on the last floor but I had bomb the entire run. It is the funnest relic
WITH ONLY A SLIVER OF HEALTH LEFT i have finally beaten the final boss ..... (atleast the FIRST final boss from what i see in the comments below) this is my first (and likely only) time ever actually beating the creature and only second time reaching them out of .... who knows how many runs...... i would like to apologize to the two luck rings that gave me this chance and mathew for finally giving me something decent to start with. fun game. real fun. just more difficult than a souls game if you don't got gud luck
Beating the final boss aka floor 9 is not too hard if you go for the right build, key sword is not a good build btw. If you get whetstone try getting all the shivs, put it in the corner and line both below and to the side with shivs, spend your energy on stone and see big numbers go brrr. Easy build since all ingridients are obtainable. Its the more obscure and shenanigan dependant runs that are hard to get but let you go deep into infinity runs))
my biggest problem i've faced with the game has simply been my luck with finding items. the build sounds fun and possible .... if i actually got even some of the more useful common items on a regular basis. in that run alone i saw only the lucky shiv, one cursed shiv, and two normal shivs with one of them popping up in a late run shop.
(should add : this isnt a problem with the game. [it's a rouge like. i expect this] i just have horrid luck for getting even the basics of items when it comes to RNG sometimes. and i am VERY excited for what the devs behind it end up making with it in the future.)
I'm soooooooo tired of clicking. But its a delight to hit every enemy on the field for 500+ damage. Maybe a toggle option to just "use all" for the magic accessories?
There is a bug involving the music script that occurs right after a battle in the Magma Core area. Once I win a fight, the music that plays is from the previous area, the Deep Caves.
This incorrect track plays until I reach the next floor and then the issue fixes itself until I get into another encounter. This problem was in the game since the new music was first added into the area and has still yet to be patched.
Had I known sooner that this was not acknowledged by the devteam, I would have reported the bug immediately. When the bug first occured, I thought it was so evident that someone else would have picked up on it and reported that by now, either here, through Discord or via private communication of some sort, but guess I was wrong.
Other than that, I am enjoying the new items, there are some pretty good ideas here and there.
We really need a load game fix, or the ability to choose save files. Why tf does it keep on resetting me to a run from 17 runs ago? I saved at least 400 times after that and none of them work.
We need a fix. If you need additional developers, I can help out if I can contact you somehow.
no offense but i'm pretty doubtful that you would know how to fix an issue like that, plus the owner's contact info is literally in the credits like what
I've been developing with Unity for over five years, if that's any convincing. I'm not saying more, since why would I to some random game player? Twitter is not an option, noone reads twitter DMs.
Sorry to hear about the saves. You can join our discord if you want to report further. Saves work for many players but this bug report is common too. You might want to try a different browser. I believe the issue relates to saving data in browser. When we move to local builds it should be fixed.
Well that is a new one, loaded the game several times and this happened, there was a similar bug before but I didnt see moving purple clouds before :3 Also the save is completely corrupted, rip run I was restarting the first 2 floors 10 times by now to get ethereal sword staff before first boss :<
When the purple cloud bug happened to me it was to do with the items that involve mana. Simply click them and place them back and the clouds stop. Although, you've clearly got more problems than that.
Made it to 45 before things got too repetitive. The only weakness to rage cleaver strategy is spikes, but that can be mitigated with healing gems and the candlestick.
I reached 111 with the assasin's knife which adds 1 dmg per kill, and energy bonuses with shield talisman to get past the 2 energy requirement. Used rings & haste forges to get bunch of armor while using my weapons to kill everyone, and lots of golden whetstones & energy generation using no item in 2 spaces talismans
bro plz keep working on this most games seem boring to me so half of my time im bored or trying to entertain myself but when i play ur game i have so much fun next thing i know its dark outside lol i love the challenge,adventure,strategy plz dont stop updating the game 🥲
New Speedy Leaf is OP. its a consumable and has the tag "when combat ends this item is destroyed" plop it between a Seasoning and Spice and heal completely for free and then deal 400 damage from PURE RAGE
I managed to get to floor 111 before this level with shield haste 3, rage 2 sword that adds 1 per kill, lucky golden things per level, etc, until the update wiped it, sad.
Adjacency calculations are also broken: bronze breastplate diagonal not working.
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oh dear, finally died becuase an enemy added 17 doge to all enemies
Speedy leaf when combined with seasoning can give you unlimited healing in a combat, perhaps this should be addressed?
The same thing for me too.
it won't let me place the curse, I can't move it, I can only take damage
This red thing you show is not a curse, it is an accessory.
I think the curse is right beneath the energy token. I will work to fix this error!
the curse is behind that, and it happened to me again, it's unfair
This game is just beautiful!
Overall, I think the polish and atmosphere are great, but I keep stumbling into weird little bugs. For instance, I just nabbed a golden whetstone from a star potion, but promptly thereafter my glass bottle decided everything in my inventory was adjacent to one or the other of the two hats I'd shoved into the corners until after I used the whetstone. I've also had gem effects not update properly after mining yet another one with my pick axe and, likewise, books forget they were connected to adjacent mana stones until after I moved them around. These glitches seem to have something to do with the mini-reorganize phase that occurs after an item/curse is created mid-combat.
To put it bluntly - I would call it a new roglaykam at the level of "Binding of Isaac".
I just watched the video the beginning of the video "Neco The Sergal", and only one visual hooked! Gameplay is played cheerfully, at first it's a little unclear, but the game quickly brings you up to speed. I would describe it like this:
- Tetris with elements of roglike and synergies from "Binding of Isaac". Remotely smacks of "Slay the spire", but it's very remote.
I played in V0.13.1 and the game for an ordinary war is balanced, if not perfect, then close to this ideal, but the game for an archer... I'll say this - the mechanics are painfully interesting, but clearly not honed. You have a chance to come out of the first battle victorious... 1/5. But if he breaks through this barrier and swings, in the middle of the game he becomes almost invincible, capable of killing with 2 strikes. Problems can arise only with the last boss (9th floor) due to the fact that he gets buffs and deals colossal damage due to arrows.
I advise you to familiarize yourself with the game, and I will wait for updates and will be happy to buy this product if it comes out in its full form in Steam or anywhere else.
P.s.
Below is a screenshot of my first wound with the victory of the 9th floor boss. I picked up the watch from him.
For developers:
Thank you and let me remind you: Edmund McMillen started with flash games)
And yes, it would not hurt to adapt the game for Android. I started it from the phone browser, it works faster than on a PC, the phone picks up its resolution and the map behind the screen becomes visible, the buttons break, etc. minor problems. (Readme Note 8 Pro, Android 9 PPR1.180610.011, The website was opened itch.io with Opera v68.2.3557.64219)
I'm sorry to ask you to work more! >_<https://discord.gg/7pttXB4p
thanks pa4iko
Solid build :)
What is your max floor guys
really solid gameplay on this one actually interesting items and a very cool mechanic with the inventory system theres a lot to this game and ive only played for 30 minutes i would gladly pay 5 or 10 bucks for this with more polish and items good job devs
They have a kickstarter since today. It’s 12 dollars to have the full game.
Great run but something's got to be done about cultist combo on level 16. I understand damage and life scaling but only the most specialized build can get past 17 layers of dodge and 30 poison on turn one. It basically stops any hit based team from being able to keep going. Almost got through it but poisoner having 800 starting hp after getting through layers of dodge was insurmountable. Loving the use of these relics, thought I would go forever with this build and unfortunately didn't find any mana renewal gear. Dodge mechanics are fun! I'd still take hits here and there with three unit mobs but healing items and gems juiced me right back up. Thought I'd make it to depth 20 for sure! Note to the Thejaspel, this game is utterly wonderful. One of the best roguelikes I've ever played. If this keeps getting tuned and new content is implemented, this game might be one for the history books.
Fun game, wish there was a downloadable version so I could retain my save (Playing it on Brave browser), its very tight with security so nothing in terms of browser 'save files' for games ever lasts, unfortunately :(
a download version is coming!
:3 Excellent.
Love seeing your stream! Our KickStarter will begin tomorrow! Hope you will consider tweeting about it or doing another stream! It could make a huge difference!
This is probably the best game on itch.
Cursed shiv + Cursed sword is kinda nuts if you've got the space for it.
First build that ever let me beat the final boss with!!
Nice one. I also create “half wizard half warrior” builds. Strong and easy to modify.
Bug report: Dodge Mask gives me dodge only first turn
that's the intended effect. It's once per combat only
Early Pickaxe from glitched potion is really good I do about 100 Damage per energy.
Ok, I have just tested it, if you want to avoid the save glitch, where your inventory gets permanently distorted even if it was ok when you saved it you need to first save when there are no floating items/open menus/map/etc open and just in your inventory menu, make shure to close all of the menus before saving. Also when loading the game remove your mouse from screen the moment you click continue. All of these dont guarantee that it wont occur but it reduces the chances a lot. It still happens sparcely even if you dont do any of this but if you save/load often or dont want to take chances to loose your run these should help. I have just saved/loaded 50 times and it only happened 2 times by the end and it wasnt permanent.
I did a run with the pickaxe, I was lazy to take a screenshot, but it was funny, more gems than you could ever imagine. I got past the final boss too. :)
COOL!!!! I've been wanting to get a pickaxe run for while!!!
The actual reason I didn't post was because I discarded a good gem by mistake, a pearl, and I didn't want to show off my blunder, ahaha. But yeah it was doable, no problem. You need a level or so to stack up gems while using the pickaxe only for deathblows, then you can use it as your main weapon and wreck havoc.
Yeah it checks out I got the pickaxe early and just destroyed I don't even really need a shield on floor 11 with 4 lifesteal gems and 4 healing gems with about 100 damage per energy
I got another slime sword build!!!!!! This is kinda a lie... I got the slime sword on the last floor but I had bomb the entire run. It is the funnest relic
Yes! Another success against the final boss!
Very addictive! The rat is adorable :3
WITH ONLY A SLIVER OF HEALTH LEFT i have finally beaten the final boss ..... (atleast the FIRST final boss from what i see in the comments below) this is my first (and likely only) time ever actually beating the creature and only second time reaching them out of .... who knows how many runs...... i would like to apologize to the two luck rings that gave me this chance and mathew for finally giving me something decent to start with. fun game. real fun. just more difficult than a souls game if you don't got gud luck
quick mini update : tried endless and only managed to get to level 12. with the boss's summons taking me out right after removing the boss.
Beating the final boss aka floor 9 is not too hard if you go for the right build, key sword is not a good build btw. If you get whetstone try getting all the shivs, put it in the corner and line both below and to the side with shivs, spend your energy on stone and see big numbers go brrr. Easy build since all ingridients are obtainable. Its the more obscure and shenanigan dependant runs that are hard to get but let you go deep into infinity runs))
my biggest problem i've faced with the game has simply been my luck with finding items. the build sounds fun and possible .... if i actually got even some of the more useful common items on a regular basis. in that run alone i saw only the lucky shiv, one cursed shiv, and two normal shivs with one of them popping up in a late run shop.
(should add : this isnt a problem with the game. [it's a rouge like. i expect this] i just have horrid luck for getting even the basics of items when it comes to RNG sometimes. and i am VERY excited for what the devs behind it end up making with it in the future.)
Do i need to keep/use a lot of luck things
I'm soooooooo tired of clicking. But its a delight to hit every enemy on the field for 500+ damage. Maybe a toggle option to just "use all" for the magic accessories?
Just one tap and it adds 33damage to everything
How about a cleaver run? 😎😎😎
There is a bug involving the music script that occurs right after a battle in the Magma Core area. Once I win a fight, the music that plays is from the previous area, the Deep Caves.
This incorrect track plays until I reach the next floor and then the issue fixes itself until I get into another encounter. This problem was in the game since the new music was first added into the area and has still yet to be patched.
Had I known sooner that this was not acknowledged by the devteam, I would have reported the bug immediately. When the bug first occured, I thought it was so evident that someone else would have picked up on it and reported that by now, either here, through Discord or via private communication of some sort, but guess I was wrong.
Other than that, I am enjoying the new items, there are some pretty good ideas here and there.
Good catch! I'll investigate
One of the best game I've ever played!
Agreed
We really need a load game fix, or the ability to choose save files. Why tf does it keep on resetting me to a run from 17 runs ago? I saved at least 400 times after that and none of them work.
We need a fix. If you need additional developers, I can help out if I can contact you somehow.
no offense but i'm pretty doubtful that you would know how to fix an issue like that, plus the owner's contact info is literally in the credits like what
the owner seems experienced enough so you should probably let them take their time with it
I've been developing with Unity for over five years, if that's any convincing. I'm not saying more, since why would I to some random game player? Twitter is not an option, noone reads twitter DMs.
the words of a man who didn't even click the second link
also fair enough
You want to contact them on twitter or itch? Go for it. They aren't in the discord either.
Sorry to hear about the saves. You can join our discord if you want to report further. Saves work for many players but this bug report is common too. You might want to try a different browser. I believe the issue relates to saving data in browser. When we move to local builds it should be fixed.
Well that is a new one, loaded the game several times and this happened, there was a similar bug before but I didnt see moving purple clouds before :3 Also the save is completely corrupted, rip run I was restarting the first 2 floors 10 times by now to get ethereal sword staff before first boss :<
I'm sorry :(
When the purple cloud bug happened to me it was to do with the items that involve mana. Simply click them and place them back and the clouds stop. Although, you've clearly got more problems than that.
Made it to 45 before things got too repetitive. The only weakness to rage cleaver strategy is spikes, but that can be mitigated with healing gems and the candlestick.
No golden whetstones in this run!
I'll see if I can get anything close to my god-tier build back :) Hard to do when they completely broke save loading.
What's the record for endless mode?
I reached 111 with the assasin's knife which adds 1 dmg per kill, and energy bonuses with shield talisman to get past the 2 energy requirement. Used rings & haste forges to get bunch of armor while using my weapons to kill everyone, and lots of golden whetstones & energy generation using no item in 2 spaces talismans
The boss has 32,300 HP and I have only 110? I think this game needs some balancing.
bro plz keep working on this most games seem boring to me so half of my time im bored or trying to entertain myself but when i play ur game i have so much fun next thing i know its dark outside lol i love the challenge,adventure,strategy plz dont stop updating the game 🥲
We are continuing work! We just did an update today! Hope you'll support the KickStarter when it launches soon!
i will trust me😄👍. question is there crafting in here if not do u mind if i give u an idea of a crafting system?
This game is about to ruin my marriage. I can't stop playing.
I'll take that as a compliment! Now go be a good partner! :) Backpack Hero will only get better after more updates. :P
Oh, it was a compliment! Thank god I finally beat the boss, so I can be a good boy now and only play for fun instead of obsessively.
Glad I got one of the fun burst mage builds before the update. I just kept going for awhile, killing all enemies first turn lol.
haven't played the update yet, but since relics no longer have a rarity, what do they sell for?
New Speedy Leaf is OP. its a consumable and has the tag "when combat ends this item is destroyed"
plop it between a Seasoning and Spice and heal completely for free and then deal 400 damage from PURE RAGE
only works for one combat but still......stronk
The mole card lottery is broken, when you turn cards you cant see the item
Sorry! Today's update should have fixed it! Please try again!
Memory card ? event is also broken
Sorry! Today's update should have fixed it! Please try again!
I managed to get to floor 111 before this level with shield haste 3, rage 2 sword that adds 1 per kill, lucky golden things per level, etc, until the update wiped it, sad.
Adjacency calculations are also broken: bronze breastplate diagonal not working.