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You may find it very worthwhile to do a rebirth, which is like a new game+ where you get to keep your level and all items that you have in the bank. To do a rebirth Lona must give birth to a human, moot or deepone baby. If you did it right you get the option to be reborn as whatever baby you had when Lona dies. Once reborn everything except the above mentioned will be reset as if you started a new game, including your loan status with the backstreet merchant if you happen to have one which, if you're gonna rebirth anyway, why wouldn't you?

To save yourself some time and eliminate all the guesswork I recommend getting a combined total of 10 stacks of either "Horny (drugged)" or "Womb Seedbed" as each of these will increase preg_rate by .1 for a guaranteed pregnancy at 10 stacks. You can get 10 stacks of "Horny (drugged)" from drinking 5 "Joy Water" which you can buy using a loan or selling your ID (you're going to get a new one anyway), but they can be stolen from from FishtopiaR as well. If you're somehow in possession of "Witch Juice" drinking 1 of those will work as well, just make sure to strip all equipment before drinking it or Lona will do it after and you won't be able to pick them up again.

There is no feedback until later stages of pregnancy, so you must either sleep until that happens or simply assume pregnancy after sleeping once with any amount of semen in the womb if you have 10 stacks.

If you want to be certain of things go to Elise, he can tell whether Lona is pregnant and you can find out what kind of baby it is by aborting it. This will kill the baby but you can reload your save just before you do it.

annuilein3 years ago (3 edits)

If you are going for deepone you can not have any womb seedbed stacks or you will get fishman also wombseedbed reduces the chances of conceiving the rebirthable races to 1/5th but speeds up the pregnancy. You can also get seedbed after getting pregnant with red mushrooms, Also your hunger will be 5points lower the next day if you did get pregnant so always fill up hunger before switching to next day.

so without hichhiker and not being nympho your hunger the next day should be 65 if pregnant 70 if not assuminig 100 hunger points.
55 if nympho 70 nympho+hitch hiker and with just hitchhiker 80 is your pregnancy hunger levels.

using hunger levels you can figure out you are pregnant 4-7 days earlier than if you use the resting+wait for vomit method, and if you want to just get to a NG+ as fast as possible go for a moot baby it takes less time if you aren't in a rush try for a deepone.

bj1i58fiuob13 years ago

Where did you get that from? I could not find anything about that in the game files. The only thing that affects the baby's race is the father's race and lona's race. To be sure I've done some testing and I was even able to get a deepone baby three times in a row, so it doesn't look like this is the case. However, thanks to this I found out that the amount of semen also affects pregnancy chance. So to truly guarantee pregnancy Lona's hole must be filled to the brim before going to sleep.

By the way Womb Seedbed only affects new pregnancies, changing the amount of stacks won't speed up or slow down lona's current pregnancy. And lastly, the deduction in food is affected not only by pregnancy but also by difficulty, personality, parasites, bowel/bladder seedbed and breastfeeding if I didn't miss anything. None of these involve randomness so if you know all the values then you can even derive the stage of pregnancy from the deduction in food, but to me OP looks like a new player so it's probably better for him to just go to Elise for now

annuilein3 years ago (1 edit)

when i did the testing for deep one i noted that whenever i had seedbed it would become fishman instead if i managed to get it without seedbed it became a deepone instead, also thank you for the heads up about the seedbed stacks not applying post pregnancy and as for difficulty i play on hell which is where i derived my hunger values from

bj1i58fiuob13 years ago

Lona gains 1 stack of Womb Seedbed whenever she gives birth to any monster baby, so I get the association but it just so happens to be the other way around. To get a deepone baby the best you can do besides throwing some coins in a well for good luck is to get an abortion at Elise until you get a deepone and then reload your save.

annuilein3 years ago (1 edit)

you can also get wombseedbed stacks at random on a pregnancy check if you get a stack it isn't considered having gotten pregnant you can infact grind all the way to 10 stacks without actually getting pregnant but it requires a decent amount of luck and the stacks won't build if you become pregnant not that 10 stacks is very fun on hell mode with lactation incontinence happening every time you hit red 5 or red 10 on the bar pretty much causing you to force lactate upwards of 5 times per day going around the map so its not really worth it also womb seedbed applies a x0.2 modifier to human/moot/deepone pregnancy chance and a x2 modifier to monster pregnancy chances

bj1i58fiuob13 years ago (1 edit)

Wanted to add that another way of getting the above mentioned states is by eating semen, which can be acquired by selecting "clean privates" from the basic needs menu. It's random like mutated mushrooms and different for each kind of semen but fishkind semen has a pretty good chance of giving "Horny (drugged)".

bj1i58fiuob13 years ago

And witch juice gives 5 stacks not 10

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