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OH. MY. GOD

OH. MY. GOD

okay. okay. let me try to collect my thoughts. okay. okay. take a deep breathe, floralska. get it together.

before i get into my spoiler review: to anybody whose reading this right now stop what you're doing and go download the game. treat it like you did with undertale: absolutely do not read anything about it, don't go on tumblr, twitter, youtube, and especially don't scroll further down this comment section since you will be spoiled. just download it right now and PLAY. THIS. GAME. 

EVEN IF YOU AREN'T A FANGIRL/FANBOY OF SANS OR EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ROMANTIC INTEREST IN HIM AT ALL PLAY. THE GAME. ANYWAY. TRUST ME. YOU WILL NOT REGRET IT.

PLAY THIS GAME. IT IS AMAZING, HEARTWARMING, WILL MAKE YOU LAUGH AND CRY, WILL MAKE YOU FEEL NOSTALGIC, WILL GIVE YOU ALL THE BEST FEELS, AND ITS JUST SO PERFECT. 10/10. PLEASE PLAY IT!!!

okay now that's out of the way... onto the spoiler-specific review... (that is also long as hell btw, i do apologize in advance)









!!SPOILERS AHEAD!! PLEASE PLAY THE GAME BEFORE LOOKING AT THIS!!!

okay. holy fucking shit. this game. what the fuck.

this morning, i was just scrolling through the sans undertale tag on twitter and then i find this GORGEOUS artwork of sans for this sans dating game.

now, i think i've seen a pretty fair amount of sans dating games before but i've never actually tried them. from my understanding, they've all been really good quality, as most ut fangames are but like i said never tried them before.

but this artwork it's just so gorgeous and there's a link to the game underneath it and the game is free. so i'm like "yeah why not, got nothing else better to do, let me procrastinate doing school work and see what this game is all about."

holy. fucking hell.

i mean like. the quality of it. right off the bat we get the ut intro and im already like awwwwww look at the artwork. it's so cute! and frisk and asgore πŸ₯ΊπŸ₯ΊπŸ₯ΊπŸ₯Ί the callbacks r great. i really like how reminiscent of undertale it is? i mean like- yeah DUH it's going to be reminiscent of undertale bc its literally a fangame for it but sometimes certain fangames just don't really get the... vibe of undertale you know? but this one does and we're not even in the game yet

then we get to name the human! and by that point, i was really happy bc yes holy shit a sans dating game where we are NOT frisk!!! so nice for a change

we go to the ruins, we see our bff flowey. the way that we got to interact with the game was so cool as well! like the choices were presented with dialogue but it was so cool seeing the animations of our actions play out on the screen, like watching our soul dodge the pellets.

i like how we're introduced to sans right away. i was so hype when i saw him (and tbh was super hype throughout the rest of the game anyway). right away i could tell the writing in this game was going to be great bc of the way you wrote sans!!!

and let me tell you- that is not an easy feat. i've seen a lot of ut fan content where sans just... doesn't seem right u know? like it is very, very hard to write his character and get his dialogue right. especially when you're putting HIM into a romantic-centric game??? i'll put more on sans later, but again. right from his introduction, i could already tell you're one of those writers who understand him and will do his justice.

so we go to tori's house and her reading the story to us was very sweet πŸ₯Ί her eyes blinked too and i thought that was super cool. u guys put so much thought into all of this- with the sprites and animations and everything it's just.. so awesome.

and then papyrus showed up!! and he was adorable. my dumbass got stuck on the puzzle bc i wasnt paying that much attention but i figured it out eventually πŸ˜­ then we got to the crosswords and sans again!! he takes us to grillby and all the interactions he has with the people at the bar... i was like yes thats my man look how popular he is 😎😎

the interactions we have with him- they r little and subtle enough that it helps it all feel so natural. it feels like falling in love with someone who, even though you've never met before, you knew right away that you would love them with all your heart. the little moments r just so tender and sweet.

i think eventually we do meet undyne and alphys, then sans takes us to see his telescope, and then we go to the mtt restaurant to go do his stand up.

bruh. this man. when he was talking about how good he was in bed and LOOKED AT US i literally screamed. i had to walk around my room. THIS MAN. 

then we get to the table scene and I WAS LITERALLY SO HYPE so i just straight up told him that i loved him

WHEN HE BLUSHED LET ME TELL U I FCKING DIED SJSJSJJS

but then the game ends and floweys there so im like ah shit. here we go again. 

2ND ROUTE 

so i played through the 2nd route? (im not sure what its called)

it was obviously different from the first bc uhhh WE GOT A KNIFE. AND NOW THERES A OPTION TO FIGHT?? 

so this was the part where i figured there'd be a geno route and holy hell that is so fucking cool???? WHAT UNDERTALE SANS DATING VISUAL NOVEL INCORPORATES ALL THE ELEMENTS AND THEMES OF UNDERTALE IN IT???? LIKE WHAT THE FUCK THAT IS SO BADASS!!!

the dream was interesting too. obviously i know that it represents us doing genocide, but was there any other meaning to it? in the dream it was like at first we were scared, then there was a brief moment of clarity where we felt cool, then we felt scared again and there was the smell of blood, floweys laugh, and then we woke up. i wonder why it was in that specific order. hmm...

but right now im like okay im not here to kill anybody, i'm just trying to see whats new and try and get more closer to the characters cause in the last route i didn't really get the chance. the characters all notice that we're bored and it looks like we've done this before which, again, so fucking badass.

the bridge scene was amazing- i loved how sans caught us and how we just layed in the snow and oh my goodddd when i saw that close up i fucking died and went to heaven. omg. 

the soul scenes too were amazing. i like how we could pick which ones we thought represented us. i chose bravery. also- the soulmates concepts? that is so fcking cool. honestly it's like so clever and presented so well that it feels canon to the actual game.

this whole route felt a lot more personal than the 1st one. we spend a lot more time with sans and all it feels very deja vu which he comments on a lot. it felt like our bond and connection was already there and that we could feel it both. i loved that. even with the other characters too!!! we got to spend so much more time with them and it felt like we were actually forming bonds- i was falling in love with them all too just in a platonic sense. i guess i was soulmates with them too.

then finally, i got to the table scene, SANS REJECTS ME AGAIN, and im like no what the fuck that cant be it. like surely it cant.

so when we're about to go home, THE FCKING FLOWER SHOWS UP WITH SANS AND HE FCKING KILLS US AND THE GAME CRASHES???? THAT IS SO FUCKING COOL. I WAS LITERALLY IN SHOCK- I KID YOU NOT. 

but oh my god. the hopes and dreams scene.

THE HOPES AND DREAMS SCENE. HOLY FUCK. MY HEART. I WAS SCREAMING.

IT WAS SO FCKING COOL. THE WAY OUR SOULS DANCED TOGETHER. MY GOD. THE WAY WE REACHED OUT TO HIM AND CALLED FOR HIM. HOYL FCUCCKKCK SJFBDBJ. oh my god.

and then at the end where there was nothing and he whispered that code to us- THE GAME CLOSES AGAIN. AND IM LIKE WHAT THE FUCK. AND THEN FLOWEY IS THERE.

ah shit. here we go again.

3RD ROUTE

okay for this one- i think i got confused. i think i ended up actually playing the secret ending where you go on a date with papyrus and give him a smooch at the end? i think thats probably bc i told him i wanted to go on a date instead of doing that battle on the bridge lol. but it was still fun! i considered our kiss at the end like a little platonic kiss and i liked how papyrus felt a connection with us. i did too! it wasn't a  romantic one, maybe not even platonic, but it was love- just like papyrus said there was a connection we shared and i loved that. it was just love, pure and simple. i really appreciated that too. then flowey shows up again, we chat, and then he makes his little sassy remarks as usual and then i'm back to the main screen. so now im like huh. well this obviously wasn't the true ending. so i probably needed to fall off the bridge again...

TRUE LOVE ROUTE

okay i think this is called the true love route??

but basically to get it, you have to ask papyrus to continue on with the bridge fight instead of going on a date with him, sans will catch you again when you fall, etc and then once you're alone with him at the restaurant you'll get the chance to tell him the code

and of course, it's i'm the ultimate fartlord. or it was smth like that. but yeah. of course it is.

at first, i was laughing so hard bc of it but then i started to panic bc i was like wait. shit. did he really just prank us with that? like was this whole thing a prank to him? 

but then no. he takes us to the judgement hall.

and holy fuck. i was SQUEALING. THIS WAS THE BEST FCKING SCENE EVER. OH MY GOD.

when we kissed πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­ when he admitted he wanted to be our soulmates too!!!! 😭😭😭😭😭 WHEN HE STARTED CRYING πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­

that whole scene of us just being there, kissing, and him confessing how much he cares about us.. my god. it was so perfect.

i loved the line where it was like we were "daring the resets to tear us apart" BC THEY COULDNT EVEN STOP OUR LOVE FOR EACH OTHER πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­

and then maybe the best moment. when he said our name.

up until then, i don't think anybody had said our name in the game. but when i said "ily" and he replied with "take care of yourself ()" I WAS FUCKING DEAD. LIKE LITERALLY. I CRIED. I SCREAMED. I DID EVERYTHING. WHAT THE FUCK. 

i admit, i wish he had said i love you back but i think that was his way of saying i love you. 

then the credits showed up. that was fucking incredible. it was so cute. i skipped a little bit ahead and then we got the scene where we laid down with him underneath the stars.

AND WHEN HE MADE THE WISH FOR US TO BE SOULMATES AND HE WAS LIKE "OH IT ALREADY CAME TRUE DIDN'T IT???" OH MY GOD πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­

and then there was just us in the cave and the stars. then "the end" showed up instead of flowey and there was a quit option. holy fuck. so many emotions.

for one, holy shit i did it. sans is finally happy and i got the true(at least i think it is) ending. 

but everything else. oh my god. sans loves me πŸ˜­ i love sans. this reminded me why sans is my favorite character of all time. you've shown me why i'm still so in love with him since 2015 πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­ why i still love this game and these characters. they're home. and this also felt like home too.

this was... fucking amazing. ik i'm probably bugging you with this long-ass review and for that i do sincerely apologize but i felt like writing one this long was the least that i could do for such an amazing game like this. the fact that it was free too?? and so much time and effort and love and care went into it??

it was just. so amazing. i know i'm repetetive but my god. so amazing πŸ˜­ i love you and i love sans and i just loved it. i really did. thank you so much. that was fantastic. 

Now I guess the only route left would be the Genocide Route??? Which I might try even tho I kind of don't want to spoil our happy ending 😭😭😭 it's like the same thing with Undertale- of course I don't want to ruin our happy life but at the same time I wanna see what will happen... πŸ˜” but anyway, I will most likely write another review about the Genocide route when I do it!!!

Again, so sorry for such a long review. But what you have made was really remarkable and just so amazing and incredible. Thank you so much. I really, truly did enjoy it. Thank you β€οΈβ€οΈβ€οΈ.

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Thank you sooooo much for taking the time to write your thoughts on the VN!!  ;n;  Please don't apologize for writing a long comment!  It always makes me absolutely thrilled to get these kinds of comments!  I read every word you wrote and I can't tell you how much I appreciate it!

I'm really glad you loved the illustration I commissioned from my friend, Mmishee!  I saw examples of their work and knew right away I wanted them to draw a poster for the game!

And I'm glad you liked the artwork in the intro!  That I drew myself!  Though I struggled a bit, I really wanted to do all the in-game illustrations and sprites myself!  :)  And I'm glad you liked all the cool little coding things I put in the game, too! 


!!! SPOILERS

I'm so glad that you thought that Sans was written well.  I really strived to make him as close to the funny skeleton we all know and love (with a SOULmate twist, of course!)  But of course,  I had to add a little flirty flair via the MTT Resort comedy routine.  ;)  And I'm glad you thought I re-created the vibe of Undertale!  I really wanted to re-create that feeling of the Underground as best as I could!

It seems that you found the secret route by resetting the second time!  And that's a really cute way to interpret that route with Papyrus!  I wanted to make sure the other skelebro got some love, too!

I did want to mention, however, after the Hopes and Dreams segment when you load up the game again and Flowey talks about giving you a SAVE file... he actually does do that.  It's the SAVE file called "Sans Reservations."  And that would've taken you directly to the end of the True Love route and to the part of MTT Resort where you can tell him the secret codeword.  :D  You eventually found it, you just took a little detour!  And there's nothing wrong with that, either!  It means you got to spend time with Papyrus more, too!

That scene in the judgment hall was probably the first scene I wrote and the first scene I imagined when I was in the writing process of Dating Start!  I wanted it to feel like a release of all the emotions that have been building up to that point.  And the "daring the resets to try and tear you apart" was one of my favorite lines to write.  :)

Good luck if you to the True LOVE/No Love (Genocide) route!  I don't want to say any more about it.  You understand, I'm sure.  =)

Thank you again for writing your thoughts on the VN and for playing it!  I'm glad it warmed your heart with love.

Stay determined,

Cho πŸ’œ

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!!! SPOILERS (again)





I just realized I never answered your question about the player's dream!  There's a reason for the order.


1.) First scare - the fear of getting hurt (emotionally)

2.) Plunging into water, clarity in the snow and rain- pushing past the fear, plunging into love and being comforted by it

3.) Second scare - turning your back on the comfort and love and taking a more violent path


Just like Undertale, I expect most players to experience Dating Start! in that order.  Act One (Common Route) --> True Love --> No Love (if they so choose)

So the dream, though only detailing vague images and feelings, will foretell the same.  :)