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are you referring to the lexy ending? i can't think of anything else offhand that sort of matches what you're saying.

i saw that as a roughly equivalent response — something bothersome and moderately inconvenient that you don't immediately know how to get rid of. what about it elevates it to the level of abuse for you? do you see krypto's treatment of cerise the same way?

it's nowhere near permanent; it's just a button. lexy and i are both assuming that krypto is clever enough to figure a way out of their predicament. i mean, at the simplest, all they need to do is ask someone else for help.

but i don't quite understand why you'd bring the dev commentary up here, anyway; that was very explicitly about kink feelings. i didn't say characters can or should never change at all. everyone is always changing in little permanent ways all the time.

cityofexilius3 years ago (2 edits) (+1)

what about it elevates it to the level of abuse for you?

i took it to be abusive and torturous based off of how lexy sadistically describes how krypto wouldn't be able to do anything about the button because the first time they try to take it off they'll be so terrified of the pink paint lexy put on the bottom that they won't be able to bring themself take it off and will be too scared of the paint being revealed to ask anyone else to help him. and that made me really uncomfortable ahahaha i spent the rest of the day i first played it having intrusive thoughts about it because it was so horrible and repugnant to me, i think its really cruel for no reason. no other way of dealing with krypto involves something that would realistically scar someone for at least the rest of their teenage years. the meanest one (excluding erasing him from existence) is just bullying them verbally until they leave. its a weird extremely sharp escalation of a problem that realistically could have been easily solved day 1 or 2 by just letting them disassemble the vibrator they wanted for the servo in it at the desk.

eevee3 years ago(+2)

i've been mulling this over on and off the last few days

i didn't picture it the way you do when i wrote it — but if that's how you read it, then that's how you read it, and it would be poor form for me as an author to tell you how you're "supposed" to read it.

it kind of seems like i touched a sore spot, something that happened to you that feels similar? or maybe i'm way off base there. regardless, i'm sorry to have caused such a visceral reaction in what was supposed to be a fairly lighthearted game.

eevee3 years ago(+2)

also glip asked me to post this:

hi, i asked eevee to pass this message along for me, but i am glip and i specifically had wanted to include the ending where krypto is erased from existence.

first of all, i'm sorry to hear that you ended up with intrusive thoughts over the stories involving her. i can agree that she did not get a proper resolution to some of her pain in this game, and i can see how that would leave you feeling pretty bad if you empathized with her as a character.

there are a lot of personal feelings in krypto for me, so i do empathize with her suffering to a degree. there were also personal feelings in it for me of... i have dealt, unfortunately, with minors pushing their way into adult spaces and being awful and abusive over it, listening to no one. that was quite painful to experience... but i also recall being a minor who snuck into adult spaces as well, and being difficult and insufferable at points before i understood what kind of danger i was in and the ways i was hurting others with my engagement.

my feeling of wanting to remove her from existence was partially rooted in wishing i did not have to deal with the kinds of situations i did... both when i was a kid, and when minors forced their way into my spaces and attacked me for removing them. however, i DEFINITELY can understand how it would feel painful to see her not treated kindly in multiple routes, despite her own actions. krypto unfortunately isn't the kind of character who would be satisfied by just getting the thing she wants... she has a lot of pain that makes her have trouble caring about how she is impacting others, which can make her pushy and mean. this does not mean she does not deserve understanding, however.

she is an important character to me, and the pain they go through is something i work out and work into my stories. i have been working on stories with her for a couple of years now... and i hope it brings you any comfort to know that it does matter how she is treated, to me. i am sorry that you ended up having such a bad reaction to it, and i hope that in time you are able to dismantle those intrusive thoughts and work out that pain and receive acknowledgement for it... thank you for taking the time to write and share your feelings

cityofexilius2 years ago (2 edits)

i take most of what i said here back after reading glitchpuppet's remarks about the game in their posts on kf

sorry for uhhhh "not getting it" the first time around i suppose

eevee2 years ago

oh, thanks for the update. i'm a little curious what they said there that resonated that they didn't say here, but no need to explain if you don't want to

cityofexilius2 years ago(+1)

I can see how Krypto would be taken poorly given that I had not addressed the ways I had spoken about Marl's victims yet, but Krypto was not supposed to be based on anyone else. I actually consider Krypto an important character to me, as I put a lot of feelings into her of my own experiences of having been groomed and silenced as a teen. The way Masked Papaya treats her in the game relates to how much my inability to sympathize with my teen self led to me not sympathizing with other teens who went through my kind of experience. I do care about her as a character a lot, and I care about the kinds of experiences she goes through and represents. I want the best for her, even if this is not easily apparent or understood. I understand if this is difficult to connect to, and I don't really take offense if you don't understand. It could be that I haven't connected it well enough or explained it well enough.

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