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Greetings.

I have uploaded new versions of the menu extension and the dual wield plugin that corrects this issue.

In the case where the actor is using two exactly identical weapons, and the dev is not using independent weapons from ItemCore, there is now a special case where a temporary object is created in $dataWeapons, which is used as a placeholder for one of the weapons when these checks are being made. After the calculations are done, the fake weapon is replaced with the original, and then it is removed from the database. This corrects the display issue on the menu scene, as well as the same issue in battle during split attacks, which you didn't report, but was caused by the same root cause as the display problem.

Check them out and let me know that everything is working for you.

Noctellion2 years ago

Sorry, I must be doing something terribly wrong. The attributes still reset with or without item core and independent items. Also without the paramfix I can't get parry and expertise to show up:

Ramza2 years ago

Greetings. I cannot duplicate this problem after the update, with or without YEP_ItemCore. Although while troubleshooting it again, I found a display problem with the menu extension + extraparamformula that would've made the offhand crit and hit displays wrong.

I also have no issue with using only the menu extension to display pry and xpt.

Here's a poorly done image with mspaint to show various use-cases

The plugins are the exact same (except itemcore) as yours, in the same order, with the exception of BuffsStatesCore. In your load order, shield block should be immediately after BattleEngineCore, to prevent other plugins from interfering with the stuff it adds to the battle result, but I don't think that's causing this problem for you. Note that I don't think I ever really specified where in the load order to put ParryChance, but it should probably be above BuffsStatesCore as in my order above.

ExtraParamFormula is only using the default formulas for everything in it.

StatusCore has pry and xpt alone in the fourth column, and, as you can see, I don't have the exparamfix plugin at all.

The various snippets of the equip and parameters windows show that all four permutations of having two identical weapons equipped in various ways all correctly show the crit % for each hand as they are swapped around. The flail has +70% crit rate, and the actor has 4% base.

With ItemCore and independent weapons enabled, I was unable to duplicate this in the first place using the previous versions of the menu extension plugin. I checked again just now with itemcore turned on and got the same result as above.

I imagine, since your YEP plugin versions are about the same as mine are, that this project is quite old, it's possible there might be a problem with your core plugin files being out of date, messing with compatibility somehow.

I would suggest trying to reproduce this problem in a blank new project, with those plugins alone, and see if the problem still happens there. The last time someone reported weird problems like this with dual wield, it turned out their core files were woefully out of date, and updating them fixed the problem.

It's also possible that changes were made to some of your core plugin files, or some of the yanfly plugins you're using that are breaking compatibility with mine. Like I said, I'd start by making a fresh project, making Harold a dual wielder, and testing from there.

Noctellion2 years ago

Hey Ramza. Thanks for your patience. I started a new project from about as scratch as it gets.

Fresh MV 1.6.2 install, verified rpg_core and associated files have 1.6.2 in the header and are completely unmodified from fresh install.

Redownloaded entire fresh Yanfly Library from Itch.

Redownloaded fresh chad Ramza suite from Itch.

Started New project. Ensured the name was Project1 and had Theme6 title music, because we are sophisticated around here.

1. Parry and Expertise only show in the status menu if "Show Block Chance" is set to true.

2. If "Split Attack" is set to false then mh/oh//hit/cri and pry/xpt will not show in the status menu.

3. With the fresh install, the split crit/hit params don't revert anymore so I'll have to narrow that down myself somehow. I did notice the non-split crit param did revert though, which might be misleading for non dual wield skills.

These points, may be by design. But I feel that some projects, mine included, would prefer to pick and choose displayed stats and keep a singular Attack Parameter, or otherwise opt to not show block with the main parameters, and just keep it on the attribute/exparam page. This is also why I am personally interested in the "exparamfix DW edition", as it is much closer to my specific needs.

Thanks for your time :)

Ramza2 years ago

Thanks for the detailed report.

I was unaware you were not using the split attack parameter, so I didn't think to look into that as the cause of those problems. I'll see what I can find about the normal crit % reverting on its own too.

I'll look into changing the extension to show those params regardless of show block, or split attack being enabled. That's honestly how it should have been to begin with, and I probably bungled something up during an update a while back that no one noticed until you came along, lol.

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