NOT true it is shown and said in the real game that chara was the first human to fall in the underground he and frisk just have the same soul type DETERMINATION a lot of people tend to forget this or just plain diddnt pay close attention to the game/ its because DETERMINATION is the rarest soul type and very few humans have it that chara and frisk share a supernattural connection
Ok, first of all, I'm sorry for my rude formulation, as a not native speaker it's sometimes hard to judge how something may sound while concentrating on correct grammar. I actually meant that from my viewpoint it's the same being. Anyway:
"it is shown and said in the real game that chara was the first human to fall in the underground" right, no comment on that fact
"DETERMINATION is the rarest soul type" I don't agree on that one. Why? Well, before things in Undertale even take place 7 humans are known to be dumb enough to climb a mountain without letting anyone know about it. Each one has also a unique trait. It is NOT KNOWN, how the state of proportional distribution of human soul traits on the surface is, nobody ever tells that. BTW, I just noticed that according to your opinion, if we extrapolate the known human souls, than DT is way more often present than any other trait.
Why I think about Chisk as the same person...
What we know for sure:
Toriel dragged Chara's body into the ruins.
No matter which path we choose the protagonist has at least one Chara's flashback at the point when Falling in the waterfall.
There is absolutely no evidence, that frisk actually fell when in the moment before the game started - no images, no text, not at least a simple sound like in watefall.
In Undertale's game files the red soul is called "spr_ourheart_0".
Remember how Toby Fox twittered that we should use our own name?
What we "know" about reincarnation:
It's the state of being reborn in a new body.
After being reincarnated one has some memories from the past life.
...which basically means that in year 201X we attempted suicide, failed, then succeeded, then much later we are reborn as "Frisk".
That's TL;DR: version of my interpretation and if you find anything that disproves that theory feel free to put it out here.
Excuse all my errors, my Tablet is glitchy
Hi, i was reading both of you guys comments and I have something to add, if I may....
There is in reality no complete knowledge of the the Story of Undertale is, we are all left with so much questions such as...
Why Undyne melts in the genocide run
How sans got his powers
Who is gaster
Why Asriel is a flower, or was turned into a flower
Where did the skelebros come from
Who is the river person
We all have our theories and toby fox gives us broken sentences and leaves us to fill in the gaps ourselves, for example.. all he gave is about Gaster is, Gaster himself, is followers and core Kid.
It was us who put together, Gaster being a skelebro, or sans and papyrus' father or sans, papyrus and Gaster being one person split up into to three.
Okay am kind side tracking here but pay close attention I have something that am gonna describe which I find bery hard to explain alot of the time.
The player never knows of Frisks name until she says it, you are given the option to name the fallen child it makes you think your naming frisk... but your naming the First fallen child. I understand Frisk has flash backs but llet me tell you some of the theries I've heard.
It is asked who the Narrator is? You know the person who tell you that you feel like the scum of the earth for dropping all the monster candy. It is said that this person is chara.... i know just keep reading... bare with me. It' just a theory.
With your choices Chara is learning with you, which explain why once
you look in the mirror it says 'dispite everything its still you'and says 'still just you frisk'
It explaind that throught out the game chara is leaning from your actions. I forgot to mention how this could be possible and thats because Chara didn't completly die... her soul was absorbed remember, and nonone knows what happens to an absorbed human sould when a monster dies.
A section which proves Chara then takes over Frisks bodt is when she says 'its me Chara' and 'where are the knives' it is known that Frisk does not speak.
Just a quick point even if frisk is a reincarnation, Chara shouldn't exist at the end of the game. If Frisk is chara, because thats not how reincarnation works, the only way that'd work is if chara went to the future to meet her reincarnated self.
Anyways back to my point, sorry I keep side tracking. The narrator also knows about item that neither frisk or the other minepsters should know what it is. They talk anout journeys and evern ezpress guilt and sadness. There is so much evidnece for this theory that I can not type it all out. Butthere is a video you can watch which shows you all of the evidence, and trus tme theres alot its as if Toby put them all there on purpose. The video is 28 mins long but you can also just watch the first 2mins
now its important that i do not look as if am saying your wrong because is some ways Frisk could be chara reincarnation so i have a video for that theory too
They really explain you veiw point on how your corrèct. Altogether i just want yoi to piece these two theories together so you find what I have seen, and you find the theory which I have come up with that enties both these theories. Am tnot gonna tell you what it is because trust its best you figure it out. Plus i think all theroies are correct because they all have EVIDENCE
Ok, ok, that's a big load of information, so I'll just go trough it.
"my Tablet is glitchy" does it make it a Glitchta(b)le(t) ;-)? Ok, but now seriously.
"There is in reality no complete knowledge of the the Story of Undertale is" There is one guy who knows everything about Undertale, but I guess we can't count on him, do we?
"Why Undyne melts in the genocide run" It's because of her DETERMINATION(!!!), since monsters can't handle it well. She melts when you try to kill her in a neutral path as well.
"Why Asriel is a flower, or was turned into a flower" Go read some books. Seriously, if you take a look at the librarby's books you'll find one that explains that when dying, a monster's personality is saved in it's dust (not the most accurate explanation I'm giving here but you surely get what I mean). When Asriel came back and died his dust has been spreaded across (later) Asgore's garden. One of those flowers has been taken by Alphys during her DT experiments and so a soulles time controlling homocidial creature has been brought to "life". GG science.
"The player never knows of Frisks name until she says it" who is she? Are you implying on Frisk's gender?
"her soul" AGAIN!!!*
"Just a quick point even if frisk is a reincarnation, Chara shouldn't exist at the end of the game. If Frisk is chara, because thats not how reincarnation works, the only way that'd work is if chara went to the future to meet her reincarnated self." Erm... That... Can you please explain this? I don't understand anything.
"The narrator also knows about item that neither frisk or the other minepsters should know what it is." What is a 'minepster'?
I've seen both videos already.
Now the final question: What is it you try to tell here? I mean, you have some good points in general but what's your goal?
*Don't take me THAT serious