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Thanks - that's something I haven't hit yet. That error is the engine failing to create its main render target: it asks for an RGB10_A2 color buffer, and your browser's WebGL2 is refusing it. It's below my code, so I can't patch it directly, but I'd like to pin down which configs it hits.

If you don't mind,could you open about:support in Firefox, scroll to Graphics, and paste that block? The GPU/driver lines and whether it says WebGL2 is hardware or software is what I need. And if you get a moment(sorry for asking too much) does it start on a chromium-based browser on the same machine?

Sorry it dumped a wall of stack at you instead of saying something useful. Fixing that part is on me.

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Reverie Requiem54 days ago(+1)

Here are the requested blocks related to WebGL2 and GPU:

WebGL 2 Driver Renderer    AMD -- AMD Radeon RX 6500 XT (radeonsi, navi24, ACO, DRM 3.64, 7.1.6-arch1-1) WebGL 2 Driver Version    4.6 (Core Profile) Mesa 26.1.6-arch1.1 WebGL 2 Driver Extensions    GL_AMD_conservative_depth GL_AMD_depth_clamp_separate GL_AMD_draw_buffers_blend GL_AMD_framebuffer_multisample_advanced GL_AMD_gpu_shader_int64 GL_AMD_multi_draw_indirect GL_AMD_performance_monitor GL_AMD_pinned_memory GL_AMD_query_buffer_object GL_AMD_seamless_cubemap_per_texture GL_AMD_shader_stencil_export GL_AMD_shader_trinary_minmax GL_AMD_texture_texture4 GL_AMD_vertex_shader_layer GL_AMD_vertex_shader_viewport_index GL_ANGLE_texture_compression_dxt3 GL_ANGLE_texture_compression_dxt5 GL_ARB_ES2_compatibility GL_ARB_ES3_1_compatibility GL_ARB_ES3_2_compatibility GL_ARB_ES3_compatibility GL_ARB_arrays_of_arrays GL_ARB_base_instance GL_ARB_bindless_texture GL_ARB_blend_func_extended GL_ARB_buffer_storage GL_ARB_clear_buffer_object GL_ARB_clear_texture GL_ARB_clip_control 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WEBGL_compressed_texture_etc WEBGL_compressed_texture_s3tc WEBGL_compressed_texture_s3tc_srgb WEBGL_debug_renderer_info WEBGL_debug_shaders WEBGL_lose_context Window Protocol    x11 Desktop Environment    xfce Target Frame Rate    60 WebGPU Default Adapter    {   "navigator.gpu": null } WebGPU Fallback Adapter    {   "navigator.gpu": null } GPU #1 Active    Yes Description    AMD Radeon RX 6500 XT (radeonsi, navi24, ACO, DRM 3.64, 7.1.6-arch1-1) Vendor ID    0x1002 Device ID    0x743f Driver Vendor    mesa/radeonsi Driver Version    26.1.6.0 RAM    0

I currently haven't installed a Chromium browser and don't want to go through setting it up.

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burnt_rope53 days ago(+1)

That's perfect, thank you - and it rules out what I expected. Your driver's fine, RDNA2 on Mesa 26.1 supports everything the engine is asking for. Something more specific is going on and I better dig in and try to recreate on my end so I can troubleshoot properly. If you're still interested, I can update here when I've got more info and hopefully, a fix.

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Reverie Requiem53 days ago

Sure.

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burnt_rope53 days ago(+1)

Hi again,

As much as I want to, I just wasn't able to recreate the bug you're facing - tried both on my Linux box(arch btw) and on my steam deck - no issue on Firefox whatsoever.

While I can't hold you hostage in debugging this for me, what I did was I uploaded downloadable builds for both Win and Linux. The Linux build I've tested both as just running the executable and adding in steam as a non-steam game. I realize this may put you and other people off(myself included, not really into running random executables from the internet), but that's honestly what I can do for now.

Worth saying: the Deck runs(if I'm not terribly mistaken) the same GPU family and driver stack as your 6500 XT, so not reproducing there is a bit more meaningful than "works on my machine"; it makes me suspect something recent in Mesa rather than your card. You're on 26.1.6, which is well ahead of what SteamOS ships, so might be worth a retry after your next Mesa update.

Also: the Linux download may need a chmod +x before it'll run;

last but not least, even if you don't end up trying the game - many thanks for the provided feedback, it's all been very useful to me

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Reverie Requiem53 days ago(+1)

Huh, I wonder why my system in particular seems to be cursed. Sometimes I wonder if I should even keep reporting these crashes as most of the time it seems the dev can't replicate them and I end up throwing them into an endless pit for no reason. But it does run with the Linux executable, so I can provide proper feedback now.

Here's a snapshot of my first run stats, without looking at any part of the description, and only knowing the genre:

1. About 6 minutes, though I've never been particularly skilled in these games. A projectile from a cultist took my final 4 hp.
2. Like old single-tower defence games, but you can move, and upgrades are random. I couldn't say the premise is particularly outstanding compared to competitors in the modern 'Survivors-like' genre, but it seems playable enough for a casual project.
3. Health goes down when something hits you. Sanity goes down when you're near the enemy or when ??? Not sure why it continued to go down - maybe related to one of the cards I took that said something about sight, but it wasn't clear what that meant.

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burnt_rope53 days ago(+1)

Glad it runs, and that's a genuinely useful writeup, thank you.

On the reporting thing, since you mention it: your crash report is the reason there are downloads on the page at all. There were none before you posted, my initial take was browser build or nothing. So it didn't go into a pit. It's why you were able to check it out tonight, and why the next person whose browser chokes has somewhere to go instead of a stack trace. Worth knowing before you decide the reports aren't landing anywhere. For what it's worth, I have a similar experience in reporting bugs/issues - and if my opinion matters to you - keep doing it as long as it doesn't cost you too much energy.

You're right about the card, too. The Third Eye cuts your maximum sanity rather than draining it, and nothing on screen tells you which of those just happened - the bar gets shorter and you reasonably assume something's eating it. That's the second time a card's wording has made a mechanic look broken, so it's going on the list as a pattern rather than a one-off.

The blunt read on the premise is more useful than a polite one would have been, so thanks for that as well.

Six minutes with a cultist finishing you off is around the middle of what I've seen, for whatever that's worth, you're not the outlier you think you are.

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