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"AI art takes just as much effort"


'hey bot, generate me an image of a large chested anime woman getting railed by a giant dick.' yeah, so difficult. 

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That's not how AI art works? I mean, if you're going to complain about something you should probably understand it right? I'll give you a little crash course :D

First most devs use comfy UI, so you need to setup your own workflow and find the models that work for you. Look up some... they are HUGE, and take weeks to learn how to do propperly.

After that for a single good image you'll probably spend around an hour trying to get the tags right to get the pose and background correct for the base gen, depending how fast your GPU is. It gets ALOT harder if you have multiple character... This is without wiring in reference images, and things like that for consistency. 

Then comes the manual editing, where you take the image, find the imperfections or inconsistencies and alter them by hand, then mask and regen over the top. Repeat until the image is perfect. Then upscale or whatever else you want to do....

Overall, yes, it's a LOT faster than drawing by hand, but per image, for a good and consistent AI art you're still looking at multiple hours per image. So compared to what people used to use (koikatsu, honey select etc) it's actually a lot slower. 

I COMPLETELY understand being against AI art as an artform in media, I get it, I agree. But in eroge games? Sorry but you're just complaining about something that is no different to how it's ALWAYS been done... It's always been finding a program that lets you generate the images without needing a real artist, because there is just not enough money in the space to ever warrant it. Every dev would lose THOUSANDS.

 Even with AI art and a fairly successful game I think my hourly rate would be around $2p/h? If I'm being generous. So to me, you complaining and wanting real art for games that are releasing for free just comes across as greedy... You're shouting at people for doing the same thing that eroge games have always done for a decade, but doing it in a slightly different way.... 

Like I said in my last comment, just change genre. This space has never used real art, and probably never will, unless it suddenly blows up in popularity overnight and starts having enough people willing to pay that it even breaks even. (Not counting studios, mainly in Japan where this still CAN make actual money).

TLDR: It isn't that simple. Stop expecting people to pay thousands out their own pocket to give you something for free. This is how it's always been done, this is just a new way of doing it. Don't like it? Go somewhere else. It's not changing. Stop shouting abuse at people just trying to make a game with 0 budget that they probably wont ever even make minimum wage on.

HOW Itch haven't banned you yet is a complete mystery to me, I mean all your comments are just genuinely abusive and unconstructive. 

"Stop shouting abuse at people just trying to make a game with 0 budget that they probably wont ever even make minimum wage on."


no
also they probably haven't banned me because i speak the truth

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