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If any of you had proper reading comprehension, this would never have descended into an argument. Go ahead and read the upcoming paragraph if you’re really so very wounded and want to understand.

No one is trying to invalidate your feelings. The initial comment that I made was simply pointing out that for lots of reasons, people have an oddly charged response to having to play as a woman. This is not specific to trans men and fucking Leon Kennedy dating sims. Look all across the landscape of gaming- people historically react extremely negatively to being forced to play as a woman, in part because many people straight up believe that women don’t belong in games. I said my truth, which is that NEVER have I seen “warning- you have to play as a stinky boy in this game!!1!”So I called that out here, and clearly people agree. I see in this situation an extremely small game dev who is likely a woman herself and likely has a full time job be bombarded with people complaining that she didn’t increase her work load by also catering to men, TRAUMATIZED TRANS MEN OR NOT, it’s annoying. People don’t owe you being catered to in their small passion project.  And then the bozo with the Hikaru pfp was 10000% actually being anti-woman as fuck, didn’t take long for that to come out because that’s usually an element to this conversation regardless of what you all claim. I said what the fuck I said and I’m right, lmfao. This conversation has actually become this annoying that I’m willing to write this essay that none of you are likely to read 


editing to add: you are all completely responsible for your own triggers, and trauma dumping to strangers on the internet is cringe under any circumstances, sorry 

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read all that and chose to answer because i like to suffer, i guess. i see the point you're trying to make (clarification: with women's representation in games and the general public's reception), but i believe it had nothing to do with the original comment who started the argument OR commenter (i.e. me, hi).

The argument doesnt likely stem from a lack of reading comprehension, but rather, drawing connections where there are none.

" I said my truth, which is that NEVER have I seen “warning- you have to play as a stinky boy in this game!!1!”So I called that out here, and clearly people agree."

That's because you painted a picture of me being another misogynistc man who cannot stand a game having a female protagonist in a place that is, logically, most likely to consist of predominantly women. The narration stuck. The comment had plenty of time to fester since I never got a notification that it existed in the first place, therefore I could not immediately address it.

The fact is, my negative feelings are tied to a lack of transparency on the author's side, not to  there being female protagonist (also, where the hell did i even say "warning, you have to play as a stinky girl"??). I did made assumptions of my own (for example, that the author mightve disregarded queer people, their struggles, etc.), but i did my best not to let that seep into the original comment as it was NEVER meant for the author themself. It was a short information created with other queer people in mind so that they CAN actually look out for themselves and their traumas before diving into the game. 

Idk girl, the vibes tell me you're on the misandrist side, but what do i know. i couldn't come up with any other explanation for what i got bombarded with and some of the stuff you said

Wrote this on my phone at 5 AM and off my adhd meds, but i tried to make this reply orderly.  havent read what this hikaru said or how your talk went with them either, felt lazy. English isn't my native language, but hopefully my point(s) came through this time 

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My original comment wasn’t even really criticism of your original comment. I do see that the dev of this game doesn’t have in the game description that the only option is a female mc, so I can agree that ONE polite comment letting prospective players know about that would be justified. But there are a shit ton of comments on this game that are actively whining about it as if it’s something you are all owed, and my point stands regardless that when the roles are reversed, women don’t bombard small developers about how you can’t play as a girl. That was literally all that I was ever trying to say. Everyone else decided to make this into the trauma Olympics. 

As for calling me a misandrist, that is both incredibly tone deaf and also just kind of hilariously stupid. Do you also like telling people of color that they’re being reverse-racist against white people when they speak of racism?  Because that’s the vibe you’re giving by telling a woman who’s critiquing misogyny that she seems misandrist, lol. 

I also want to point out that your self admitted issue of assuming “that the author mightve disregarded queer people, their struggles, etc.)“ just because a game is made by women & for women, is very wrong and self-victimizing. There is a serious trend of self-victimization with all of you in this comment section. Not everything on planet earth needs to cater to men- straight men OR gay men, cis men OR trans men, etc. Men in general. You saying that really does hammer home my exact point. Something isn’t for you, it’s for women, so you all start frothing at the mouth with complaints and now calling me misandrist for defending it. I can’t even take you seriously.

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Okay, and I left *one* polite comment for other folks since I did not find any relevant info on the page, assumed MC is gender-neutral and then had the disappointment of my life. 

It wasn't worded as "warning- you have to play as a stinky girl in this game!!1!", as you described it in your previous response (my personal assumptions on the author didn't even take shape until I read their response, which happened 2 months later btw). Twisting that into an anti-women narrative, then turning it into an example of people who actually are disgusted by women, IS borderline offensive. Never called you a misandrist, just said you give me the vibes cuz 1. you keep addressing me as a concept, in plural, rather than a singular person and 2. you judge me based on a prejudice AAAND 3. you keep slandering me??

To put it simply: i have no issue with you raising a point and discussing it, but not at my cost. Like you literally just keep adding your own things and saying "those are your thoughts", like here:
"I also want to point out that your self admitted issue of assuming “that the author mightve disregarded queer people, their struggles, etc.)“ just because a game is made by women & for women, is very wrong and self-victimizing." 
GIRL NO? i have no issue with the game?? how many times do i have to repeat it?
im getting a headache from this

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my whole point is you all could have fucking checked the comments and seen that there are already fifty of you in here bitching and moaning and no one needs more of your complaints. You all have WAY too much self importance, it’s weird and anti-social. I just woke up and skimmed your comment and clearly this conversation isn’t going to go anywhere, I’m “SLANDERING” you? Holy shit lololol. I’m sitting here listening to the droning on of whiny ass teenager-brained ftm’s who have zero desire to think outside of your little woe-is-me bubble and I’m done with all of y’all’s self victimization, it’s seriously like talking to actual children. Just cry yourselves to sleep eternally over having to play as a girl in this Leon Kennedy dating simulator, which is made for women, and enjoy the rest of your miserable lives

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damn, what a crash out. glad to say bye

yep because you people are braindead. stay out of women’s spaces now! thanks!!

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you can say you're not a radfem terf but you're definitely a radfem terf 

I am not going to take this even remotely seriously seeing as i've 1) been out and in queer spaces for like 10yrs now and 2) have had romantic, familial, and platonic relationships with trans ppl, and somehow, magically,  have never gotten this feedback other than now from a bunch of whiny little fucks in the comments of a fucking leon kennedy dating simulator bc i'm speaking about womens issues. I think you just don't like women saying shit that you don't like and not backing down when you all melt down and cry :) I have not said shit here that's transphobic but idrc so enjoy your headcanons

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