> Than why have that disclaimer if you're not worried about the wrong crowd using your games to get their rocks off?
Disclaimers are so that people who would have the mood ruined by this stuff, don't try to get their rocks off and then encounter something that ruins their mood.
Assuming they aren't underage (or in a mental state where playing this game can be psychologically damaging), if someone can get their rocks off to this game, then they are - by definition - not part of 'the wrong crowd'. If they are in a mental state where playing this game would be damaging to their mental health, then they should have paid attention to the warning.
> Even if the game isn't creating problimatic people and attitudes, it's still beyond insensitive and insulting to the trans experience, mine included.
This is why the disclaimer exists. If you find it insulting, you can simply not look at it.
> And if you value consent so much, why do you lust after forced stuff?
Have you ever encountered a mean person in real life, and really really wanted to just punch them in the face?
Have you ever played an action game where you had a character that could destroy swarms of enemies with magic powers or weapons of some sort?
Would you consider people who do play such games as 'lusting after violence'?
Fantasy is separate from reality. You can fantasize about punching mean morons, and about blasting hoards of demonic aliens with plasma guns, while also thinking that it would be horrible for people to be allowed to assault each other just for being mean (imagine if 'they were mean to me' could be said in court to have charges dropped against you; now imagine what people could do to you if they knew such a thing worked), and also thinking it would be horrible for alien demons to actually invade reality, and that such extreme weapons should not be created because realistically they'd be created to be used against other human people.
In a game, you can always stop playing if something happens you don't consent to. You consented to playing the game, because if you didn't then you would not be playing the game. If someone is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to play the game, that is not the game's fault. That is the fault of the person holding a gun to your head to force you to play it.
> So apologies if I don't buy your "we're sorry you feel that way" and quite frankly, it's a bit insulting.
If you find that insulting, that says a lot more about you than it does about them.
> That's just sick in my opinion, we should all be in this together but your stance, let's be real here, is offputting to most non-cisgendered people, don't sugarcoat it.
Do you know what's sick? Trying to change art you don't like so that bigots who will hate the art no matter how it's changed will hate it slightly less, or have a slightly harder time using it as propaganda against LGBTQ+ people. In reality, they will treat anything with any relation to LGBTQ+ people as something to destroy.
It's sick because it acts like a sickness, a disease, within the community. It spreads a chilling effect, where people become afraid to express themselves freely. It encourages division within the community, and tears us apart from within.
We are all in this together, except for those of us who want to use our differences against us to divide us. Those that want to make us afraid to express our weird kinky selves, and instead feel compelled to look upstanding and non-problematic and thus marketable to a wider audience.
Such behavior does not make us stronger. It makes us weaker. It makes us more prone to being censored and marked as outcast freaks who shouldn't be allowed in the rest of society, because it drives us apart from each other.
We need to embrace our differences, celebrate them even, not try to stamp out anything that mainstream audiences would be uncomfortable with.
> One last question: when people not in this community see mediums like this, and look at the kinds of people into these kinds of games, don't you think they're going to think that this is all just a sexual fetishes and that trans people are all just weirdos and are "asking to get degraded?" Fuel to the fire as they say?
They already think this. They'd think this whether or not this game existed, or any other game like it. Hell, if we go back in time and we make it so that history is mostly the same, but somehow porn itself never existed and thus trans porn never existed, and trans people were exactly as SFW as cis people... Bigots against trans people would still think this about trans and non-binary people.
Sure, many of them will use games like this as 'proof' of their bullshit claims, but these games were never the reason why they believed such things to begin with. They found these games as a result of looking for evidence of their already-formed beliefs. If these games didn't exist, and porn didn't exist, and they had no proof? They would still believe what they do, and they would just find something else to use for 'proof'.
I already gave a more comprehensive example of this in one of my other replies to you.
> I eagerly await your response, if there is any.
They never needed to respond to you to begin with. They have no obligation to explain themselves to you.
In fact, the primary reason why I've responded to you, is that this is a topic that is dearly important to me. I'm actually pissed off at some of the replies you've gotten that claim there are 'more important issues in the world', when censorship of art is one of the most (though definitely not the most) important issues on the planet right now. I'd say it's definitely in the top 100 most horrific evils in modern times.
And you are perpetuating it. You are perpetuating horrific evil, and I happen to have a wide range of arguments against this particular form of evil.
There may be plenty of other commenters replying to you to defend this game, but you are one of the only ones who seems to be tirelessly replying to everyone. That puts them at a major disadvantage, but it also means that you put at least enough thought into your responses that you have to actually consider the arguments being made.
Even if your counter-arguments are often contradicting each other and it's very likely you are arguing in bad faith and have no intention of ever having your mind changed, your willingness to debate raises the chances that you are just severely misguided quite a bit.
So here I am, also willing to debate, despite how evil you appear to be to me.